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Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 12:20:24 AM)
Shocking to me: #Vikings OL ranked by PFF 1. Riley Reiff 2. Brian O’Neill 3. Pat Elflein 4. Josh Kline 5. Garrett Bradbury (Purple Post on Twitter)

jbusse -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 7:09:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson Shocking to me: #Vikings OL ranked by PFF 1. Riley Reiff 2. Brian O’Neill 3. Pat Elflein 4. Josh Kline 5. Garrett Bradbury (Purple Post on Twitter) I guess Reiff draws the tougher end on average compared to O'Neill. Elflein blocks downfield better than Klein -- suggests a big weight on that aspect. No surprise on Bradbury, who has simply been over-matched most of the year.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 7:40:31 AM)
A little rumor going around about Zimmer to Dallas, if Stefanski goes to Cleveland....you bring back Shurmur to run everything? #MinnesotaVikings #NFL Mike Zimmer to the Cowboys trade?! National heads are speculating... [Purple Daily]

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 8:00:09 AM)
The Vikings allowed only one TD to opposing tight ends this year. (Best in NFL)

bohumm -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 9:39:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson The Vikings allowed only one TD to opposing tight ends this year. (Best in NFL) 18 TDs given up to WRs (tied for 8th worst) 4 TDs given up to RBs (tied for 8th worst)

SteveR -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 9:40:36 AM)
An upset Sunday would be an incredible feat. Brees should have no real issue with our secondary. If they stop Hunter, he should be pretty comfortable. Saints will aim to overwhelm our OL and make our offense stagnate. I'm expecting a three-score loss. Only variable to change things is turnovers. If we get a bunch of them and points off them, then we have chance.

drviking -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 9:52:02 AM)
Ramblings... I would be willing to listen to a trade for Zim, I think he is a very good DC and an average HC. Unfortunately, we could have a lot worse HC than Zim, and we may just get it. But good is the enemy of great I feel we are maxed out with Zim at the helm...we will be ok to good every year, but not serious SB contenders, SB is all I care about nowadays, for better or worse. Maybe Zim goes Dallas, they trade/not resign Dak and bring in Teddy at a much more reasonable contract. that would be something. Teddy/good Oline/Zeke and a Zim D....interesting, i guess its not likely we go into NO and win, but we have a punchers chance...you never know I think we got the best out of Cousins that we can, and if you cant win with that, its time to change something, maybe the QB, maybe the coach, maybe the entire thing... cant give Cook a huge contract, it will be interesting to see how next season goes, a holdout seems very possible i think Theilen's best years are gone, he should be quite effective for a long time as a savy vet, but wont scare defenses anymore, might need to look at his contract I didnt see Rudy's second half coming....tip of the hat, sir Elflein has not been terrible in the second half, not great either, IMO Colquitt might have been our best signing this offseason not sold on the LS, he seems pretty inconsistent

drviking -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 9:53:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SteveR An upset Sunday would be an incredible feat. Brees should have no real issue with our secondary. If they stop Hunter, he should be pretty comfortable. Saints will aim to overwhelm our OL and make our offense stagnate. I'm expecting a three-score loss. Only variable to change things is turnovers. If we get a bunch of them and points off them, then we have chance. Brees is very good at getting the ball out quick, I predict many people will be screaming about how we are getting no pressure on Brees all day very surprised if we have more than one legit sack

Lars -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 10:07:38 AM)
Playing on the road is always tough - and even more so in the playoffs. A win this weekend would be a nice upset! I was torn about playing starters last week. But what we ended up with was essentially a mini bye week. Some guys have been resting for several weeks now. I actually think that helps these guys. I agree with others assessments that NO will bring lots of pressure on our OL and Cousins. I hope we have a nice section in the playbook for TE screens and quick slants to counter that. With all of that traffic at the LOS, we may need to pass to set up the run. The OL is going to need to play its best game of the year. They played like crap against GB, so here's hoping they play strong. It may be hard to sack Brees, but the DL need to remember to stay disciplined and get their hands up if the rush doesn't get there. There will be opportunities for batted passes, including on bootlegs. Remember, Brees is not tall. Zimmer is great at defense. Let's see some new coverage schemes on Thomas at a few key points in the game. As others have said, a couple of turnovers would go a along way to giving us a win here. The pass defense - especially the secondary - has been a bit maligned this year. Maybe they have just been waiting for this moment to really shine.... MN is as good a team as NO. They are. NO has the advantage since it is at their place. But MN could roll in there with some swagger, play smart and tough, and get out of there with a win.

Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 10:09:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bohumm quote: ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson The Vikings allowed only one TD to opposing tight ends this year. (Best in NFL) 18 TDs given up to WRs (tied for 8th worst) 4 TDs given up to RBs (tied for 8th worst) According to this web page, the Vikings gave up 8 TD's to the running backs by rushing in addition to the four by receiving. It doesn't seem too bad for me. https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/stats/posvsdef/RB/MIN/teambreakdown/standard

drviking -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 10:11:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lars Playing on the road is always tough - and even more so in the playoffs. A win this weekend would be a nice upset! I was torn about playing starters last week. But what we ended up with was essentially a mini bye week. Some guys have been resting for several weeks now. I actually think that helps these guys. I agree with others assessments that NO will bring lots of pressure on our OL and Cousins. I hope we have a nice section in the playbook for TE screens and quick slants to counter that. With all of that traffic at the LOS, we may need to pass to set up the run. The OL is going to need to play its best game of the year. They played like crap against GB, so here's hoping they play strong. It may be hard to sack Brees, but the DL need to remember to stay disciplined and get their hands up if the rush doesn't get there. There will be opportunities for batted passes, including on bootlegs. Remember, Brees is not tall. Zimmer is great at defense. Let's see some new coverage schemes on Thomas at a few key points in the game. As others have said, a couple of turnovers would go a along way to giving us a win here. The pass defense - especially the secondary - has been a bit maligned this year. Maybe they have just been waiting for this moment to really shine.... MN is as good a team as NO. They are. NO has the advantage since it is at their place. But MN could roll in there with some swagger, play smart and tough, and get out of there with a win. agree with the rest week we needed some rest, and it was extremely unlikely (impossible?) that we would get a playoff bye also, improves our draft position IF we play our best game in all 3 phases, we can beat anyone, IMO....will we?

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 10:53:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: drviking quote: ORIGINAL: Lars Playing on the road is always tough - and even more so in the playoffs. A win this weekend would be a nice upset! I was torn about playing starters last week. But what we ended up with was essentially a mini bye week. Some guys have been resting for several weeks now. I actually think that helps these guys. I agree with others assessments that NO will bring lots of pressure on our OL and Cousins. I hope we have a nice section in the playbook for TE screens and quick slants to counter that. With all of that traffic at the LOS, we may need to pass to set up the run. The OL is going to need to play its best game of the year. They played like crap against GB, so here's hoping they play strong. It may be hard to sack Brees, but the DL need to remember to stay disciplined and get their hands up if the rush doesn't get there. There will be opportunities for batted passes, including on bootlegs. Remember, Brees is not tall. Zimmer is great at defense. Let's see some new coverage schemes on Thomas at a few key points in the game. As others have said, a couple of turnovers would go a along way to giving us a win here. The pass defense - especially the secondary - has been a bit maligned this year. Maybe they have just been waiting for this moment to really shine.... MN is as good a team as NO. They are. NO has the advantage since it is at their place. But MN could roll in there with some swagger, play smart and tough, and get out of there with a win. agree with the rest week we needed some rest, and it was extremely unlikely (impossible?) that we would get a playoff bye also, improves our draft position IF we play our best game in all 3 phases, we can beat anyone, IMO....will we? The draft position is not determined by records for playoff teams.

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 10:57:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer A little rumor going around about Zimmer to Dallas, if Stefanski goes to Cleveland....you bring back Shurmur to run everything? #MinnesotaVikings #NFL Mike Zimmer to the Cowboys trade?! National heads are speculating... [Purple Daily] Coach Charlie Weiss was talking about coaching rumors this morning on NFL radio. He says that if you hear the rumors about a coach going somewhere then there's definitely some substance to it. He says that's not to say it will happen for sure. He said in all his years in and around the NFL he's never known for there to be a false rumor when it comes to coaches and jobs. He says coaches are talking to teams all the time and the public won't hear a rumor about dang near all of them - because none of them are seriously being considered. But when you hear a rumor about a coach going somewhere - rest assured there's some legitimacy to it.

jbusse -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 11:14:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SteveR An upset Sunday would be an incredible feat. Brees should have no real issue with our secondary. If they stop Hunter, he should be pretty comfortable. Saints will aim to overwhelm our OL and make our offense stagnate. I'm expecting a three-score loss. Only variable to change things is turnovers. If we get a bunch of them and points off them, then we have chance. Pretty much the opposite of 2009. If we hadn't turned the ball over a bunch, we would have won by three scores. Like 2009, I wouldn't expect any help from the referees in this one.

