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bohumm -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/1/2020 11:36:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Lynn G. Mark - they're not immune, but they at least are mostly wearing masks. After the George Floyd protests in Minneapolis there was no appreciable rise in Covid cases. We will never know. People came from out of state, not just Minneapolis. Also, contact tracers(in certain states) were not allowed to ask covid positive people if they attended a George Floyd protest. That's pretty deep; I hadn't heard that. I kind of get part of it, but disappointing from a public health standpoint, and a lack of courage if it's only because they don't want to make anyone feel defensive.

TJSweens -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:02:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bohumm quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Lynn G. Mark - they're not immune, but they at least are mostly wearing masks. After the George Floyd protests in Minneapolis there was no appreciable rise in Covid cases. We will never know. People came from out of state, not just Minneapolis. Also, contact tracers(in certain states) were not allowed to ask covid positive people if they attended a George Floyd protest. That's pretty deep; I hadn't heard that. I kind of get part of it, but disappointing from a public health standpoint, and a lack of courage if it's only because they don't want to make anyone feel defensive. Which states were those? Where does that information come from?

TJSweens -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:11:45 AM)
I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this.

Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:18:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus.

stfrank -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:24:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus. A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA. [:D]

Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:27:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus. A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA. [:D] I would agree, which is why our health care system remains one of the most inefficient on the planet. Yep, we have some good doctors and nurses. Nobody denies that. But even the best doctors and nurses have no chance against a global pandemic, which is what we are seeing. People wonder why we haven't had enough testing or tracing? Because there is no money in it. Continuing to throw billions of dollars into our system is akin to throwing money into the Titanic while it's sinking. It's beyond irresponsible.

Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:30:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. The epicenter of covid19 in the USA. Probably the worst place to not have mandatory contact tracing. Anyway, yes, the Sturgis Rally was an F U to all the locking down and probably not the smartest event to have. But, we can talk about Protestors wearing masks and think that they are fine. No way in the dog days of Summer can a person leave a mask on in the heat and humidity for 4-8 hours. You could be doing everything perfect for 3.5 hours but that one half hour that you are chanting or just catching your breath without a mask negates it all.

Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:32:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. The epicenter of covid19 in the USA. Probably the worst place to not have mandatory contact tracing. Anyway, yes, the Sturgis Rally was an F U to all the locking down and probably not the smartest event to have. But, we can talk about Protestors wearing masks and think that they are fine. No way in the dog days of Summer can a person leave a mask on in the heat and humidity for 4-8 hours. You could be doing everything perfect for 3.5 hours but that one half hour that you are chanting or just catching your breath without a mask negates it all. I had reservations from the outset on the protests, but lets try not to conflate the two as equal events. That's a red herring like no other.

Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:34:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. The epicenter of covid19 in the USA. Probably the worst place to not have mandatory contact tracing. Anyway, yes, the Sturgis Rally was an F U to all the locking down and probably not the smartest event to have. But, we can talk about Protestors wearing masks and think that they are fine. No way in the dog days of Summer can a person leave a mask on in the heat and humidity for 4-8 hours. You could be doing everything perfect for 3.5 hours but that one half hour that you are chanting or just catching your breath without a mask negates it all. I had reservations from the outset on the protests, but lets try not to conflate the two as equal events. I wasn't trying to. I said one was deliberate and other one the majority were trying to do it the right way. The results probably end up the same though.

Phil Riewer -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:35:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus. A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA. [:D] As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns.

Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:36:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. The epicenter of covid19 in the USA. Probably the worst place to not have mandatory contact tracing. Anyway, yes, the Sturgis Rally was an F U to all the locking down and probably not the smartest event to have. But, we can talk about Protestors wearing masks and think that they are fine. No way in the dog days of Summer can a person leave a mask on in the heat and humidity for 4-8 hours. You could be doing everything perfect for 3.5 hours but that one half hour that you are chanting or just catching your breath without a mask negates it all. I had reservations from the outset on the protests, but lets try not to conflate the two as equal events. I wasn't trying to. I said one was deliberate and other one the majority were trying to do it the right way. The results probably end up the same though. The results end up the same? Was there any cultural change coming out of the Sturgis Rally? I missed that.

Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:39:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus. A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA. [:D] As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns. Sure there is. There just isn't money in testing and tracing. They'd rather put a person on a ventilator and have the person stay in their high-priced hospital for 30 days. That's where the money is.

Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:42:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. The epicenter of covid19 in the USA. Probably the worst place to not have mandatory contact tracing. Anyway, yes, the Sturgis Rally was an F U to all the locking down and probably not the smartest event to have. But, we can talk about Protestors wearing masks and think that they are fine. No way in the dog days of Summer can a person leave a mask on in the heat and humidity for 4-8 hours. You could be doing everything perfect for 3.5 hours but that one half hour that you are chanting or just catching your breath without a mask negates it all. I had reservations from the outset on the protests, but lets try not to conflate the two as equal events. I wasn't trying to. I said one was deliberate and other one the majority were trying to do it the right way. The results probably end up the same though. The results end up the same? Was there any cultural change coming out of the Sturgis Rally? I missed that. Here's a couple of famous Covid19 sayings. "You will kill your parents and grandparents" " The virus doesn't play favorites" I just want a little consistency on the reporting of how it is spread.

Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:44:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus. A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA. [:D] As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns. Nasdaq loves the Pandemic. Unbelievable the gains it has made.

bohumm -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:45:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. The epicenter of covid19 in the USA. Probably the worst place to not have mandatory contact tracing. Anyway, yes, the Sturgis Rally was an F U to all the locking down and probably not the smartest event to have. But, we can talk about Protestors wearing masks and think that they are fine. No way in the dog days of Summer can a person leave a mask on in the heat and humidity for 4-8 hours. You could be doing everything perfect for 3.5 hours but that one half hour that you are chanting or just catching your breath without a mask negates it all. I agree that the protests have been a big concern of mine with regard to spread of the virus. At least they are outdoors, though some probably end up indoors together at some point.

Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:46:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. The epicenter of covid19 in the USA. Probably the worst place to not have mandatory contact tracing. Anyway, yes, the Sturgis Rally was an F U to all the locking down and probably not the smartest event to have. But, we can talk about Protestors wearing masks and think that they are fine. No way in the dog days of Summer can a person leave a mask on in the heat and humidity for 4-8 hours. You could be doing everything perfect for 3.5 hours but that one half hour that you are chanting or just catching your breath without a mask negates it all. I had reservations from the outset on the protests, but lets try not to conflate the two as equal events. I wasn't trying to. I said one was deliberate and other one the majority were trying to do it the right way. The results probably end up the same though. The results end up the same? Was there any cultural change coming out of the Sturgis Rally? I missed that. Here's a couple of famous Covid19 sayings. "You will kill your parents and grandparents" " The virus doesn't play favorites" I just want a little consistency on the reporting of how it is spread. Here's a few more quotes that have become famous during the pandemic: "It will go away like a miracle." "And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?" "So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous - whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light."

Bill Jandro -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:47:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus. A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA. [:D] As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns. Sure there is. There just isn't money in testing and tracing. They'd rather put a person on a ventilator and have the person stay in their high-priced hospital for 30 days. That's where the money is. Our health care system clearly revolves around the almighty dollar.

Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:47:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus. A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA. [:D] As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns. Nasdaq loves the Pandemic. Unbelievable the gains it has made. Tell that to the 40-million people out of work.

Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:51:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus. A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA. [:D] As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns. Nasdaq loves the Pandemic. Unbelievable the gains it has made. Tell that to the 40-million people out of work. Relax. Just pointing out that some companies are getting rich off of a bad situation.

bohumm -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:53:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus. A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA. [:D] As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns. So treating patients is all just a political money grab?

Brad H -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 9:55:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus. A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA. [:D] As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns. Nasdaq loves the Pandemic. Unbelievable the gains it has made. Tell that to the 40-million people out of work. Relax. Just pointing out that some companies are getting rich off of a bad situation. Capitalism. It has immense flaws, and values profits over human life. It's playing out right in front of us, and most are too blind to see it.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 10:18:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus. A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA. [:D] As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns. Nasdaq loves the Pandemic. Unbelievable the gains it has made. Absolutely. Reducing office space and laying off or cutting thousands of employees looks great to the bottom line. It really shows how one of the most widely (mis)used barometers of our economy in no way reflects the economic health of the nation.

Mark Anderson -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 10:21:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus. A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA. [:D] As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns. Nasdaq loves the Pandemic. Unbelievable the gains it has made. Absolutely. Reducing office space and laying off or cutting thousands of employees looks great to the bottom line. It really shows how one of the most widely (mis)used barometers of our economy in no way reflects the economic health of the nation. Bill. What would say about our economy pre-Pandemic? Good numbers but more debt? Nothing great?

bohumm -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 10:38:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens I looked it up. It was New York City. DeBlasio did it to satisfy people who were concerned about the police using the information. He maintains that the questioning gives them the opportunity to volunteer the information without being directly asked. Not sure how they do that, but that's what he says. In my cursory interweb search on my Google machine, I didn't find any other cities or states doing this. It is an example of a failed health care system. In Europe they do contract tracing because the health care system cares about its people. It is baked into the DNA. In Germany they have an app on your phone that tells you whether or not you have been close to anyone with the virus. A heath care system that isn't based on profits over health care is considered socialist by the angry old white men in charge and thus has no chance in the USA. [:D] As an FYI the Big Health Insurance Companies have had record profits the last quarter....there is money in this pandemic. A big reason why the politics are what they are and money is getting thrown at campaigns. Nasdaq loves the Pandemic. Unbelievable the gains it has made. Absolutely. Reducing office space and laying off or cutting thousands of employees looks great to the bottom line. It really shows how one of the most widely (mis)used barometers of our economy in no way reflects the economic health of the nation. Another qualifier for deceptive metrics is the obsession with productivity numbers. Reduce staffing, neglect safety, reduce maintenance spending, don't give raises, etc, and see (unsustainable) "productivity" numbers go up. Analytics helps/ruins everything....

Lynn G. -> RE: Covid 19 and those infected (9/2/2020 10:40:24 AM)
Pre-pandemic our economy was just continuing on the upward track that Trump inherited. All he had to do was get out of the way of 90 straight months of private sector growth. He couldn't quite help himself to get out of the way, though. His trade wars and tariff fights meant that something like 3000 small family farms shut down, so, correct - nothing great. And correct - more debt. And the chasm between the rich and the not-rich had grown even wider - which is most certainly not good for an economy.

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