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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

TC leads to a lot of speculation exactly opposite to what coaches are seeing ...

But right now it looks like Hill Cleveland Bradbury Udoh O'Neil to start game 1.

LT - Down Arrow from Reiff: at least Hill is serviceable/decent ... not sure long term but I don't mind opening with him (this also gives former shoe-in now Plan B Darrisaw time to get healthy and acclimate).

LG - Up arrow from Dozier: at least Cleveland is still viewed by the braintrust as starter material (somewhere). Just okay as a rookie on the right side, at least brings a lot more to the table than Dozey.

C - Same as in no bueno: Bradbury might improve, or not. Interesting that Davis got a little practice at C (just in case Udoh takes RG?)

RG - Up arrow from Cleveland: If you you are going to misplace OTs at G, at least Udoh has the size and strength to mix it up in there, and a couple of developmental offseasons under his belt.

RT - Same as in good: Give O'Neil a contract and be thankful they haven't created a third G spot for him.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

TC leads to a lot of speculation exactly opposite to what coaches are seeing ...

But right now it looks like Hill Cleveland Bradbury Udoh O'Neil to start game 1.

LT - Down Arrow from Reiff: at least Hill is serviceable/decent ... not sure long term but I don't mind opening with him (this also gives former shoe-in now Plan B Darrisaw time to get healthy and acclimate).

LG - Up arrow from Dozier: at least Cleveland is still viewed by the braintrust as starter material (somewhere). Just okay as a rookie on the right side, at least brings a lot more to the table than Dozey.

C - Same as in no bueno: Bradbury might improve, or not. Interesting that Davis got a little practice at C (just in case Udoh takes RG?)

RG - Up arrow from Cleveland: If you you are going to misplace OTs at G, at least Udoh has the size and strength to mix it up in there, and a couple of developmental offseasons under his belt.

RT - Same as in good: Give O'Neil a contract and be thankful they haven't created a third G spot for him.

So the up arrows are based on Cleveland > Dozier and Udoh > Cleveland.

HMmMMm.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

TC leads to a lot of speculation exactly opposite to what coaches are seeing ...

But right now it looks like Hill Cleveland Bradbury Udoh O'Neil to start game 1.

LT - Down Arrow from Reiff: at least Hill is serviceable/decent ... not sure long term but I don't mind opening with him (this also gives former shoe-in now Plan B Darrisaw time to get healthy and acclimate).

LG - Up arrow from Dozier: at least Cleveland is still viewed by the braintrust as starter material (somewhere). Just okay as a rookie on the right side, at least brings a lot more to the table than Dozey.

C - Same as in no bueno: Bradbury might improve, or not. Interesting that Davis got a little practice at C (just in case Udoh takes RG?)

RG - Up arrow from Cleveland: If you you are going to misplace OTs at G, at least Udoh has the size and strength to mix it up in there, and a couple of developmental offseasons under his belt.

RT - Same as in good: Give O'Neil a contract and be thankful they haven't created a third G spot for him.

So the up arrows are based on Cleveland > Dozier and Udoh > Cleveland.

HMmMMm.

I think its a fair bet that Cleveland will be better over all than Dozier. Yes a projection based on hope.

I think its a wild-ass guess that Udoh will be better at RG than Cleveland last year. Yes a projection based on shifting away from vaccine talk in this thread.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

Here's an interesting series of 3 posts from my other favorite Vikings site.

