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Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 4:27:20 PM)

Here's the bottom line. The places that had huge outbreaks at the beginning and did something about it have successfully gotten the spread under control by taking drastic measures. Those that haven't, have not.

If some of you guys want to say that Sturgis was a good idea, go ahead. It only makes you sound dumber than a box of rocks.

We're six months into this deal. I don't know about you, but I'm damned tired of it and it seems as if some of you people have no desire to see it go away. You continue to justify pouring gas onto the fire. At some point if you keep banging your head into a wall, you've got to say ouch.

The virus knows no party affiliation. It has nothing to do with red states or blue states. It has nothing to do with conservative or liberal. It doesn't care. If you haven't learned to respect it yet, it will soon be knocking at your own door.

To those that still think it's a liberal hoax, please explain to me why it is in every country. Is it a liberal hoax in every country? Seems a bit far-fetched to me.

At the end of the day, I had a nephew get it, a friend's daughter get it, an associate get it, and a neighbor's aunt die from it. I've seen and heard enough from them to know it's no joke or hoax. I've also heard enough to know it's not something you wan't to fuc& with. So go ahead, justify Sturgis all you want. Karma is a bitch.



Bill Jandro -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 4:44:02 PM)

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Over 260 new cases in about 10 states traced back to the Sturgis Rally. Six days ago it was about 100 people. Over 100 in South Dakota alone.

Cases rising in Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Ohio, South Dakota and North Dakota.

Hope they had fun on their bikes. For some, it will be the last ride they ever have.

Good thing the Protestors/Rioters are immune.

I am against rioting and looting, though I think that positive things can come about along with the clear negatives of destruction of property and disruption of public safety. I am much closer to Big O on this than I am to Brad H. However, I don't think it's productive to equate a civil unrest reaction to a horrific instance of murder by police to an annual event people choose to go to and further choose to ignore public health guidelines. The protests were outdoors and most seemed to wear masks, while much of the Sturgis Rally culminates in bars and restaurants with few/no masks and no social distancing. It would suck for the town and its businesses to not have the income that accompanies the rally, but it would suck more to get sick or die because your neighbor chose to expose you to COVID so he or she could go to Sturgis, unmasked and without distancing. We'll see where the numbers end up, even though we'll never know for certain. All disease/death associated with this or any event that defies public health guidance are totally unnecessary and expose others, including healthcare workers, needlessly. There is also an economic impact to the healthcare required as well as the drag on the economy as we continue to "flatten" the curve at a high level as opposed to quashing it.

How do you know they weren't wearing masks or social distancing?

Riding motorcycle is socially distant. Plus, that's a huge area for bikers to spread out. I've been there a few times.



Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 4:52:38 PM)

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Over 260 new cases in about 10 states traced back to the Sturgis Rally. Six days ago it was about 100 people. Over 100 in South Dakota alone.

Cases rising in Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Ohio, South Dakota and North Dakota.

Hope they had fun on their bikes. For some, it will be the last ride they ever have.

Good thing the Protestors/Rioters are immune.

I am against rioting and looting, though I think that positive things can come about along with the clear negatives of destruction of property and disruption of public safety. I am much closer to Big O on this than I am to Brad H. However, I don't think it's productive to equate a civil unrest reaction to a horrific instance of murder by police to an annual event people choose to go to and further choose to ignore public health guidelines. The protests were outdoors and most seemed to wear masks, while much of the Sturgis Rally culminates in bars and restaurants with few/no masks and no social distancing. It would suck for the town and its businesses to not have the income that accompanies the rally, but it would suck more to get sick or die because your neighbor chose to expose you to COVID so he or she could go to Sturgis, unmasked and without distancing. We'll see where the numbers end up, even though we'll never know for certain. All disease/death associated with this or any event that defies public health guidance are totally unnecessary and expose others, including healthcare workers, needlessly. There is also an economic impact to the healthcare required as well as the drag on the economy as we continue to "flatten" the curve at a high level as opposed to quashing it.

How do you know they weren't wearing masks or social distancing?

