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Pager -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 1:01:20 PM)

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Now that I think of it. I would have never thrust Ezra at RG after Samia didn't work out. I would have put Ezra in at LG and moved Dozier to the right side. Dozier has experience on the right side and would have equally sucked at either position.

I never would have gone into a training camp with Dozier and Elflein as my starting guards in the first place.



You and everyone else not named Zimmer and Spielman.



David F. -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 1:07:27 PM)

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Now that I think of it. I would have never thrust Ezra at RG after Samia didn't work out. I would have put Ezra in at LG and moved Dozier to the right side. Dozier has experience on the right side and would have equally sucked at either position.

I never would have gone into a training camp with Dozier and Elflein as my starting guards in the first place.



You and everyone else not named Zimmer and Spielman.


This one really stands out as such a horrendous example of poor planning. Did they think these guys were good? Then they are terrible talent evaluators. Were they hoping for a down year to boost draft position? Then they should have lost vs. Detroit at the end of the season. That one meaningless win in a sloppy excuse for a football game dropped us out of the top 10.

I have been, and am still, done with Speilman and Zimmer. They had their chance and have run their course. Move on and try again.



Pager -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 1:15:54 PM)

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Now that I think of it. I would have never thrust Ezra at RG after Samia didn't work out. I would have put Ezra in at LG and moved Dozier to the right side. Dozier has experience on the right side and would have equally sucked at either position.

I never would have gone into a training camp with Dozier and Elflein as my starting guards in the first place.



You and everyone else not named Zimmer and Spielman.


This one really stands out as such a horrendous example of poor planning. Did they think these guys were good? Then they are terrible talent evaluators. Were they hoping for a down year to boost draft position? Then they should have lost vs. Detroit at the end of the season. That one meaningless win in a sloppy excuse for a football game dropped us out of the top 10.

I have been, and am still, done with Speilman and Zimmer. They had their chance and have run their course. Move on and try again.



If it was going to be a down year, you cut Reiff and save 23M, you don't trade for Yannick - save a 2nd rounder and 6-8M. You don't franchise Harris, save 11M. You cut or don't extend Rudy, save millions. You figure out a position for Watts either NT or 3T and get him extra PT over Stephens (or cut him and save Millions). You see what you have with Ezra at LT and Udoh somewhere on the line. And on and on.

Piss poor team building choices by Zimmer and Spielman over the last two years. And not much of this is hindsight. These boards are littered with these comments.



jbusse -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 1:22:53 PM)

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Now that I think of it. I would have never thrust Ezra at RG after Samia didn't work out. I would have put Ezra in at LG and moved Dozier to the right side. Dozier has experience on the right side and would have equally sucked at either position.

I never would have gone into a training camp with Dozier and Elflein as my starting guards in the first place.



You and everyone else not named Zimmer and Spielman.


This one really stands out as such a horrendous example of poor planning. Did they think these guys were good? Then they are terrible talent evaluators. Were they hoping for a down year to boost draft position? Then they should have lost vs. Detroit at the end of the season. That one meaningless win in a sloppy excuse for a football game dropped us out of the top 10.

I have been, and am still, done with Speilman and Zimmer. They had their chance and have run their course. Move on and try again.



If it was going to be a down year, you cut Reiff and save 23M, you don't trade for Yannick - save a 2nd rounder and 6-8M. You don't franchise Harris, save 11M. You cut or don't extend Rudy, save millions. You figure out a position for Watts either NT or 3T and get him extra PT over Stephens (or cut him and save Millions). You see what you have with Ezra at LT and Udoh somewhere on the line. And on and on.

Piss poor team building choices by Zimmer and Spielman over the last two years. And not much of this is hindsight. These boards are littered with these comments.

I agree, except I don't think they were expecting a down year.



David F. -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 1:36:55 PM)

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Now that I think of it. I would have never thrust Ezra at RG after Samia didn't work out. I would have put Ezra in at LG and moved Dozier to the right side. Dozier has experience on the right side and would have equally sucked at either position.