How about Thielen and Harrison? They refuse to get the vaccine too

Nobody has a beef with them so what they did is OK. Some hate Cousins so he's not a team player which is a bunch of garbage. He plays behind a garbage OL and has never #### about them. R Wilson who basically shut it down last year and is a team player blamed his OL publicly. His OL is great compared to what Cousins plays behind. When Wilson threw the pick 6 in the playoffs last year there was no pressure. He didn't read the coverage and was baited and threw the gofer up. That's a team player to some. Or they will #### about Cousins salary. He was offered what he signed. If they cut him right now teams would be lining up. But he's not a team guy because he makes big money. Hunter was threatening to sit because he didn't like the deal he just signed. But that's a team first guy. That's a dirt ball and don't care about the team. They should have told him to pound salt you signed the deal. I saw an interview with Aikman and he said his OL was great and that's what a great team does. They put a great line in front of the QB. The Chiefs did the same for Mahomes. They didn't draft a few nothings they went out and got proven top flight NFL players. We could have done that also but our GM ignores our OL. Mond is the guy that had covid. He didn't follow the protocals. He never will. Send him down the road now. That's not a team guy and provides nothing for our season. But some will say it wasn't his fault. That's BS.

You make a great point about Cousins getting all the flak/hate yet 36% of the Vikings aren't vaccinated and we barely hear a peep about the others. Also I hear all the players hate Cousins so they aren't following him in not getting vaxed.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

Here's an interesting series of 3 posts from my other favorite Vikings site.

How about Thielen and Harrison? They refuse to get the vaccine too

Nobody has a beef with them so what they did is OK. Some hate Cousins so he's not a team player which is a bunch of garbage. He plays behind a garbage OL and has never #### about them. R Wilson who basically shut it down last year and is a team player blamed his OL publicly. His OL is great compared to what Cousins plays behind. When Wilson threw the pick 6 in the playoffs last year there was no pressure. He didn't read the coverage and was baited and threw the gofer up. That's a team player to some. Or they will #### about Cousins salary. He was offered what he signed. If they cut him right now teams would be lining up. But he's not a team guy because he makes big money. Hunter was threatening to sit because he didn't like the deal he just signed. But that's a team first guy. That's a dirt ball and don't care about the team. They should have told him to pound salt you signed the deal. I saw an interview with Aikman and he said his OL was great and that's what a great team does. They put a great line in front of the QB. The Chiefs did the same for Mahomes. They didn't draft a few nothings they went out and got proven top flight NFL players. We could have done that also but our GM ignores our OL. Mond is the guy that had covid. He didn't follow the protocals. He never will. Send him down the road now. That's not a team guy and provides nothing for our season. But some will say it wasn't his fault. That's BS.

You make a great point about Cousins getting all the flak/hate yet 36% of the Vikings aren't vaccinated and we barely hear a peep about the others. Also I hear all the players hate Cousins so they aren't following him in not getting vaxed.

Other than the question post, the other 2 posts don't seem to be well thought out.

1) While Cousins is getting the majority of the flak, Harrison and Thielen are taking plenty of flak, and their heretofore impeccable reputations have taken signicant hits.

2) "Also I hear all the players hate Cousins so they aren't following him in not getting vaxed."

Huh?

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

Here's an interesting series of 3 posts from my other favorite Vikings site.

How about Thielen and Harrison? They refuse to get the vaccine too

Nobody has a beef with them so what they did is OK. Some hate Cousins so he's not a team player which is a bunch of garbage. He plays behind a garbage OL and has never #### about them. R Wilson who basically shut it down last year and is a team player blamed his OL publicly. His OL is great compared to what Cousins plays behind. When Wilson threw the pick 6 in the playoffs last year there was no pressure. He didn't read the coverage and was baited and threw the gofer up. That's a team player to some. Or they will #### about Cousins salary. He was offered what he signed. If they cut him right now teams would be lining up. But he's not a team guy because he makes big money. Hunter was threatening to sit because he didn't like the deal he just signed. But that's a team first guy. That's a dirt ball and don't care about the team. They should have told him to pound salt you signed the deal. I saw an interview with Aikman and he said his OL was great and that's what a great team does. They put a great line in front of the QB. The Chiefs did the same for Mahomes. They didn't draft a few nothings they went out and got proven top flight NFL players. We could have done that also but our GM ignores our OL. Mond is the guy that had covid. He didn't follow the protocals. He never will. Send him down the road now. That's not a team guy and provides nothing for our season. But some will say it wasn't his fault. That's BS.