Riding motorcycle is socially distant. Plus, that's a huge area for bikers to spread out. I've been there a few times.

Yep, they look like a concerned crowd. You've got a half a chance of catching it from that woman's ass (at the very least, you'll catch something). Picture taken August 10. https://www.insider.com/sturgis-motorcycle-rally-south-dakota-how-the-city-is-preparing-2020-8

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bohumm -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 4:54:41 PM)

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Over 260 new cases in about 10 states traced back to the Sturgis Rally. Six days ago it was about 100 people. Over 100 in South Dakota alone.

Cases rising in Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Ohio, South Dakota and North Dakota.

Hope they had fun on their bikes. For some, it will be the last ride they ever have.


260 cases out of 365,979 people attending? Take those numbers and you get 711 cases per million people

How many new COVID cases in the US were confirmed in that same 10 day period? Roughly 377,000. Take that out of 331 million and we get 1,140 cases per million people.

So, using your numbers, the people who attended the Rally were safer than the average American.

Which are we supposed to feel good about: the clearly underreported cases traced to this (or any) event, or the fact that 37,700 people (also clearly an undercount) are being diagnosed every day with a potentially lethal virus? We have totally failed on counting and tracing infections, which are pillars of containing outbreak. And the Trump administration and their adherents want to do even less of each.....


Apparently, you chose to read into my post in a number of ways that had nothing to do with any actual words I chose to use. For example, I do not remember saying we should "feel good" about anything at all. And I never went into a political area you chose to that had nothing at all to do with the Rally.

I just pointed out that Brad has no idea how to read numbers as it relates to COVID. The fact that this is plainly true is perhaps why you ignored the entire point of my post.

In this little, and fairly minor, exchange, I think we can see what is wrong with how we view the political realm. Any facts, facts mind you, that do not fit *the narrative* are ignored or made light of. We certainly see this from all sides.

It is just sad that you cannot really be on the 'side' of facts anymore. You have to be 'MAGAt' or a 'LIBtard'. Sad.

I was initially just addressing the act of comparison itself, which falls into the realm of "Yes I ate a whole pie, but not a la mode, so it was comparatively dietetic." And then the total failure of testing and tracing, and the fact that we're apparently going to do less and less of each going forward, at least until January 21.

I did address knowing how to read numbers relating to COVID, which you said was the point of your post, and which you apparently don't know how to do either, since you call your numbers "facts." None of those numbers are worth shitt because of the above-mentioned failure of testing and tracing. And yet you present them as "facts."

I really wasn't coming at you at all, but you can take it however you want. My post wasn't political; it's actually a fact that the Trump administration is scaling back testing per CDC guidance and they've never committed to contact tracing.



Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 5:00:50 PM)

You see any masks? https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/sturgis-motorcycle-rally-2020-bikers-undaunted-by-covid-pack-bars/ss-BB17N2Jc

Which one of these people is the doctor or surgeon?

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bohumm -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 5:03:01 PM)

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The city of Sturgis gets a mind-numbing 95% of its annual revenue from the bike rally so cancelling it would have been a disaster. And most businesses in town completely count on it to make their year.

Heaven for bid the 6,900-person town of Sturgis would risk few businesses remaining solvent over a handful of deaths.


So have you complained more about the Stugis rally or the Subway being opened in NY?

Again, lets not conflate the two as if they are equal. One serves the purpose of transportation for a major city. The other serves the purpose of getting drunk and showing off the latest Bald Eagle tattoo.


Which runs more people thru it daily....and never closed down a day for the last 6 months....Sturgis lasts a week to 10 days......fly over prejudice all over again.


Running at 20% of pre-pandemic levels, mandated masks, extensive disinfecting, etc.

None of that applies to Sturgis.


Again read my first post....I think they should have shut it down but I understand why they didn't....Brad just doesn't like Sturgis and that is fine. He finally admitted it.


Apples and Oranges.

