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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I have very little to no problem with Cousins. Especially this year but he's going to be a massive problem moving forward. There are 3 outcomes:

1. You keep him and he eats way too much cap so you can't build around him
2. You extend him which keeps him around longer than I/many want
3. You trade him and bring in a new, similar, problem

No good way out of that last extension.

If the goal is to get rid of Cousins while minimizing the financial impact, then a trade is the only viable option. It would cost the Vikings $10M in dead cap space, but you would save his $21M salary for the year and the following year's balloon payment of $45M. By all means do it, if it is part of a grand plan to get Watson or #1 in the draft.

Don't do it as a cost saving maneuver. If they aren't going to upgrade from Cousins, then they need to restructure him and put a real offensive line in front of him. Whether people want to admit it or not, he is a top 10 QB. He isn't Brady, Mahomes, Wilson, Breeze, Watson or Erin, but he is in the next tier. Put a good team around him and he will win.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Since 2018, average field position after a kickoff is 27.15.

https://thecommutesports.com/2020/10/27/nfl-starting-field-position/

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Sourced reporting from the Vikings beat writer at The Athletic:

"Because of that, speculation has escalated recently that the Vikings might look to trade Cousins. But the Vikings don’t seem to share that sentiment. The team hasn’t made a single call to another team looking to trade Cousins, according to a source. They want to be in contention for a playoff run and believe they have a team that can do that with Cousins at the helm. They don’t want to get worse at quarterback."

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I would have no issues trading Cousins for Minshew and a couple of high draft picks....same with the Jets for Darnold. I like those two gun slingers plus they probably could still draft Lance. Double down on QB for once.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I would have no issues trading Cousins for Minshew and a couple of high draft picks....same with the Jets for Darnold. I like those two gun slingers plus they probably could still draft Lance. Double down on QB for once.

In what world are Darnold and Minshew "gun slingers"?

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I have very little to no problem with Cousins. Especially this year but he's going to be a massive problem moving forward. There are 3 outcomes:

1. You keep him and he eats way too much cap so you can't build around him
2. You extend him which keeps him around longer than I/many want
3. You trade him and bring in a new, similar, problem

No good way out of that last extension.

If the goal is to get rid of Cousins while minimizing the financial impact, then a trade is the only viable option. It would cost the Vikings $10M in dead cap space, but you would save his $21M salary for the year and the following year's balloon payment of $45M. By all means do it, if it is part of a grand plan to get Watson or #1 in the draft.

Don't do it as a cost saving maneuver. If they aren't going to upgrade from Cousins, then they need to restructure him and put a real offensive line in front of him. Whether people want to admit it or not, he is a top 10 QB. He isn't Brady, Mahomes, Wilson, Breeze, Watson or Erin, but he is in the next tier. Put a good team around him and he will win.

I think the only realistic option is if Carolina were to come knocking.

If they were to offer Bridgewater and other compensation it's possible Spiel/Zim would listen.

However, it would be a 20ml cap hit to trade Cousins not 10ml per sportrac.

Bridgewater is due 23ml next season. He can be cut in 2022 with only a 5ml cap hit.

So, if my math is right if we were to trade Cousins for Teddy it would cost us 23+20+5=47ml
That's better than 76ml for 2 more years of Cousins.

The beauty of this is that Carolina might offer maybe the 8th pick which we'd could get QBOTF with but his rookie salary would need to be added to this equation.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

I would have no issues trading Cousins for Minshew and a couple of high draft picks....same with the Jets for Darnold. I like those two gun slingers plus they probably could still draft Lance. Double down on QB for once.

In what world are Darnold and Minshew "gun slingers"?

I don't know coming in as an undrafted rookie and throwing 21 TDs and 6 Ints (Minshew).
For Darnold they basically took away his best weapon Robbie Anderson 2019 (Rookie year 21 TD 13 Int) and he had the Jets in the playoff chase until he got Mono.

This is all my opinion but I have watched both play and they both have a something that I think Cousins is missing. I have watched both play and for young guys they really bring it. I would take either one right now.