I never would have gone into a training camp with Dozier and Elflein as my starting guards in the first place.



You and everyone else not named Zimmer and Spielman.


This one really stands out as such a horrendous example of poor planning. Did they think these guys were good? Then they are terrible talent evaluators. Were they hoping for a down year to boost draft position? Then they should have lost vs. Detroit at the end of the season. That one meaningless win in a sloppy excuse for a football game dropped us out of the top 10.

I have been, and am still, done with Speilman and Zimmer. They had their chance and have run their course. Move on and try again.



If it was going to be a down year, you cut Reiff and save 23M, you don't trade for Yannick - save a 2nd rounder and 6-8M. You don't franchise Harris, save 11M. You cut or don't extend Rudy, save millions. You figure out a position for Watts either NT or 3T and get him extra PT over Stephens (or cut him and save Millions). You see what you have with Ezra at LT and Udoh somewhere on the line. And on and on.

Piss poor team building choices by Zimmer and Spielman over the last two years. And not much of this is hindsight. These boards are littered with these comments.

I agree, except I don't think they were expecting a down year.


Then they are terrible talent evaluators.



bohumm -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 2:01:31 PM)

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Now that I think of it. I would have never thrust Ezra at RG after Samia didn't work out. I would have put Ezra in at LG and moved Dozier to the right side. Dozier has experience on the right side and would have equally sucked at either position.

I never would have gone into a training camp with Dozier and Elflein as my starting guards in the first place.



You and everyone else not named Zimmer and Spielman.


This one really stands out as such a horrendous example of poor planning. Did they think these guys were good? Then they are terrible talent evaluators. Were they hoping for a down year to boost draft position? Then they should have lost vs. Detroit at the end of the season. That one meaningless win in a sloppy excuse for a football game dropped us out of the top 10.

I have been, and am still, done with Speilman and Zimmer. They had their chance and have run their course. Move on and try again.

The true ****ery, though, is that as bad as the line was last year in contrast to how the powers that be seemed to see things, the OL is dramatically worse now. The only actions taken after cutting the best performer from last year are the resigning of the worst player from last year and a TRADE for someone who appears to be just as bad (in the same ways) as last year's IOL, which was horrendous.

Lesson NOT learned, bad bet DOUBLED DOWN on. Whoops.



jbusse -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 2:40:41 PM)

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Now that I think of it. I would have never thrust Ezra at RG after Samia didn't work out. I would have put Ezra in at LG and moved Dozier to the right side. Dozier has experience on the right side and would have equally sucked at either position.

I never would have gone into a training camp with Dozier and Elflein as my starting guards in the first place.



You and everyone else not named Zimmer and Spielman.


This one really stands out as such a horrendous example of poor planning. Did they think these guys were good? Then they are terrible talent evaluators. Were they hoping for a down year to boost draft position? Then they should have lost vs. Detroit at the end of the season. That one meaningless win in a sloppy excuse for a football game dropped us out of the top 10.

I have been, and am still, done with Speilman and Zimmer. They had their chance and have run their course. Move on and try again.



If it was going to be a down year, you cut Reiff and save 23M, you don't trade for Yannick - save a 2nd rounder and 6-8M. You don't franchise Harris, save 11M. You cut or don't extend Rudy, save millions. You figure out a position for Watts either NT or 3T and get him extra PT over Stephens (or cut him and save Millions). You see what you have with Ezra at LT and Udoh somewhere on the line. And on and on.

Piss poor team building choices by Zimmer and Spielman over the last two years. And not much of this is hindsight. These boards are littered with these comments.

I agree, except I don't think they were expecting a down year.


Then they are terrible talent evaluators.

I don't know, they were decent the year before. Injuries played a big role in the defense's putrid play. Todd M was optimistic before the season [:)].



Bill Jandro -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 3:03:45 PM)

In a trade down another guy that I'm hearing good things about is Tevon Jenkins, From what I'm hearing he is more of a RT but has a real mean streak. Another guy is Meinerz.