You make a great point about Cousins getting all the flak/hate yet 36% of the Vikings aren't vaccinated and we barely hear a peep about the others. Also I hear all the players hate Cousins so they aren't following him in not getting vaxed.

Other than the question post, the other 2 posts don't seem to be well thought out.

1) While Cousins is getting the majority of the flak, Harrison and Thielen are taking plenty of flak, and their heretofore impeccable reputations have taken signicant hits.

2) "Also I hear all the players hate Cousins so they aren't following him in not getting vaxed."

Huh?

1: Harrison and Thielen are probably getting 5% or less flak as Cousins.
2: Sarcasm. The Cousins haters talk out of both sides of their mouths. They say his teammates hate him and turn around and say he's a leader and influencing all the other players to not get vaccinated.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

Here's an interesting series of 3 posts from my other favorite Vikings site.

How about Thielen and Harrison? They refuse to get the vaccine too

Nobody has a beef with them so what they did is OK. Some hate Cousins so he's not a team player which is a bunch of garbage. He plays behind a garbage OL and has never #### about them. R Wilson who basically shut it down last year and is a team player blamed his OL publicly. His OL is great compared to what Cousins plays behind. When Wilson threw the pick 6 in the playoffs last year there was no pressure. He didn't read the coverage and was baited and threw the gofer up. That's a team player to some. Or they will #### about Cousins salary. He was offered what he signed. If they cut him right now teams would be lining up. But he's not a team guy because he makes big money. Hunter was threatening to sit because he didn't like the deal he just signed. But that's a team first guy. That's a dirt ball and don't care about the team. They should have told him to pound salt you signed the deal. I saw an interview with Aikman and he said his OL was great and that's what a great team does. They put a great line in front of the QB. The Chiefs did the same for Mahomes. They didn't draft a few nothings they went out and got proven top flight NFL players. We could have done that also but our GM ignores our OL. Mond is the guy that had covid. He didn't follow the protocals. He never will. Send him down the road now. That's not a team guy and provides nothing for our season. But some will say it wasn't his fault. That's BS.

You make a great point about Cousins getting all the flak/hate yet 36% of the Vikings aren't vaccinated and we barely hear a peep about the others. Also I hear all the players hate Cousins so they aren't following him in not getting vaxed.

Other than the question post, the other 2 posts don't seem to be well thought out.

1) While Cousins is getting the majority of the flak, Harrison and Thielen are taking plenty of flak, and their heretofore impeccable reputations have taken signicant hits.

2) "Also I hear all the players hate Cousins so they aren't following him in not getting vaxed."

Huh?

1: Harrison and Thielen are probably getting 5% or less flak as Cousins.
2: Sarcasm. The Cousins haters talk out of both sides of their mouths. They say his teammates hate him and turn around and say he's a leader and influencing all the other players to not get vaccinated.

You read that as sarcasm? I read that as "dumb guy". Let's face it, many dumb guys enjoy having a platform in the interweb.

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

Personally, I think the reassignment of Dennison, will marginally improve our offensive line,
The bigger issue is the head coaching inflexibility to adapt scheme and play calling to the variety of situational needs, in real time.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

TC leads to a lot of speculation exactly opposite to what coaches are seeing ...

But right now it looks like Hill Cleveland Bradbury Udoh O'Neil to start game 1.

LT - Down Arrow from Reiff: at least Hill is serviceable/decent ... not sure long term but I don't mind opening with him (this also gives former shoe-in now Plan B Darrisaw time to get healthy and acclimate).

LG - Up arrow from Dozier: at least Cleveland is still viewed by the braintrust as starter material (somewhere). Just okay as a rookie on the right side, at least brings a lot more to the table than Dozey.

C - Same as in no bueno: Bradbury might improve, or not. Interesting that Davis got a little practice at C (just in case Udoh takes RG?)

RG - Up arrow from Cleveland: If you you are going to misplace OTs at G, at least Udoh has the size and strength to mix it up in there, and a couple of developmental offseasons under his belt.

