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David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 10:01:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Isn't it a given the cap is going to take a huge hit next season because of the lack of fans this year?

The owners are not going to just bend over and eat that loss.

The public/fans gave them hundreds of millions of dollars to operate a business in good faith, and that business functions to deliver winning football and make money. The business has grown in value dramatically and continues to take in tens of millions of dollars every year from the network money. They aren't "losing" money, even now. Pay up.


Not having 60,000 to 80,000 fans buying tickets, food, and alcohol is a huge hit no matter what you think about their overall financial situation.


It is a huge hit. Now just think about all the years they've raked the shit out of us with tickets that cost $70-$200. A cup of beer for $9. A bottle of water for $5. A burger and fries of the quality you'd get at a hospital cafeteria for $14. $500 season parking passes. $150 jerseys. $300 jerseys. STADIUM BUILDERS LICENSES which were just free money to the team for literally NOTHING. Did I mention $9 cups of beer?

I'll risk sounding like an old fart here but maybe, JUST MAYBE, the teams should have saved some of that obscene mountain of money they've been whoring out their fans for since the dawn of time.

They'll get no sympathy from me.




SoMnFan -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 10:03:30 AM)

Was also going to say .... let's not shed tears for Owners, yet. [&:]




Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 10:10:29 AM)

I agree with my 2 smart friend above me.




ronhextall -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 10:17:13 AM)

I would be very happy if fans stayed away and it caused ticket prices to drop. As far as concessions, I rarely buy anything at sporting events. Not paying $10 for a can of beer and so-on down the line.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 10:36:42 AM)

That reminds me of hearing a family of 4 who spent over a 1000.00 on a game day "experience" to go to a Cowboys game on the radio.


Guy was laughing that his wife wanted a glass of wine that costed 17 that put them over the 1000 mark.




Guest -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 10:39:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Isn't it a given the cap is going to take a huge hit next season because of the lack of fans this year?

The owners are not going to just bend over and eat that loss.

The public/fans gave them hundreds of millions of dollars to operate a business in good faith, and that business functions to deliver winning football and make money. The business has grown in value dramatically and continues to take in tens of millions of dollars every year from the network money. They aren't "losing" money, even now. Pay up.


Not having 60,000 to 80,000 fans buying tickets, food, and alcohol is a huge hit no matter what you think about their overall financial situation.


It is a huge hit. Now just think about all the years they've raked the shit out of us with tickets that cost $70-$200. A cup of beer for $9. A bottle of water for $5. A burger and fries of the quality you'd get at a hospital cafeteria for $14. $500 season parking passes. $150 jerseys. $300 jerseys. STADIUM BUILDERS LICENSES which were just free money to the team for literally NOTHING. Did I mention $9 cups of beer?

I'll risk sounding like an old fart here but maybe, JUST MAYBE, the teams should have saved some of that obscene mountain of money they've been whoring out their fans for since the dawn of time.

They'll get no sympathy from me.


The soccer stadium we went to in LA last year had some pretty good deals don’t ya think-

$100 parking
$25mixed cocktails
$19 Coors light

Crazy, I believe the $24 I payed for a Coors light in the Tribeca Grand Hotel in Soho 15 years ago was the most shocked I’ve been ordering a drink.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 10:41:11 AM)

Well, it's a heavy load to carry water all the way down from the Rockies.




Guest -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 10:43:52 AM)

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Well, it's a heavy load to carry water all the way down from the Rockies.


Haha

I opted for the water coming from Moscow after only one from the Rockies.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 10:52:01 AM)

Vikings allowed 6 sacks Sunday vs the Bucs. 5 of them were vs only 4 rushers. Inexcusable.

(Purple FTW on Twitter)




joejitsu -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 10:54:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kurt bilben

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Well, it's a heavy load to carry water all the way down from the Rockies.


Haha

I opted for the water coming from Moscow after only one from the Rockies.


As long as the Russian water doesn't come from Chernobyl, you made a good choice. I personally think all the pro and college stadium experiences are too expensive. Even the White Sox, for whatever reason. Maybe the one positive coming out of all this is that it will cause the costs to drop somewhat.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 11:15:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

The #Vikings are working out kicker Taylor Bertolet, per the transaction wire. The 28-year-old went 9 of 14 on field goal attempts in the AAF last year and has never played in an NFL game. He kicked at Texas A&M from 2012-15 and made 66 percent of his FGAs.

(Will Ragatz on Twitter)

My hunch is that there will not be any changes this week for Bailey. Just some "competition".

Meet our new kicker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Bertolet



All I have to say about this is the guy isn't that accurate, and our Special Teams make Kickers worse. This would not be an improvement over Bailey




Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 11:36:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

The #Vikings are working out kicker Taylor Bertolet, per the transaction wire. The 28-year-old went 9 of 14 on field goal attempts in the AAF last year and has never played in an NFL game. He kicked at Texas A&M from 2012-15 and made 66 percent of his FGAs.

(Will Ragatz on Twitter)

My hunch is that there will not be any changes this week for Bailey. Just some "competition".

Meet our new kicker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Bertolet


All I have to say about this is the guy isn't that accurate, and our Special Teams make Kickers worse. This would not be an improvement over Bailey





This is the best they could find/ afford?

