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twinsfan -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 2:15:11 PM)

Tim Tebow has entered the draft as a tight end.




TJSweens -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 2:25:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I like Mackey's plan:

Phil Mackey
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Vikings draft thoughts for tonight...

What I would do (A): Eyes peeled for Trey Lance or Justin Fields to fall. Pounce if they do.

What I would do (B): Offensive line, offensive line, offensive line

What they'll probably do: Jaelan Phillips

No Phillips. Multiple concussions already in college. Very risky at #14.




ronhextall -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 2:35:24 PM)

Aaron Rodgers breaking news...

Reports are all over the place, he just told Packers he doesn't want to play for them anymore.

Go Get Him!!!!!




Tom Sykes -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 2:40:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Aaron Rodgers breaking news...

Reports are all over the place, he just told Packers he doesn't want to play for them anymore.

Go Get Him!!!!!

yeah I'm reading that stuff.

There's no way. In hell.

We are just not that lucky.




Phil Riewer -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 2:40:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Aaron Rodgers breaking news...

Reports are all over the place, he just told Packers he doesn't want to play for them anymore.

Go Get Him!!!!!



LOL....they won't trade him to us. (SF apparently dangling #3 pick).




Brad H -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 2:40:51 PM)

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Hire me.

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Don T in CO -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 2:43:04 PM)

I'm not doing my annual consensus big board this year, but I did find a couple of sites that did it for me-

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2021/consensus-big-board-2021

https://stillcurtain.com/2021/04/29/2021-nfl-draft-consensus-board/


Enjoy the draft. Barooooo!




ronhextall -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 2:43:25 PM)

If I was Jags and Rodgers was willing I would do it.

Urban Meyer doesn't want to coach that long anyway.




Brad H -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 2:49:47 PM)

A-
Hire me again

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Todd M -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 2:59:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Aaron Rodgers breaking news...

Reports are all over the place, he just told Packers he doesn't want to play for them anymore.

Go Get Him!!!!!



LOL....they won't trade him to us. (SF apparently dangling #3 pick).


3 way. We get Rodgers, SF gets Cousins, GB gets #3.




The Happy Norseman -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 3:00:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Aaron Rodgers breaking news...

Reports are all over the place, he just told Packers he doesn't want to play for them anymore.

Go Get Him!!!!!


Spielman needs to draft like his job depends on it (it does), which means drafting players that can help the team this year. No stockpiling of 6th and 7th rounders. If Rodgers leaves the division then the Vikings are the clear front runners to win the North. More pressure on Zim to win. Kirk will also be the highest rated QB in the division by a wide margin. Kind of a low bar, though...




joejitsu -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 3:01:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Aaron Rodgers breaking news...

Reports are all over the place, he just told Packers he doesn't want to play for them anymore.

Go Get Him!!!!!


I'm actually surprised about this news because PA reported it this morning. He finally got something right!!!




Trekgeekscott -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 3:55:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Aaron Rodgers breaking news...

Reports are all over the place, he just told Packers he doesn't want to play for them anymore.

Go Get Him!!!!!


Just like with Favre they will NOT trade him in the division.

But why not a three team bonanza....


Packers get SFs 1st and Garopolo, We Get Rodgers and SF gets Cousins and two of our thirds.




Karl Juhnke -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 4:26:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

First round. What I think the Vikings will do. What I hope the Vikings do:

What they will do: DL/edge *

The main topic seems to be OL. Yes that's a perennial need it seems. But I think they go DL/edge. It's been several years now since they've picked DL in the first round. combine that with the nondescript, bland performance of the line last year, combine with Zimmer's focus on defense and I just think it's by far the most likely scenario. They'll figure they can bolster OL later, and get the blue chip DL in round 1. YEs I know there aren't many of them this year, but the Vikings are not drafting very high either, and the may move down more. See disclaimer. So most likely is Michigan guy?

What I hope they do: Same. DL/edge.

This is one of those years where I'm in agreement. They need a defensive line monster. Yes I know the OL needs help...as always. And I'm usually urging them on to get it. But last year the DL was worse. Yes I know Hunter was hurt. But the ragtag group they limped through the season with last year was pathetic. Near the bottom in sacks. And they didn't pressure or disrupt anybody. The DL is in far worse shape then the OL.

* A disclaimer:
Having said all that. There is no way trader Rick sits out the 2nd round. It would absolutely kill him. The Vikings 100% will have a second round pick one way or another. So that likely means a trade down? We'll see.

Agree and disagree. OL was far worse, and they're getting back both Pierce and Hunter along with the additions of Weatherly and Tomlinson. Wonnum is developing as well.

There has been no upgrade for the horrendous IOL, and tackle is far worse with the departure of Reiff.

If the Vikes don't go IOL in the first, they'd better be stellar the rest of the way or it could be a very long year.


I still say even though nobody talks about it, DL was under the radar worse than OL last year.