Both pass Spielmans 3 cone shuttle test yet can still block



Phil Riewer -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 3:15:22 PM)

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Now that I think of it. I would have never thrust Ezra at RG after Samia didn't work out. I would have put Ezra in at LG and moved Dozier to the right side. Dozier has experience on the right side and would have equally sucked at either position.

I never would have gone into a training camp with Dozier and Elflein as my starting guards in the first place.



You and everyone else not named Zimmer and Spielman.


This one really stands out as such a horrendous example of poor planning. Did they think these guys were good? Then they are terrible talent evaluators. Were they hoping for a down year to boost draft position? Then they should have lost vs. Detroit at the end of the season. That one meaningless win in a sloppy excuse for a football game dropped us out of the top 10.

I have been, and am still, done with Speilman and Zimmer. They had their chance and have run their course. Move on and try again.



If it was going to be a down year, you cut Reiff and save 23M, you don't trade for Yannick - save a 2nd rounder and 6-8M. You don't franchise Harris, save 11M. You cut or don't extend Rudy, save millions. You figure out a position for Watts either NT or 3T and get him extra PT over Stephens (or cut him and save Millions). You see what you have with Ezra at LT and Udoh somewhere on the line. And on and on.

Piss poor team building choices by Zimmer and Spielman over the last two years. And not much of this is hindsight. These boards are littered with these comments.

I agree, except I don't think they were expecting a down year.


Then they are terrible talent evaluators.


I think two things happened on the DLine that caught them by surprise (Hunter not healthy and Pierce opting out) that really hurt.

I think you see what they have done this year with very little money was amazing for the Defense side. What can they do for the offense thru the draft now?



Trekgeekscott -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 3:30:42 PM)

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Now that I think of it. I would have never thrust Ezra at RG after Samia didn't work out. I would have put Ezra in at LG and moved Dozier to the right side. Dozier has experience on the right side and would have equally sucked at either position.

I never would have gone into a training camp with Dozier and Elflein as my starting guards in the first place.



You and everyone else not named Zimmer and Spielman.


This one really stands out as such a horrendous example of poor planning. Did they think these guys were good? Then they are terrible talent evaluators. Were they hoping for a down year to boost draft position? Then they should have lost vs. Detroit at the end of the season. That one meaningless win in a sloppy excuse for a football game dropped us out of the top 10.

I have been, and am still, done with Speilman and Zimmer. They had their chance and have run their course. Move on and try again.



If it was going to be a down year, you cut Reiff and save 23M, you don't trade for Yannick - save a 2nd rounder and 6-8M. You don't franchise Harris, save 11M. You cut or don't extend Rudy, save millions. You figure out a position for Watts either NT or 3T and get him extra PT over Stephens (or cut him and save Millions). You see what you have with Ezra at LT and Udoh somewhere on the line. And on and on.

Piss poor team building choices by Zimmer and Spielman over the last two years. And not much of this is hindsight. These boards are littered with these comments.

I agree, except I don't think they were expecting a down year.


Then they are terrible talent evaluators.


I think two things happened on the DLine that caught them by surprise (Hunter not healthy and Pierce opting out) that really hurt.

I think you see what they have done this year with very little money was amazing for the Defense side. What can they do for the offense thru the draft now?


Not to mention Barr, Kendricks, Hughes getting hurt. I believe they were probably counting on all of them to contribute quite a bit.

They have done a lot to shore up the defense in FA. The draft has to be more about the Oline than anything.



Phil Riewer -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 3:40:52 PM)

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Now that I think of it. I would have never thrust Ezra at RG after Samia didn't work out. I would have put Ezra in at LG and moved Dozier to the right side. Dozier has experience on the right side and would have equally sucked at either position.

I never would have gone into a training camp with Dozier and Elflein as my starting guards in the first place.



You and everyone else not named Zimmer and Spielman.


This one really stands out as such a horrendous example of poor planning. Did they think these guys were good? Then they are terrible talent evaluators. Were they hoping for a down year to boost draft position? Then they should have lost vs. Detroit at the end of the season. That one meaningless win in a sloppy excuse for a football game dropped us out of the top 10.