The NY subway ridership is at 20% of of pre-pandemic levels and people are wearing masks and social distancing as they can. None of that applies to Sturgis

In countries where the pandemic has ebbed, ridership has rebounded in far greater numbers than in New York City — yet there have been no notable superspreader events linked to mass transit, according to a survey of transportation agencies conducted by The New York Times.

Those findings could be evidence that subways, commuter railways and buses may not be a significant source of transmission, as long as riders wear masks and train cars or buses never become as intensely crowded as they did in pre-pandemic rush hours.

The low infection rates on some public transportation systems can be attributed, in part, to measures transit agencies have adopted, including mandating face masks; disinfecting trains and buses; and ramping up service and asking businesses to stagger work hours to reduce rush-hour crowding.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/02/nyregion/nyc-subway-coronavirus-safety.html


Really...how about March & April when it should have been shut down? Sturgis numbers are down about 50% or more from normal...So (people still choose to ride the subway or go to Sturgis)....Sturgis is all some have---similar to Subway transportation.

How is a week-long party equivalent in any way to vital infrastructure?



Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 5:07:50 PM)

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The city of Sturgis gets a mind-numbing 95% of its annual revenue from the bike rally so cancelling it would have been a disaster. And most businesses in town completely count on it to make their year.

Heaven for bid the 6,900-person town of Sturgis would risk few businesses remaining solvent over a handful of deaths.


So have you complained more about the Stugis rally or the Subway being opened in NY?

Again, lets not conflate the two as if they are equal. One serves the purpose of transportation for a major city. The other serves the purpose of getting drunk and showing off the latest Bald Eagle tattoo.


Which runs more people thru it daily....and never closed down a day for the last 6 months....Sturgis lasts a week to 10 days......fly over prejudice all over again.


Running at 20% of pre-pandemic levels, mandated masks, extensive disinfecting, etc.

None of that applies to Sturgis.


Again read my first post....I think they should have shut it down but I understand why they didn't....Brad just doesn't like Sturgis and that is fine. He finally admitted it.


Apples and Oranges.

The NY subway ridership is at 20% of of pre-pandemic levels and people are wearing masks and social distancing as they can. None of that applies to Sturgis

In countries where the pandemic has ebbed, ridership has rebounded in far greater numbers than in New York City — yet there have been no notable superspreader events linked to mass transit, according to a survey of transportation agencies conducted by The New York Times.

Those findings could be evidence that subways, commuter railways and buses may not be a significant source of transmission, as long as riders wear masks and train cars or buses never become as intensely crowded as they did in pre-pandemic rush hours.

The low infection rates on some public transportation systems can be attributed, in part, to measures transit agencies have adopted, including mandating face masks; disinfecting trains and buses; and ramping up service and asking businesses to stagger work hours to reduce rush-hour crowding.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/02/nyregion/nyc-subway-coronavirus-safety.html


Really...how about March & April when it should have been shut down? Sturgis numbers are down about 50% or more from normal...So (people still choose to ride the subway or go to Sturgis)....Sturgis is all some have---similar to Subway transportation.

How is a week-long party equivalent in any way to vital infrastructure?

It isn't. But they will continue to tell you they are one in the same. The only thing close in comparison to Sturgis would be something like a state fair. Remind me, didn't they cancel that?

Perhaps Herman Cain has an opinion on the issue.



bohumm -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 5:10:36 PM)

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Over 260 new cases in about 10 states traced back to the Sturgis Rally. Six days ago it was about 100 people. Over 100 in South Dakota alone.

Cases rising in Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Ohio, South Dakota and North Dakota.

Hope they had fun on their bikes. For some, it will be the last ride they ever have.

Good thing the Protestors/Rioters are immune.