Yeesh..

Just a quick check of UFA kickers shows many better options..




David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 12:05:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

I would be very happy if fans stayed away and it caused ticket prices to drop. As far as concessions, I rarely buy anything at sporting events. Not paying $10 for a can of beer and so-on down the line.


https://blog.cheapism.com/nfl-beer-price-17508/#slide=21

In the last five years I've been to Arrowhead and also Mile High. Concessions are still expensive but no where near Piggy Wilf Stadium.

Beer and a hot dog at Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta - $5 and $2 - right where it should be. Same thing at Mile High - $7 and $5.50 - ridiculous. Arrowhead - $8 and $6 - stupid but still doable. Piggy Wilf - $10 and $6.50.




kevinemmer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 12:10:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

I would be very happy if fans stayed away and it caused ticket prices to drop. As far as concessions, I rarely buy anything at sporting events. Not paying $10 for a can of beer and so-on down the line.


https://blog.cheapism.com/nfl-beer-price-17508/#slide=21

In the last five years I've been to Arrowhead and also Mile High. Concessions are still expensive but no where near Piggy Wilf Stadium.

Beer and a hot dog at Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta - $5 and $2 - right where it should be. Same thing at Mile High - $7 and $5.50 - ridiculous. Arrowhead - $8 and $6 - stupid but still doable. Piggy Wilf - $10 and $6.50.


At least Vikes fans can't get obnoxiously drunk unless they're already loaded..
Ha! [;)]




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 12:23:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

The #Vikings are working out kicker Taylor Bertolet, per the transaction wire. The 28-year-old went 9 of 14 on field goal attempts in the AAF last year and has never played in an NFL game. He kicked at Texas A&M from 2012-15 and made 66 percent of his FGAs.

(Will Ragatz on Twitter)

My hunch is that there will not be any changes this week for Bailey. Just some "competition".

Meet our new kicker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Bertolet



All I have to say about this is the guy isn't that accurate, and our Special Teams make Kickers worse. This would not be an improvement over Bailey


Its clearly the same thing we do when we sign back-up QBs for Cousins.

We pick guys so bad, they can't possible win the battle and it assures there won't be a controversy that could damage the fragile egos of the incumbents.

Its making it look like we're making a move when we aren't. Its all optics to placate the fanbase.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 1:21:13 PM)

I was not able to copy this, but I promise you if you follow the link it will make you smile. It has to do with Jefferson, Diggs and Hopkins.

https://twitter.com/wludford/status/1338924732893319169?s=20




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 3:32:39 PM)

Kirk Cousins has been under pressure on 39.3% of his drop backs - 3rd highest among QBs with at least 200 drop backs - yet his sack rate is only 17th. And his passer rating (102.7) and PFF grade rank 8th overall. Imagine if he was pressured less?

This one I could copy from Ludford




bstinger -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 3:50:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

Kirk Cousins has been under pressure on 39.3% of his drop backs - 3rd highest among QBs with at least 200 drop backs - yet his sack rate is only 17th. And his passer rating (102.7) and PFF grade rank 8th overall. Imagine if he was pressured less?

This one I could copy from Ludford

It would be fun to watch him perform behind an above average line.




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 3:53:46 PM)

20+ Yard Receptions,
thru Week 14:

Justin Jefferson = 19
JJ Smith-Schuster + AJ Brown = 19

Dustin Baker on Twitter




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 3:58:34 PM)

The #Vikings have activated CB Mark Fields II (@MFII__) from IR and signed S Curtis Riley (@curtis35riley) to the practice squad.

CB Kris Boyd has been placed on IR and practice squad K Tristan Vizcaino has been released.

(Minnesota Vikings on Twitter)




Bruce Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 4:09:22 PM)

With Sunday's loss against the Buccaneers, the #Vikings have moved back from the 20th selection, up to the 14th selection in the 2021 NFL Draft.

Purple Post on Twitter




thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 7:13:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Well, it's a heavy load to carry water all the way down from the Rockies.

But it was a light beer




Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 8:15:50 PM)

Love losses like last week: chances of making the playoffs skyrocket AND the team jumps six spots in the first round!




Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 8:46:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bruce Johnson

With Sunday's loss against the Buccaneers, the #Vikings have moved back from the 20th selection, up to the 14th selection in the 2021 NFL Draft.

Purple Post on Twitter

Silver lining...




bohumm -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/15/2020 11:25:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Isn't it a given the cap is going to take a huge hit next season because of the lack of fans this year?

The owners are not going to just bend over and eat that loss.

The public/fans gave them hundreds of millions of dollars to operate a business in good faith, and that business functions to deliver winning football and make money. The business has grown in value dramatically and continues to take in tens of millions of dollars every year from the network money. They aren't "losing" money, even now. Pay up.


Not having 60,000 to 80,000 fans buying tickets, food, and alcohol is a huge hit no matter what you think about their overall financial situation.

It's also a huge hit to the public's coffers, and they still have to pay their full bill. Pony up, Wilfs!!! To be clear, they've shown no hesitancy to spend on the franchise that I'm aware of, and I'd imagine that would continue.




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