I have been, and am still, done with Speilman and Zimmer. They had their chance and have run their course. Move on and try again.



If it was going to be a down year, you cut Reiff and save 23M, you don't trade for Yannick - save a 2nd rounder and 6-8M. You don't franchise Harris, save 11M. You cut or don't extend Rudy, save millions. You figure out a position for Watts either NT or 3T and get him extra PT over Stephens (or cut him and save Millions). You see what you have with Ezra at LT and Udoh somewhere on the line. And on and on.

Piss poor team building choices by Zimmer and Spielman over the last two years. And not much of this is hindsight. These boards are littered with these comments.

I agree, except I don't think they were expecting a down year.


Then they are terrible talent evaluators.


I think two things happened on the DLine that caught them by surprise (Hunter not healthy and Pierce opting out) that really hurt.

I think you see what they have done this year with very little money was amazing for the Defense side. What can they do for the offense thru the draft now?


Not to mention Barr, Kendricks, Hughes getting hurt. I believe they were probably counting on all of them to contribute quite a bit.

They have done a lot to shore up the defense in FA. The draft has to be more about the Oline than anything.


I should have said pre regular season (Pierce and Hunter) but Barr was hurt in the first few games as was Hughes then Kendricks later in the year. Hunter's injury is why they went after the DE IMO.



bohumm -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 4:23:15 PM)

Pass Pro:
LT: Last year good, this year looks worse (hopefully at least fair)
LG: Last year horrible, this year looks the same
C: Last year horrible, this year looks the same or somewhat better
RG: Last year horrible, this year looks the same or somewhat better
RT: Last year good, this year looks the same

This will be a telling year for Bradbury in particular. If he's not at least somewhat better in pass pro, he likely never will be. So far, he's been bad. Same with Cleveland to a lesser extent, since he's only going into his second year and he switched positions. I'd like to see what he can do at LT, unless I don't know what I don't know. O'Neill is good and probably is what he'll be, unless he gets moved to LT.

Get me guards in the first and third, and move Cleveland to LT.



Pager -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 5:27:36 PM)

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Now that I think of it. I would have never thrust Ezra at RG after Samia didn't work out. I would have put Ezra in at LG and moved Dozier to the right side. Dozier has experience on the right side and would have equally sucked at either position.

I never would have gone into a training camp with Dozier and Elflein as my starting guards in the first place.



You and everyone else not named Zimmer and Spielman.


This one really stands out as such a horrendous example of poor planning. Did they think these guys were good? Then they are terrible talent evaluators. Were they hoping for a down year to boost draft position? Then they should have lost vs. Detroit at the end of the season. That one meaningless win in a sloppy excuse for a football game dropped us out of the top 10.

I have been, and am still, done with Speilman and Zimmer. They had their chance and have run their course. Move on and try again.



If it was going to be a down year, you cut Reiff and save 23M, you don't trade for Yannick - save a 2nd rounder and 6-8M. You don't franchise Harris, save 11M. You cut or don't extend Rudy, save millions. You figure out a position for Watts either NT or 3T and get him extra PT over Stephens (or cut him and save Millions). You see what you have with Ezra at LT and Udoh somewhere on the line. And on and on.

Piss poor team building choices by Zimmer and Spielman over the last two years. And not much of this is hindsight. These boards are littered with these comments.

I agree, except I don't think they were expecting a down year.


Then they are terrible talent evaluators.


Exactly

Pierce was one of the first to opt out. They had just cut Rhodes and lost Mac & Waynes to FA. Reports on Hunter's injury lingering and being season threatening were out at about the same time.

Their plan for the oline was Reiff, Dozier, Bradbury, Elf, ONeil from day 1 after the draft.

You can't win with a poor Oline, Dline and a bunch of rookies in the secondary.

It was all made worse with Kendricks and Barr missing time.