I am against rioting and looting, though I think that positive things can come about along with the clear negatives of destruction of property and disruption of public safety. I am much closer to Big O on this than I am to Brad H. However, I don't think it's productive to equate a civil unrest reaction to a horrific instance of murder by police to an annual event people choose to go to and further choose to ignore public health guidelines. The protests were outdoors and most seemed to wear masks, while much of the Sturgis Rally culminates in bars and restaurants with few/no masks and no social distancing. It would suck for the town and its businesses to not have the income that accompanies the rally, but it would suck more to get sick or die because your neighbor chose to expose you to COVID so he or she could go to Sturgis, unmasked and without distancing. We'll see where the numbers end up, even though we'll never know for certain. All disease/death associated with this or any event that defies public health guidance are totally unnecessary and expose others, including healthcare workers, needlessly. There is also an economic impact to the healthcare required as well as the drag on the economy as we continue to "flatten" the curve at a high level as opposed to quashing it.

How do you know they weren't wearing masks or social distancing?

Riding motorcycle is socially distant. Plus, that's a huge area for bikers to spread out. I've been there a few times.

I saw footage and pictures this year and other years. I"m sure when they were actually on their bikes their risk was low/non-existent. The rest of the time was very dicey.



Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 5:14:08 PM)

Perhaps we can agree on two things.

A) It isn't going away like a miracle
B) Ingesting disinfectant isn't likely going to help

Some guy once said both of those things.



thebigo -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 5:52:02 PM)

Sturgis Aug 7 - Aug 14 460,000 attendees, 250 cases = 1 in every 1,840 people
Minnesota Aug 7 - Aug 14 Pop. 5,640,000, 5016 cases = 1 in every 1,125 people



Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 6:04:38 PM)

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Sturgis Aug 7 - Aug 14 460,000 attendees, 250 cases = 1 in every 1,840 people
Minnesota Aug 7 - Aug 14 Pop. 5,640,000, 5016 cases = 1 in every 1,125 people

How did you come up with that 460,000 figure?



David Levine -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 6:06:14 PM)

Since the rally last day on Aug. 16, 263 COVID-19 cases have been linked to the event, with 105 in South Dakota alone, as well Minnesota, North Dakota, Colorado, Wyoming, Michigan, New Hampshire, Nebraska, Montana, Washington, New Jersey and Wisconsin, according to FNS and other media reports.

It will likely never be clear how many cases of COVID-19 across the country are connected to the Sturgis rally due to the lack of a national test and contact tracing system. The state-by-state patchwork nature of COVID-19 notifications is built to find and notify close contacts and publicize specific public exposures, not track the cross-state spread of the virus from a massive event.



David Levine -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 6:08:12 PM)

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Sturgis Aug 7 - Aug 14 460,000 attendees, 250 cases = 1 in every 1,840 people
Minnesota Aug 7 - Aug 14 Pop. 5,640,000, 5016 cases = 1 in every 1,125 people

How did you come up with that 460,000 figure?


He way rounded up. But what's 100K people either way...

From August 7 through 14, 2020, a total of 365,979 people attended the event—just 7.5 percent fewer people than the 2019 tally for the same time period, the DOT told Rapid City Journal

365,979 attendees, 263 cases = 1 in 1391 poeple.



Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 6:11:34 PM)

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Sturgis Aug 7 - Aug 14 460,000 attendees, 250 cases = 1 in every 1,840 people
Minnesota Aug 7 - Aug 14 Pop. 5,640,000, 5016 cases = 1 in every 1,125 people

How did you come up with that 460,000 figure?


He way rounded up. But what's 100K people either way...

From August 7 through 14, 2020, a total of 365,979 people attended the event—just 7.5 percent fewer people than the 2019 tally for the same time period, the DOT told Rapid City Journal

365,979 attendees, 263 cases = 1 in 1391 poeple.

Some other stats I found from the event. Sounds like a fun time if you don't mind getting hit by a drunk driver on the way home.

The Highway Patrol report of non-injury crashes was up slightly in 2020, with 50 crashes reported. In 2019, a total of 41 occurred. Crashes involving injuries were also up slightly, with 56 reported for 2020 over 52 in 2019. Fatal crashes doubled for 2020, with 4 crashes and 5 fatalities; in 2019, there were 2 crashes and 2 fatalities in total.