RT - Same as in good: Give O'Neil a contract and be thankful they haven't created a third G spot for him.

So the up arrows are based on Cleveland > Dozier and Udoh > Cleveland.

HMmMMm.

I think its a fair bet that Cleveland will be better over all than Dozier. Yes a projection based on hope.

I think its a wild-ass guess that Udoh will be better at RG than Cleveland last year. Yes a projection based on shifting away from vaccine talk in this thread.

2021 Cleveland LG + Udoh RG > 2020 Cleveland RG + Dozier LG is likely.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

Personally, I think the reassignment of Dennison, will marginally improve our offensive line,
The bigger issue is the head coaching inflexibility to adapt scheme and play calling to the variety of situational needs, in real time.

Sure hope Kubiak Jr is up to the task.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Lol. Guessing the 3rd post is kg's.

Posts from rando's from another site. How sad.

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: thebigo

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

Here's an interesting series of 3 posts from my other favorite Vikings site.

How about Thielen and Harrison? They refuse to get the vaccine too

Nobody has a beef with them so what they did is OK. Some hate Cousins so he's not a team player which is a bunch of garbage. He plays behind a garbage OL and has never #### about them. R Wilson who basically shut it down last year and is a team player blamed his OL publicly. His OL is great compared to what Cousins plays behind. When Wilson threw the pick 6 in the playoffs last year there was no pressure. He didn't read the coverage and was baited and threw the gofer up. That's a team player to some. Or they will #### about Cousins salary. He was offered what he signed. If they cut him right now teams would be lining up. But he's not a team guy because he makes big money. Hunter was threatening to sit because he didn't like the deal he just signed. But that's a team first guy. That's a dirt ball and don't care about the team. They should have told him to pound salt you signed the deal. I saw an interview with Aikman and he said his OL was great and that's what a great team does. They put a great line in front of the QB. The Chiefs did the same for Mahomes. They didn't draft a few nothings they went out and got proven top flight NFL players. We could have done that also but our GM ignores our OL. Mond is the guy that had covid. He didn't follow the protocals. He never will. Send him down the road now. That's not a team guy and provides nothing for our season. But some will say it wasn't his fault. That's BS.

You make a great point about Cousins getting all the flak/hate yet 36% of the Vikings aren't vaccinated and we barely hear a peep about the others. Also I hear all the players hate Cousins so they aren't following him in not getting vaxed.

Other than the question post, the other 2 posts don't seem to be well thought out.

1) While Cousins is getting the majority of the flak, Harrison and Thielen are taking plenty of flak, and their heretofore impeccable reputations have taken signicant hits.

2) "Also I hear all the players hate Cousins so they aren't following him in not getting vaxed."

Huh?

1: Harrison and Thielen are probably getting 5% or less flak as Cousins.
2: Sarcasm. The Cousins haters talk out of both sides of their mouths. They say his teammates hate him and turn around and say he's a leader and influencing all the other players to not get vaccinated.

You read that as sarcasm? I read that as "dumb guy". Let's face it, many dumb guys enjoy having a platform in the interweb.

I know the guy well. Obvious sarcasm. Somebody as sarcastic as you should recognize it.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

The last couple seasons, considering our numbers/quality at OT, I was hoping the team would try Udoh out at guard, where IMO he is well suited (moreso than Cleveland IMO), and we were severely lacking in quality. This year, with Darrisaw hampered, our OT numbers are way down, I mean what do we have after Oneill and Hill? Go figure.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

Is it just me or does it seem like RG is between Udoh and Dozier already?

Haven’t heard much about Davis other than he got dinged up a bit and got tried at a couple of positions.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Hey, Lamar Jackson is worse than Kirk!!!!

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Hey, Lamar Jackson is worse than Kirk!!!!

Heard a sound bite on radio with him saying "I need to get more information and talk to doctors".

What a load of shit, get the damn shot. The math of the positives far outweigh the math on the negatives.

Truly amazes me. LOOK AT THE MATH !!!!