David F. -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 5:37:33 PM)

If we had incurred no injuries or opt outs on defense we still had zero chance of a title with our offensive line. Poor talent evaluators.



thebigo -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 5:46:23 PM)

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Now that I think of it. I would have never thrust Ezra at RG after Samia didn't work out. I would have put Ezra in at LG and moved Dozier to the right side. Dozier has experience on the right side and would have equally sucked at either position.

I never would have gone into a training camp with Dozier and Elflein as my starting guards in the first place.



You and everyone else not named Zimmer and Spielman.


Maybe some guys named Kubiak and Dennison.



Bill Jandro -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 6:00:10 PM)

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Now that I think of it. I would have never thrust Ezra at RG after Samia didn't work out. I would have put Ezra in at LG and moved Dozier to the right side. Dozier has experience on the right side and would have equally sucked at either position.

I never would have gone into a training camp with Dozier and Elflein as my starting guards in the first place.



You and everyone else not named Zimmer and Spielman.


This one really stands out as such a horrendous example of poor planning. Did they think these guys were good? Then they are terrible talent evaluators. Were they hoping for a down year to boost draft position? Then they should have lost vs. Detroit at the end of the season. That one meaningless win in a sloppy excuse for a football game dropped us out of the top 10.

I have been, and am still, done with Speilman and Zimmer. They had their chance and have run their course. Move on and try again.



If it was going to be a down year, you cut Reiff and save 23M, you don't trade for Yannick - save a 2nd rounder and 6-8M. You don't franchise Harris, save 11M. You cut or don't extend Rudy, save millions. You figure out a position for Watts either NT or 3T and get him extra PT over Stephens (or cut him and save Millions). You see what you have with Ezra at LT and Udoh somewhere on the line. And on and on.

Piss poor team building choices by Zimmer and Spielman over the last two years. And not much of this is hindsight. These boards are littered with these comments.

I agree, except I don't think they were expecting a down year.


Then they are terrible talent evaluators.


Exactly

Pierce was one of the first to opt out. They had just cut Rhodes and lost Mac & Waynes to FA. Reports on Hunter's injury lingering and being season threatening were out at about the same time.

Their plan for the oline was Reiff, Dozier, Bradbury, Elf, ONeil from day 1 after the draft.

You can't win with a poor Oline, Dline and a bunch of rookies in the secondary.

It was all made worse with Kendricks and Barr missing time.

Same ole, same ole

We'll beat up the Detroit's of the NFL with sub par dlines and it'll be a grease fire against the better dlines.



kgdabom -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 6:32:46 PM)

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My Vikings top 20 YouTube Big Board 2021

1. Trevor Lawrence, QB
2. Zach Wilson, QB
3. Trey Lance, QB
4. Justin Fields, QB
5. Kyle Pitts, WR/TE
6. Penei Sewell, OT
7. Rashawn Slater, OT
8. Ja'Marr Chase, WR
9. Jaylen Waddle, WR
10. DeVonta Smith, WR
11. Christian Darrisaw, OT
12. Alijah Vera-Tucker, OG
13. Jaelan Phillips, DE
14. Patrick Surtain II, CB
15. Micah Parsons, LB
16. Jaycee Horn, CB
17. Gregory Rousseau, DE
18. Kwity Paye, DE
19. Caleb Farley, CB
20. Trevon Moehrig, S

I guarantee you that one of your top 14 will be available when pick 14 comes around.



thebigo -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 6:44:44 PM)

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My Vikings top 20 YouTube Big Board 2021

1. Trevor Lawrence, QB
2. Zach Wilson, QB
3. Trey Lance, QB
4. Justin Fields, QB
5. Kyle Pitts, WR/TE
6. Penei Sewell, OT
7. Rashawn Slater, OT
8. Ja'Marr Chase, WR
9. Jaylen Waddle, WR
10. DeVonta Smith, WR
11. Christian Darrisaw, OT
12. Alijah Vera-Tucker, OG
13. Jaelan Phillips, DE
14. Patrick Surtain II, CB
15. Micah Parsons, LB
16. Jaycee Horn, CB
17. Gregory Rousseau, DE
18. Kwity Paye, DE
19. Caleb Farley, CB
20. Trevon Moehrig, S

I guarantee you that one of your top 14 will be available when pick 14 comes around.