DUI arrests were down slightly for 2020, with 145 total arrests. For 2019, that number was 171 by the conclusion of the rally. Misdemeanor drug arrests were up, at 241; in 2019, that number was 213. Felony drug arrests were down slightly, at 126; the total for 2019 was 131. Total citations were most closely matched of all, with 1,334 issued for 2020 compared with 1,336 in 2019. Cash seizures were way up for 2020, with a total of $18,763; in 2019, police only seized $4,044 according to official reports.



David Levine -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 6:28:29 PM)

And I do feel bad for the 7.5% of people responsible enough to take a year off in the face of a pandemic. It sucks missing out on something you love.

Hell, we were supposed to go to Korea for a couple weeks at Christmas this year and that's sure not happening.

We'll live.



Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 6:33:53 PM)

By the way, don't look now but the national debt is at $26.7-trillion and climbing fast. So much for those children and grandchildren the Republicans always like to talk about when a Democrat is in charge.

It seems the Sturgis Rally didn't rescue the economy.



Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 6:48:25 PM)

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Over 260 new cases in about 10 states traced back to the Sturgis Rally. Six days ago it was about 100 people. Over 100 in South Dakota alone.

Cases rising in Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Ohio, South Dakota and North Dakota.

Hope they had fun on their bikes. For some, it will be the last ride they ever have.

Good thing the Protestors/Rioters are immune.

I am against rioting and looting, though I think that positive things can come about along with the clear negatives of destruction of property and disruption of public safety. I am much closer to Big O on this than I am to Brad H. However, I don't think it's productive to equate a civil unrest reaction to a horrific instance of murder by police to an annual event people choose to go to and further choose to ignore public health guidelines. The protests were outdoors and most seemed to wear masks, while much of the Sturgis Rally culminates in bars and restaurants with few/no masks and no social distancing. It would suck for the town and its businesses to not have the income that accompanies the rally, but it would suck more to get sick or die because your neighbor chose to expose you to COVID so he or she could go to Sturgis, unmasked and without distancing. We'll see where the numbers end up, even though we'll never know for certain. All disease/death associated with this or any event that defies public health guidance are totally unnecessary and expose others, including healthcare workers, needlessly. There is also an economic impact to the healthcare required as well as the drag on the economy as we continue to "flatten" the curve at a high level as opposed to quashing it.

How do you know they weren't wearing masks or social distancing?

Riding motorcycle is socially distant. Plus, that's a huge area for bikers to spread out. I've been there a few times.

Yep, they look like a concerned crowd. You've got a half a chance of catching it from that woman's ass (at the very least, you'll catch something). Picture taken August 10. https://www.insider.com/sturgis-motorcycle-rally-south-dakota-how-the-city-is-preparing-2020-8

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In looking at this picture, it seems as if a lot of infectious diseases could be on the rise.



thebigo -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 6:49:06 PM)

Attendance
The South Dakota Department of Transportation provides official traffic counts, which sometimes differ from official attendance figures.[13] Attendance is higher on major anniversaries (e.g. 75th in 2015) and one or two years prior to the anniversary, and falls off the following year or two.[14]

Year SDDOT traffic count Official attendance
1990 528,676 400,000
1999 539,475 325,000
2000 604,441 633,000
2001 530,667 410,000
2002 561,752 450,000
2003 605,140 502,000
2004 547,370 514,951
2005 524,656 525,250
2006 449,527 456,968
2007 461,507 507,234
2008 405,475 414,917
2009 394,009 442,163
2010 459,968 466,769
2011 415,367 416,727
2013 516,378[14]
2015 c. 1,000,000[15] 739,000[1]
2016 c.360,000[16] 448,000[17] – 463,412[18]
2017 376,033[16][19]–469,100[14] 480,000[17]
2018 505,969[14]
2019 499,654[20] 490,000 [21]
2020 462,000[22]

Although the final attendance # has not been determined, the actual attendance typically is very close to the # of vehicles.

Regardless of which # you want to use, the Sturgis rates are well below Minnesota rates. There is no breakdown of Sturgis attendance by state, so it is hard to break those numbers down. In the US during the same time period, 1 in 786 people contracted the coronavirus.