The reason I say under the radar is, it’s more noticeable when the OL is bad. More immediate. The QB is getting sacked, hurried, running for his life. It’s less visible when the DL is doing poorly because the result is lack of pressure. So you see opposing QBs week after week sitting comfortably in the pocket calmly surveying the field.

2020 was the least disruptive DL the Vikings have had in a long time. And nobody besides a healthy Hunter excites me. All under performing and replaceable.




David F. -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 4:36:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Aaron Rodgers breaking news...

Reports are all over the place, he just told Packers he doesn't want to play for them anymore.

Go Get Him!!!!!

yeah I'm reading that stuff.

There's no way. In hell.

We are just not that lucky.


NFL radio is running with this story. I believe it’s legit.




Bill Jandro -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 4:40:26 PM)

Can anyone photoshop a pic of Penny Sewell in a gas mask




Tom Sykes -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 4:59:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Aaron Rodgers breaking news...

Reports are all over the place, he just told Packers he doesn't want to play for them anymore.

Go Get Him!!!!!

yeah I'm reading that stuff.

There's no way. In hell.

We are just not that lucky.


NFL radio is running with this story. I believe it’s legit.

I DO believe its legit ... I just don't think it will happen.

Rogers is probably just pressuring the FO to draft a WR.

He has a little more influence than I do with my little Spielman voodoo doll.




Funkytown -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 5:29:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: David F.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Aaron Rodgers breaking news...

Reports are all over the place, he just told Packers he doesn't want to play for them anymore.

Go Get Him!!!!!

yeah I'm reading that stuff.

There's no way. In hell.

We are just not that lucky.


NFL radio is running with this story. I believe it’s legit.


When it came from Schefter, I couldn't even hold in my excitement. Smiling ear to ear ever since! [:D]




Funkytown -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 5:31:49 PM)

Link of interest for you guys:

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2021/4/25/22403002/nfl-draft-board-2021

Draft Board:

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/22469422/pTn3Ubz.0.png

But also links to more specific positions:

https://i.imgur.com/3ZhR5sl.png

Give it a look! It's especially useful on Day 3!

EDIT: I originally displayed the images, but NOPE, they're too huge. lol. Give the links a click! You'll see they're worth the look!




Todd M -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 5:45:47 PM)

del




Todd M -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 5:46:25 PM)

No real point entertaing Rodgers coming here. Seeing him shipped out of the NFC would be a nice consolation.




thebigo -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 6:11:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

quote:

ORIGINAL: ronhextall

Aaron Rodgers breaking news...

Reports are all over the place, he just told Packers he doesn't want to play for them anymore.

Go Get Him!!!!!


Just like with Favre they will NOT trade him in the division.

But why not a three team bonanza....


Packers get SFs 1st and Garopolo, We Get Rodgers and SF gets Cousins and two of our thirds.


because like with Favruh, GB puts riders on the trade that specify the team receiving Erin may not trade him to a team in the North, into perpetuity kind of thing. Now if that team just releases him, all bets are off. I'm sure Danno is sweating this one out!




thebigo -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 6:17:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

First round. What I think the Vikings will do. What I hope the Vikings do:

What they will do: DL/edge *

The main topic seems to be OL. Yes that's a perennial need it seems. But I think they go DL/edge. It's been several years now since they've picked DL in the first round. combine that with the nondescript, bland performance of the line last year, combine with Zimmer's focus on defense and I just think it's by far the most likely scenario. They'll figure they can bolster OL later, and get the blue chip DL in round 1. YEs I know there aren't many of them this year, but the Vikings are not drafting very high either, and the may move down more. See disclaimer. So most likely is Michigan guy?

What I hope they do: Same. DL/edge.

This is one of those years where I'm in agreement. They need a defensive line monster. Yes I know the OL needs help...as always. And I'm usually urging them on to get it. But last year the DL was worse. Yes I know Hunter was hurt. But the ragtag group they limped through the season with last year was pathetic. Near the bottom in sacks. And they didn't pressure or disrupt anybody. The DL is in far worse shape then the OL.

* A disclaimer:
Having said all that. There is no way trader Rick sits out the 2nd round. It would absolutely kill him. The Vikings 100% will have a second round pick one way or another. So that likely means a trade down? We'll see.

Agree and disagree. OL was far worse, and they're getting back both Pierce and Hunter along with the additions of Weatherly and Tomlinson. Wonnum is developing as well.

There has been no upgrade for the horrendous IOL, and tackle is far worse with the departure of Reiff.

If the Vikes don't go IOL in the first, they'd better be stellar the rest of the way or it could be a very long year.


I still say even though nobody talks about it, DL was under the radar worse than OL last year.

The reason I say under the radar is, it’s more noticeable when the OL is bad. More immediate. The QB is getting sacked, hurried, running for his life. It’s less visible when the DL is doing poorly because the result is lack of pressure. So you see opposing QBs week after week sitting comfortably in the pocket calmly surveying the field.

2020 was the least disruptive DL the Vikings have had in a long time. And nobody besides a healthy Hunter excites me. All under performing and replaceable.