Rock solid logic.



kgdabom -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 7:00:27 PM)

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My Vikings top 20 YouTube Big Board 2021

1. Trevor Lawrence, QB
2. Zach Wilson, QB
3. Trey Lance, QB
4. Justin Fields, QB
5. Kyle Pitts, WR/TE
6. Penei Sewell, OT
7. Rashawn Slater, OT
8. Ja'Marr Chase, WR
9. Jaylen Waddle, WR
10. DeVonta Smith, WR
11. Christian Darrisaw, OT
12. Alijah Vera-Tucker, OG
13. Jaelan Phillips, DE
14. Patrick Surtain II, CB
15. Micah Parsons, LB
16. Jaycee Horn, CB
17. Gregory Rousseau, DE
18. Kwity Paye, DE
19. Caleb Farley, CB
20. Trevon Moehrig, S

I guarantee you that one of your top 14 will be available when pick 14 comes around.


Rock solid logic.

[:D]



Todd M -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 7:03:15 PM)

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Now that I think of it. I would have never thrust Ezra at RG after Samia didn't work out. I would have put Ezra in at LG and moved Dozier to the right side. Dozier has experience on the right side and would have equally sucked at either position.

I never would have gone into a training camp with Dozier and Elflein as my starting guards in the first place.



You and everyone else not named Zimmer and Spielman.


This one really stands out as such a horrendous example of poor planning. Did they think these guys were good? Then they are terrible talent evaluators. Were they hoping for a down year to boost draft position? Then they should have lost vs. Detroit at the end of the season. That one meaningless win in a sloppy excuse for a football game dropped us out of the top 10.

I have been, and am still, done with Speilman and Zimmer. They had their chance and have run their course. Move on and try again.



If it was going to be a down year, you cut Reiff and save 23M, you don't trade for Yannick - save a 2nd rounder and 6-8M. You don't franchise Harris, save 11M. You cut or don't extend Rudy, save millions. You figure out a position for Watts either NT or 3T and get him extra PT over Stephens (or cut him and save Millions). You see what you have with Ezra at LT and Udoh somewhere on the line. And on and on.

Piss poor team building choices by Zimmer and Spielman over the last two years. And not much of this is hindsight. These boards are littered with these comments.

I agree, except I don't think they were expecting a down year.


Then they are terrible talent evaluators.

I don't know, they were decent the year before. Injuries played a big role in the defense's putrid play. Todd M was optimistic before the season [:)].



I thought I was somewhat reserved last year. [:D]

No hiding my optimism this year though. And after the draft when we add a top LT, a 3rd round guard, and 2 or 3 OL from the 5th through UDFA...y'all be feeling it too.



Todd M -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 7:06:35 PM)

If the Bengals hold with Reiff and go WR or TE.. the table is set for us to trade up for Sewell.

They'll pounce...I just know it.



Pager -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 8:31:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

If the Bengals hold with Reiff and go WR or TE.. the table is set for us to trade up for Sewell.

They'll pounce...I just know it.



Sewell not going to be there at 7.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-miami-dolphins-trade-173724439.html



Todd M -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 11:07:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pager

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

If the Bengals hold with Reiff and go WR or TE.. the table is set for us to trade up for Sewell.

They'll pounce...I just know it.



Sewell not going to be there at 7.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-miami-dolphins-trade-173724439.html


Well now I hope the Bengals take him but by the sounds of the article they have their eyes elsewhere. Damn...it was all lining up until those damn meddling dolphins ****ed things up.



Todd M -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/27/2021 11:17:26 PM)

SD



ratoppenheimer -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/28/2021 12:28:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pager

quote:

ORIGINAL: Todd M

If the Bengals hold with Reiff and go WR or TE.. the table is set for us to trade up for Sewell.

They'll pounce...I just know it.



Sewell not going to be there at 7.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-miami-dolphins-trade-173724439.html



Reiff has already agreed to play on the right side for Cincinnati....



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