I would like to think that every positive test is likely accompanied by questions regarding recent travels.



bohumm -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 6:58:30 PM)

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And I do feel bad for the 7.5% of people responsible enough to take a year off in the face of a pandemic. It sucks missing out on something you love.

Hell, we were supposed to go to Korea for a couple weeks at Christmas this year and that's sure not happening.

We'll live.

This weekend was to be a surprise at the shore in Connecticut for my sister's 60th, with siblings and parents together for the first time in years. No Sturgis, but it was important to us. Deferred to next year, but no surprise and no milestone birthday. Some people are sacrificing, others can't be bothered to wear masks, not party, etc.



Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 7:04:45 PM)

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And I do feel bad for the 7.5% of people responsible enough to take a year off in the face of a pandemic. It sucks missing out on something you love.

Hell, we were supposed to go to Korea for a couple weeks at Christmas this year and that's sure not happening.

We'll live.

This weekend was to be a surprise at the shore in Connecticut for my sister's 60th, with siblings and parents together for the first time in years. No Sturgis, but it was important to us. Deferred to next year, but no surprise and no milestone birthday. Some people are sacrificing, others can't be bothered to wear masks, not party, etc.

You mentioned a key word there, sacrifice. We all should be making them. Not those Strurgis people though. They'll be damned if a little virus is going to get in the way of a drunken stupor and the opportunity to see a woman flash her breasts. Nothing like a cold Bud, the smell of sweat everywhere, a handful of women that looked hot 25 years ago and a potential deadly virus floating around. Where do I sign up?



thebigo -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 8:11:19 PM)

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And I do feel bad for the 7.5% of people responsible enough to take a year off in the face of a pandemic. It sucks missing out on something you love.

Hell, we were supposed to go to Korea for a couple weeks at Christmas this year and that's sure not happening.

We'll live.

This weekend was to be a surprise at the shore in Connecticut for my sister's 60th, with siblings and parents together for the first time in years. No Sturgis, but it was important to us. Deferred to next year, but no surprise and no milestone birthday. Some people are sacrificing, others can't be bothered to wear masks, not party, etc.


My mom is 91 got 10 kids and bunches of grandkids and great grandkids. She's probably got a couple years left. She's sequestered at my sisters in Rochester, only occasional visits from a family member here or there. So save your plea for pity.



Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 9:10:03 PM)

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Mark - they're not immune, but they at least are mostly wearing masks. After the George Floyd protests in Minneapolis there was no appreciable rise in Covid cases.

We will never know.

People came from out of state, not just Minneapolis.

Also, contact tracers(in certain states) were not allowed to ask covid positive people if they attended a George Floyd protest.



Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 9:25:42 PM)

NDSU/Central Arkansas football game

50% attendance of FargoDome will be allowed. 10K.



bohumm -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 9:57:34 PM)

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And I do feel bad for the 7.5% of people responsible enough to take a year off in the face of a pandemic. It sucks missing out on something you love.

Hell, we were supposed to go to Korea for a couple weeks at Christmas this year and that's sure not happening.

We'll live.

This weekend was to be a surprise at the shore in Connecticut for my sister's 60th, with siblings and parents together for the first time in years. No Sturgis, but it was important to us. Deferred to next year, but no surprise and no milestone birthday. Some people are sacrificing, others can't be bothered to wear masks, not party, etc.


My mom is 91 got 10 kids and bunches of grandkids and great grandkids. She's probably got a couple years left. She's sequestered at my sisters in Rochester, only occasional visits from a family member here or there. So save your plea for pity.

It wasn't a plea for pity; it's saying some things are higher priority and unique and some things come around every year. People have to sacrifice, but some are unwilling to. Your situation with your mom is much worse than mine with my sister----much more of a sacrifice to see her. I'm sorry you're having to go through it.



TJSweens -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 10:31:04 PM)

bohum counters the snark by deftly taking the high road. Nice job.



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