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ORIGINAL: bohumm

Sourced reporting from the Vikings beat writer at The Athletic:

"Because of that, speculation has escalated recently that the Vikings might look to trade Cousins. But the Vikings don’t seem to share that sentiment. The team hasn’t made a single call to another team looking to trade Cousins, according to a source. They want to be in contention for a playoff run and believe they have a team that can do that with Cousins at the helm. They don’t want to get worse at quarterback."

Doesn’t say anything about fielding calls.

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I have very little to no problem with Cousins. Especially this year but he's going to be a massive problem moving forward. There are 3 outcomes:

1. You keep him and he eats way too much cap so you can't build around him
2. You extend him which keeps him around longer than I/many want
3. You trade him and bring in a new, similar, problem

No good way out of that last extension.

If the goal is to get rid of Cousins while minimizing the financial impact, then a trade is the only viable option. It would cost the Vikings $10M in dead cap space, but you would save his $21M salary for the year and the following year's balloon payment of $45M. By all means do it, if it is part of a grand plan to get Watson or #1 in the draft.

Don't do it as a cost saving maneuver. If they aren't going to upgrade from Cousins, then they need to restructure him and put a real offensive line in front of him. Whether people want to admit it or not, he is a top 10 QB. He isn't Brady, Mahomes, Wilson, Breeze, Watson or Erin, but he is in the next tier. Put a good team around him and he will win.

I think the only realistic option is if Carolina were to come knocking.

If they were to offer Bridgewater and other compensation it's possible Spiel/Zim would listen.

However, it would be a 20ml cap hit to trade Cousins not 10ml per sportrac.

Bridgewater is due 23ml next season. He can be cut in 2022 with only a 5ml cap hit.

So, if my math is right if we were to trade Cousins for Teddy it would cost us 23+20+5=47ml
That's better than 76ml for 2 more years of Cousins.

The beauty of this is that Carolina might offer maybe the 8th pick which we'd could get QBOTF with but his rookie salary would need to be added to this equation.

The ugly of this is that Carolina is not at all likely to see Cousins as a piece that is going to make them legitimate in 2021.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

If Wilson is feeling he wants to go because he's hit too much, or running for his life, and would accept a trade to Minny, walk away slowly. He's clearly not thinking straight from all the hits.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Spielman fielding calls for Cousins as we speak:

- SF offering Garoppolo, their first (#12 overall), and third

- Carolina offering Bridgewater and the #8 overall

- Seattle offering Wilson and "picks"


Inside sources say Spielman will talk deals only during incoming calls, and calls that he and he alone specifically fielded.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

...Not seriously...

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ORIGINAL: thebigo

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I have very little to no problem with Cousins. Especially this year but he's going to be a massive problem moving forward. There are 3 outcomes:

1. You keep him and he eats way too much cap so you can't build around him
2. You extend him which keeps him around longer than I/many want
3. You trade him and bring in a new, similar, problem

No good way out of that last extension.

If the goal is to get rid of Cousins while minimizing the financial impact, then a trade is the only viable option. It would cost the Vikings $10M in dead cap space, but you would save his $21M salary for the year and the following year's balloon payment of $45M. By all means do it, if it is part of a grand plan to get Watson or #1 in the draft.

Don't do it as a cost saving maneuver. If they aren't going to upgrade from Cousins, then they need to restructure him and put a real offensive line in front of him. Whether people want to admit it or not, he is a top 10 QB. He isn't Brady, Mahomes, Wilson, Breeze, Watson or Erin, but he is in the next tier. Put a good team around him and he will win.

I think the only realistic option is if Carolina were to come knocking.

If they were to offer Bridgewater and other compensation it's possible Spiel/Zim would listen.

However, it would be a 20ml cap hit to trade Cousins not 10ml per sportrac.

Bridgewater is due 23ml next season. He can be cut in 2022 with only a 5ml cap hit.

So, if my math is right if we were to trade Cousins for Teddy it would cost us 23+20+5=47ml
That's better than 76ml for 2 more years of Cousins.

The beauty of this is that Carolina might offer maybe the 8th pick which we'd could get QBOTF with but his rookie salary would need to be added to this equation.

The ugly of this is that Carolina is not at all likely to see Cousins as a piece that is going to make them legitimate in 2021.

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ORIGINAL: ambear

Paul Guenther set to join defensive coaching staff. It's like a museum of old men.