We got 2 pro-bowl types returning to the DL, and our top free agency signee is DT. True we likely won't have a probowler at each spot, but we might well have 2. Maybe 3.




bohumm -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 6:18:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

First round. What I think the Vikings will do. What I hope the Vikings do:

What they will do: DL/edge *

The main topic seems to be OL. Yes that's a perennial need it seems. But I think they go DL/edge. It's been several years now since they've picked DL in the first round. combine that with the nondescript, bland performance of the line last year, combine with Zimmer's focus on defense and I just think it's by far the most likely scenario. They'll figure they can bolster OL later, and get the blue chip DL in round 1. YEs I know there aren't many of them this year, but the Vikings are not drafting very high either, and the may move down more. See disclaimer. So most likely is Michigan guy?

What I hope they do: Same. DL/edge.

This is one of those years where I'm in agreement. They need a defensive line monster. Yes I know the OL needs help...as always. And I'm usually urging them on to get it. But last year the DL was worse. Yes I know Hunter was hurt. But the ragtag group they limped through the season with last year was pathetic. Near the bottom in sacks. And they didn't pressure or disrupt anybody. The DL is in far worse shape then the OL.

* A disclaimer:
Having said all that. There is no way trader Rick sits out the 2nd round. It would absolutely kill him. The Vikings 100% will have a second round pick one way or another. So that likely means a trade down? We'll see.

Agree and disagree. OL was far worse, and they're getting back both Pierce and Hunter along with the additions of Weatherly and Tomlinson. Wonnum is developing as well.

There has been no upgrade for the horrendous IOL, and tackle is far worse with the departure of Reiff.

If the Vikes don't go IOL in the first, they'd better be stellar the rest of the way or it could be a very long year.


I still say even though nobody talks about it, DL was under the radar worse than OL last year.

The reason I say under the radar is, it’s more noticeable when the OL is bad. More immediate. The QB is getting sacked, hurried, running for his life. It’s less visible when the DL is doing poorly because the result is lack of pressure. So you see opposing QBs week after week sitting comfortably in the pocket calmly surveying the field.

2020 was the least disruptive DL the Vikings have had in a long time. And nobody besides a healthy Hunter excites me. All under performing and replaceable.

But they're bringing in Pierce, Tomlinson, and Weatherly, getting back Hunter, and have a DE with at least some potential in Wonnum. They can also sign a pass rushing specialist for 15 or so snaps per game while starting Weatherly to have a pretty beastly DL against the run and a decent pass rush. If they draft Paye I'd be annoyed but I'd get it; if they draft Philips I think they're out of their minds to draft someone with such a severe health risk so high for a position where there's not a true, gaping hole, while we have two such holes on the O-line.




bohumm -> RE: NFL Draft 2021 (4/29/2021 6:19:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

First round. What I think the Vikings will do. What I hope the Vikings do:

What they will do: DL/edge *

The main topic seems to be OL. Yes that's a perennial need it seems. But I think they go DL/edge. It's been several years now since they've picked DL in the first round. combine that with the nondescript, bland performance of the line last year, combine with Zimmer's focus on defense and I just think it's by far the most likely scenario. They'll figure they can bolster OL later, and get the blue chip DL in round 1. YEs I know there aren't many of them this year, but the Vikings are not drafting very high either, and the may move down more. See disclaimer. So most likely is Michigan guy?

What I hope they do: Same. DL/edge.

This is one of those years where I'm in agreement. They need a defensive line monster. Yes I know the OL needs help...as always. And I'm usually urging them on to get it. But last year the DL was worse. Yes I know Hunter was hurt. But the ragtag group they limped through the season with last year was pathetic. Near the bottom in sacks. And they didn't pressure or disrupt anybody. The DL is in far worse shape then the OL.

* A disclaimer:
Having said all that. There is no way trader Rick sits out the 2nd round. It would absolutely kill him. The Vikings 100% will have a second round pick one way or another. So that likely means a trade down? We'll see.

Agree and disagree. OL was far worse, and they're getting back both Pierce and Hunter along with the additions of Weatherly and Tomlinson. Wonnum is developing as well.

There has been no upgrade for the horrendous IOL, and tackle is far worse with the departure of Reiff.

If the Vikes don't go IOL in the first, they'd better be stellar the rest of the way or it could be a very long year.


I still say even though nobody talks about it, DL was under the radar worse than OL last year.

The reason I say under the radar is, it’s more noticeable when the OL is bad. More immediate. The QB is getting sacked, hurried, running for his life. It’s less visible when the DL is doing poorly because the result is lack of pressure. So you see opposing QBs week after week sitting comfortably in the pocket calmly surveying the field.

2020 was the least disruptive DL the Vikings have had in a long time. And nobody besides a healthy Hunter excites me. All under performing and replaceable.


We got 2 pro-bowl types returning to the DL, and our top free agency signee is DT. True we likely won't have a probowler at each spot, but we might well have 2. Maybe 3.

+1




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