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ORIGINAL: Viking Rich

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

O'Brien stats. Impressive.

https://twitter.com/Krauserrific/status/1183762455987511297?s=09

He's been a total stud.

I do get a little nervous when people talk about him moving to LT though.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember Hill starting off as playing LT after we acquired him from Jacksonville. He seemed to be a pretty good pickup at the time.

Then he got moved to RT, and has been bad.

But after seeing him play pretty decent replacing Reif when he was injured, has me thinking that the Vikings may be playing him out of his natural position.

It wouldn't be the first time they've screwed up an OLineman moving them around to different spots where they're not as effective.

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

When we're in 21 personnel I'm assuming Ham is on the field most if not all the time.

I've been thinking I'd like to see some 21 personnel with Cook and Mattison on the field. You will likely have 3 LB's on the field with that alignment. I'd then motion one or both of them out of the back field and make the LB's cover them. Could create some great mismatches.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

The Athletic:

The Vikings’ use of 21 personnel

The Vikings were in 21 personnel (two running backs, one tight end, two wide receivers) on 18 snaps against the Eagles. They rushed seven times for 57 yards (8.14 YPC) out of that grouping and completed 9 of 11 passes for 186 yards. Overall, the Vikings averaged 13.50 yards per play out of 21 personnel in their 38-20 win. That’s the second-highest average of any team (minimum 10 plays) in one personnel grouping this season.

Minnesota offensive coordinator Kevin Stefanski and adviser Gary Kubiak deserve a ton of credit. They had the Eagles’ defense off-balance all game long. They’re operating under a head coach who wants to run the ball. But they knew that the Eagles were vulnerable vs. the pass, and they adjusted. They kept the Eagles in their base defense and ran play-action all game long.

Kirk Cousins completed 22 of 29 passes for 333 yards and four touchdowns. Next Gen Stats tracks a metric called completion percentage above expectation. It measures the probability of a completion on every throw based on where the receiver is, his separation from the nearest defender and how close the pass rush is to the quarterback. Cousins’ expected completion percentage was 61.3%. His actual completion percentage was 75.9%. That difference of plus-14.5% was the best for any QB in Week 6. Yes, they had receivers wide open on a bunch of plays. But Cousins also made some difficult throws. The result was a 38-point outburst for Minnesota.

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

When we're in 21 personnel I'm assuming Ham is on the field most if not all the time.

I've been thinking I'd like to see some 21 personnel with Cook and Mattison on the field. You will likely have 3 LB's on the field with that alignment. I'd then motion one or both of them out of the back field and make the LB's cover them. Could create some great mismatches.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

The Athletic:

The Vikings’ use of 21 personnel

The Vikings were in 21 personnel (two running backs, one tight end, two wide receivers) on 18 snaps against the Eagles. They rushed seven times for 57 yards (8.14 YPC) out of that grouping and completed 9 of 11 passes for 186 yards. Overall, the Vikings averaged 13.50 yards per play out of 21 personnel in their 38-20 win. That’s the second-highest average of any team (minimum 10 plays) in one personnel grouping this season.

Minnesota offensive coordinator Kevin Stefanski and adviser Gary Kubiak deserve a ton of credit. They had the Eagles’ defense off-balance all game long. They’re operating under a head coach who wants to run the ball. But they knew that the Eagles were vulnerable vs. the pass, and they adjusted. They kept the Eagles in their base defense and ran play-action all game long.

Kirk Cousins completed 22 of 29 passes for 333 yards and four touchdowns. Next Gen Stats tracks a metric called completion percentage above expectation. It measures the probability of a completion on every throw based on where the receiver is, his separation from the nearest defender and how close the pass rush is to the quarterback. Cousins’ expected completion percentage was 61.3%. His actual completion percentage was 75.9%. That difference of plus-14.5% was the best for any QB in Week 6. Yes, they had receivers wide open on a bunch of plays. But Cousins also made some difficult throws. The result was a 38-point outburst for Minnesota.

completion percentage above expectation?

Who the holy handgrenade sets that expectation?

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ORIGINAL: marty

Bstinger

I think you make a good point. And Cook is great after the catch, and Mattison seemed really smooth on screens in college.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

When we're in 21 personnel I'm assuming Ham is on the field most if not all the time.

I've been thinking I'd like to see some 21 personnel with Cook and Mattison on the field. You will likely have 3 LB's on the field with that alignment. I'd then motion one or both of them out of the back field and make the LB's cover them. Could create some great mismatches.

Out of 70 offensive snaps Cook saw 44, Ham saw 34, and Mattison saw 21. Ham is on the field a lot.

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

When we're in 21 personnel I'm assuming Ham is on the field most if not all the time.

I've been thinking I'd like to see some 21 personnel with Cook and Mattison on the field. You will likely have 3 LB's on the field with that alignment. I'd then motion one or both of them out of the back field and make the LB's cover them. Could create some great mismatches.

Out of 70 offensive snaps Cook saw 44, Ham saw 34, and Mattison saw 21. Ham is on the field a lot.

Ham is on the 53 because he’s a better blocker...if blasingame develops his blocking skills he could give us a serious downfield mismatch problem next season...another legitimate weapon...we should be careful not to let another team poach him at the end of this season....