Pager -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 11:46:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: drviking Ramblings... I would be willing to listen to a trade for Zim, I think he is a very good DC and an average HC. Unfortunately, we could have a lot worse HC than Zim, and we may just get it. But good is the enemy of great I feel we are maxed out with Zim at the helm...we will be ok to good every year, but not serious SB contenders, SB is all I care about nowadays, for better or worse. Maybe Zim goes Dallas, they trade/not resign Dak and bring in Teddy at a much more reasonable contract. that would be something. Teddy/good Oline/Zeke and a Zim D....interesting, i guess its not likely we go into NO and win, but we have a punchers chance...you never know I think we got the best out of Cousins that we can, and if you cant win with that, its time to change something, maybe the QB, maybe the coach, maybe the entire thing... cant give Cook a huge contract, it will be interesting to see how next season goes, a holdout seems very possible i think Theilen's best years are gone, he should be quite effective for a long time as a savy vet, but wont scare defenses anymore, might need to look at his contract I didnt see Rudy's second half coming....tip of the hat, sir Elflein has not been terrible in the second half, not great either, IMO Colquitt might have been our best signing this offseason not sold on the LS, he seems pretty inconsistent I agree on a lot of points. I would like to see this team with some continuity on the offense with OC & QB. I think Stef can improve (he dropped some duds) and I think Cousins can as well (he's looked better -not great- at off schedule plays). Another year of coaching and investment in the offensive line, a legit 3rd WR and I think this could be a special offense. I also think Zimmer has young talent in Hill, Hughes, even Boyd. And Watts. I think he can retool the defense on the fly. Only HUGE need is a 3T that can get pressure. I'm on the fence. We no show on Sunday and my opinion might change.

bohumm -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 12:24:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pager quote: ORIGINAL: drviking Ramblings... I would be willing to listen to a trade for Zim, I think he is a very good DC and an average HC. Unfortunately, we could have a lot worse HC than Zim, and we may just get it. But good is the enemy of great I feel we are maxed out with Zim at the helm...we will be ok to good every year, but not serious SB contenders, SB is all I care about nowadays, for better or worse. Maybe Zim goes Dallas, they trade/not resign Dak and bring in Teddy at a much more reasonable contract. that would be something. Teddy/good Oline/Zeke and a Zim D....interesting, i guess its not likely we go into NO and win, but we have a punchers chance...you never know I think we got the best out of Cousins that we can, and if you cant win with that, its time to change something, maybe the QB, maybe the coach, maybe the entire thing... cant give Cook a huge contract, it will be interesting to see how next season goes, a holdout seems very possible i think Theilen's best years are gone, he should be quite effective for a long time as a savy vet, but wont scare defenses anymore, might need to look at his contract I didnt see Rudy's second half coming....tip of the hat, sir Elflein has not been terrible in the second half, not great either, IMO Colquitt might have been our best signing this offseason not sold on the LS, he seems pretty inconsistent I agree on a lot of points. I would like to see this team with some continuity on the offense with OC & QB. I think Stef can improve (he dropped some duds) and I think Cousins can as well (he's looked better -not great- at off schedule plays). Another year of coaching and investment in the offensive line, a legit 3rd WR and I think this could be a special offense. I also think Zimmer has young talent in Hill, Hughes, even Boyd. And Watts. I think he can retool the defense on the fly. Only HUGE need is a 3T that can get pressure. I'm on the fence. We no show on Sunday and my opinion might change. I think this is a legit upside take, though there is a downside take that's at least equally likely. Also, we can't count on Hill; keep him, support him, develop him, but he's dramatically more likely to be Josh Gordon than Cris Carter (as is anyone in his situation).

Trekgeekscott -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 12:36:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer A little rumor going around about Zimmer to Dallas, if Stefanski goes to Cleveland....you bring back Shurmur to run everything? #MinnesotaVikings #NFL Mike Zimmer to the Cowboys trade?! National heads are speculating... [Purple Daily] Shurmer has HC'd in two different places and failed miserably in both. Granted one was Cleveland, and the other is a Giants team with some total moron running the team. But still. He managed to suck donkey balls in two chances. NO THANKS. I don't want to revert to shit. If Zimmer goes, open up the vault and pry Jim Harbaugh loose from Michigan.

Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 12:40:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: drviking Ramblings... I would be willing to listen to a trade for Zim, I think he is a very good DC and an average HC. Unfortunately, we could have a lot worse HC than Zim, and we may just get it. But good is the enemy of great I feel we are maxed out with Zim at the helm...we will be ok to good every year, but not serious SB contenders, SB is all I care about nowadays, for better or worse. Maybe Zim goes Dallas, they trade/not resign Dak and bring in Teddy at a much more reasonable contract. that would be something. Teddy/good Oline/Zeke and a Zim D....interesting, i guess its not likely we go into NO and win, but we have a punchers chance...you never know I think we got the best out of Cousins that we can, and if you cant win with that, its time to change something, maybe the QB, maybe the coach, maybe the entire thing... cant give Cook a huge contract, it will be interesting to see how next season goes, a holdout seems very possible i think Theilen's best years are gone, he should be quite effective for a long time as a savy vet, but wont scare defenses anymore, might need to look at his contract I didnt see Rudy's second half coming....tip of the hat, sir Elflein has not been terrible in the second half, not great either, IMO Colquitt might have been our best signing this offseason not sold on the LS, he seems pretty inconsistent Really? I can't remember one snap that was bad. He's probably a part of why Bailey has turned it around.

Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 12:42:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer A little rumor going around about Zimmer to Dallas, if Stefanski goes to Cleveland....you bring back Shurmur to run everything? #MinnesotaVikings #NFL Mike Zimmer to the Cowboys trade?! National heads are speculating... [Purple Daily] Shurmer has HC'd in two different places and failed miserably in both. Granted one was Cleveland, and the other is a Giants team with some total moron running the team. But still. He managed to suck donkey balls in two chances. NO THANKS. I don't want to revert to shit. If Zimmer goes, open up the vault and pry Jim Harbaugh loose from Michigan. Look at what he has done with unlimited resources at Michigan. Same as Zimmer. Good, not great.

Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 12:43:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pager quote: ORIGINAL: drviking Ramblings... I would be willing to listen to a trade for Zim, I think he is a very good DC and an average HC. Unfortunately, we could have a lot worse HC than Zim, and we may just get it. But good is the enemy of great I feel we are maxed out with Zim at the helm...we will be ok to good every year, but not serious SB contenders, SB is all I care about nowadays, for better or worse. Maybe Zim goes Dallas, they trade/not resign Dak and bring in Teddy at a much more reasonable contract. that would be something. Teddy/good Oline/Zeke and a Zim D....interesting, i guess its not likely we go into NO and win, but we have a punchers chance...you never know I think we got the best out of Cousins that we can, and if you cant win with that, its time to change something, maybe the QB, maybe the coach, maybe the entire thing... cant give Cook a huge contract, it will be interesting to see how next season goes, a holdout seems very possible i think Theilen's best years are gone, he should be quite effective for a long time as a savy vet, but wont scare defenses anymore, might need to look at his contract I didnt see Rudy's second half coming....tip of the hat, sir Elflein has not been terrible in the second half, not great either, IMO Colquitt might have been our best signing this offseason not sold on the LS, he seems pretty inconsistent I agree on a lot of points. I would like to see this team with some continuity on the offense with OC & QB. I think Stef can improve (he dropped some duds) and I think Cousins can as well (he's looked better -not great- at off schedule plays). Another year of coaching and investment in the offensive line, a legit 3rd WR and I think this could be a special offense. I also think Zimmer has young talent in Hill, Hughes, even Boyd. And Watts. I think he can retool the defense on the fly. Only HUGE need is a 3T that can get pressure. I'm on the fence. We no show on Sunday and my opinion might change. Watts could be that guy. And Hercules could put on some pounds.

Pager -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 12:47:21 PM)
Kendricks was the only Vikings to make All Pro list (1st team). Helluva season.

Trekgeekscott -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 12:52:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer A little rumor going around about Zimmer to Dallas, if Stefanski goes to Cleveland....you bring back Shurmur to run everything? #MinnesotaVikings #NFL Mike Zimmer to the Cowboys trade?! National heads are speculating... [Purple Daily] Shurmer has HC'd in two different places and failed miserably in both. Granted one was Cleveland, and the other is a Giants team with some total moron running the team. But still. He managed to suck donkey balls in two chances. NO THANKS. I don't want to revert to shit. If Zimmer goes, open up the vault and pry Jim Harbaugh loose from Michigan. Look at what he has done with unlimited resources at Michigan. Same as Zimmer. Good, not great. He has coached a team IN THE NFL to a Superbowl...and lost, barely, to his brother, with Colin Kaepernick at QB. College and the pros are two different animals. When he left SF, they went in the toilet. It took years to get them back to contention.

Pager -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 12:55:58 PM)
https://www.vikings.com/news/minnesota-vikings-new-orleans-saints-2019-wild-card-playoffs-injury-report Hughes on IR. Mac out. Sorry if this was already shared. Kendricks to play. Huge to have Kendricks back. Hughes hasn't played great but he's our best slot option after Mac. Kearse will probably have a pretty big role.

Pager -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 12:57:01 PM)
Ifeadi listed as questionable. Underrated blow if he can't play.

Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/3/2020 1:07:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Pager https://www.vikings.com/news/minnesota-vikings-new-orleans-saints-2019-wild-card-playoffs-injury-report Hughes on IR. Mac out. Sorry if this was already shared. Kendricks to play. Huge to have Kendricks back. Hughes hasn't played great but he's our best slot option after Mac. Kearse will probably have a pretty big role. It really hurts because it means more Rhodes.

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