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

The Athletic:

The Vikings’ use of 21 personnel

The Vikings were in 21 personnel (two running backs, one tight end, two wide receivers) on 18 snaps against the Eagles. They rushed seven times for 57 yards (8.14 YPC) out of that grouping and completed 9 of 11 passes for 186 yards. Overall, the Vikings averaged 13.50 yards per play out of 21 personnel in their 38-20 win. That’s the second-highest average of any team (minimum 10 plays) in one personnel grouping this season.

Minnesota offensive coordinator Kevin Stefanski and adviser Gary Kubiak deserve a ton of credit. They had the Eagles’ defense off-balance all game long. They’re operating under a head coach who wants to run the ball. But they knew that the Eagles were vulnerable vs. the pass, and they adjusted. They kept the Eagles in their base defense and ran play-action all game long.

Kirk Cousins completed 22 of 29 passes for 333 yards and four touchdowns. Next Gen Stats tracks a metric called completion percentage above expectation. It measures the probability of a completion on every throw based on where the receiver is, his separation from the nearest defender and how close the pass rush is to the quarterback. Cousins’ expected completion percentage was 61.3%. His actual completion percentage was 75.9%. That difference of plus-14.5% was the best for any QB in Week 6. Yes, they had receivers wide open on a bunch of plays. But Cousins also made some difficult throws. The result was a 38-point outburst for Minnesota.

completion percentage above expectation?

Who the holy handgrenade sets that expectation?

People who crunch every play of every game and collaborate with others who crunch every play of every game for hours and hours per day because it's their actual job.

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ORIGINAL: jbusse

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

When we're in 21 personnel I'm assuming Ham is on the field most if not all the time.

I've been thinking I'd like to see some 21 personnel with Cook and Mattison on the field. You will likely have 3 LB's on the field with that alignment. I'd then motion one or both of them out of the back field and make the LB's cover them. Could create some great mismatches.

Out of 70 offensive snaps Cook saw 44, Ham saw 34, and Mattison saw 21. Ham is on the field a lot.

Ham is on the 53 because he’s a better blocker...if blasingame develops his blocking skills he could give us a serious downfield mismatch problem next season...another legitimate weapon...we should be careful not to let another team poach him at the end of this season....

Worrying about that is what keeps Bruce Johnson awake at night.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Per http://NFLPenalties.com, Green Bay leads the NFL in “beneficiary yards” this season, which is when a team’s opponent is called for a penalty.

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Per http://NFLPenalties.com, Green Bay leads the NFL in “beneficiary yards” this season, which is when a team’s opponent is called for a penalty.

The Packers have accrued 501 yards through penalties.

Detroit, on the other hand, is dead last with 234 yards.

(Sean Borman on Twitter)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Per http://NFLPenalties.com, Green Bay leads the NFL in “beneficiary yards” this season, which is when a team’s opponent is called for a penalty.

I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner
Hi Terry, always good to see that you are still paying attention to the board and to have your commenting again would be even better.

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Bradbury holding up one on one vs. Fletcher Cox on this successful third down play. Our shiny new center really starting to figure things out.

https://twitter.com/NickOlsonNFL/status/1183793855616954369?s=20

Really good view of an offensive line playing in sync. Every one of them has a great set and the footwork of Hill and O'Neil is perfect. Hill really filled in admirably when called on this weekend, he went in a couple of times to spell Reiff, not sure what happened to Reiff, but he got dinged up early, like the third play from scrimmage, so Hill played a bunch.

Elf also blocks very well on this clip. I wanted to point that out, because after watching the game, I thought Elf might have had his best performance in a couple of years, so that's a good thing. He still made mistakes, every Oline guy will, it's just the nature of the beast, but he played better on a number of reps and that's good. It might be just a coincidence, but Bradbury also had a solid game, so this may just be these guys figuring it out in real time. It's one thing to do it in practice, but completely another to do it in live action. Looking better, gotta like that.

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ORIGINAL: Terry Stoneberg

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ORIGINAL: Dana Turner
Hi Terry, always good to see that you are still paying attention to the board and to have your commenting again would be even better.

Thanks Dana,

I turned 70 earlier this year so I've cut back to only 3 simultaneous jobs (from the 4 I had when I was younger...one year when I was 24, I had 6 if you count the summer jobs a teacher can take on when school is out..phew!!). All in all, at this point in time, I generally can keep up with almost all of the posts here. But most of the time when I do have something profitable to say, I find someone else has already said it.

It's a great board with very knowledgeable passionate fans, that I love to read. I will promise to chip in more if I have something to say that is worth hearing.

Speaking of which, I watched the Lions Packers game. Wow. Of all the years of bad Packer slanted officiating I've seen over the years, that game was by far the worst. Booger McFarland as color man went on and on about how outrageous it was, especially the two hands to the face calls, of which we had multiple views from multiple angles that showed clearly how bad the calls were. It was particularly bad because both were late in the game and under circumstances that very likely would have resulted in a Lions win.

I'll not be surprised if Booger gets censured by the NFL. Because this game had to be very bad for the NFL product as a whole in this country. Without his commentary I think many folks would not have caught it. Now the all who saw it know that the game can often be very unfair.

I'm glad I'm not a Lions fan.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Last night must have been obvious, ESPN did a segment a few hours ago on how the refs helped Green Bay win. [&:]