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Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 5:42:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes I didn't find anything recent but I found this quote from Cousins about his approach to contracts in general from Sept 2017: "I prayed about it, and I do believe that the Lord, at least in my life, likes to use one-year contracts and not long-term contracts. He likes to take me to the edge of the Red Sea and have me see there is water in front of me, there are mountains on either side, and there are Egyptians chasing me from behind. And He wants me to sit there for a moment and go, 'God, You better show up.' And then He parts the Red Sea and He's done that time and again in my life, on the football field and off the football field." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2731609-kirk-cousins-says-god-told-him-to-sign-1-year-contract-with-redskins OK wise guy, that's some kind of misdirected link to "The Onion" isn't it! The following link has video of Cousins' Liberty Convocation speech (14:05) https://thecomeback.com/nfl/kirk-cousins-says-god-told-him-not-to-sign-long-term-deal-with-redskins.html 14:05 mark of the Cousins Liberty Convocation video. Here fixed it. https://theonion.com/kirk-cousins-says-god-told-him-not-to-sign-long-term-deal-with-redskins.html its onion worthy. unfortunately.

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 5:51:21 AM)
Hopefully God has told KAM to trade Kirk.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 6:29:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young Omfg… I “hope and pray” that Kirk Cousins 1) does not get any kind of extension. 2) is wanted by some team badly enough to offer at least a mid round fitst or early second for him. 3) the only future “ deal” we make with cousins is a “sign and trade”.. to the packers or lions or bears, guaranteeing we will win the division. 4) DOES NOT GET AN EXTENSION FROM THE VIKINGS!!!! time to move the fuq on from Captain Checkdown. Amen! I pray to be rid of the wannabe weiner who doesn't win. He's neither a winner I can tolerate or a warrior who at least battles. Done.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 7:15:59 AM)
Let's just send Kirk and 15 mil to Carolina. Take the QB they like best @6 and move on.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 7:34:54 AM)
Way to go, Tom! You've got the atheists hoping and praying ...

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 7:35:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty Hopefully God has told KAM to trade Kirk. I would rather trade Cook or Thielen before Kirk. Best play for Kirk is let him play out 2022.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 7:43:05 AM)
Adam Patrick @Str8_Cash_Homey · 14h So @jzulgad, since we’re scheming together to run Kirk Cousins out of town, what should we put out on the internet for people to freak out about next? I was thinking possibly “Washington reportedly sent a fax to Vikings about Kirk Cousins” Should we roll with it?

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 7:46:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: marty Hopefully God has told KAM to trade Kirk. I would rather trade Cook or Thielen before Kirk. Best play for Kirk is let him play out 2022. ...and then what do we do with him?...if we go 9-8 and make the playoffs?...or 13-4 and he wants his $40m/yr?.... if we're going to keep cousins on his present deal, then we might as well extend him for two more years.... i vote for trading him, and using the money and draft picks to make the team better...mond in 2022, and if that doesn't look promising we draft a QB in 2023.... we'll never know what mond brings...at least we'll know that much if we trade cousins and give mond the ball for 2022....

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 8:06:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Way to go, Tom! You've got the atheists hoping and praying ... LOL nice one. To each their own ... I would not criticize someone else's religious beliefs ... or at least I try not to. However, their goofy explanations of a faith-driven financial strategy ... hard to dismiss. Sweet fancy moses, if only he had left out the part about the Egyptians chasing him from behind ... now we know why he curls up in a tight pocket.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 8:08:37 AM)
I don't like doing this but Zone Coverage has a way to create enough space by adding Void years to Kirk...The Pack is doing it too The Packers have created $10.892M in 2022 cap space by restructuring the contract of NT Kenny Clark, per source. Green Bay converted $13.615 of Clark’s 2022 compensation into a signing bonus and added two void years to his deal. Chipping away to create some space...

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 8:09:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Way to go, Tom! You've got the atheists hoping and praying ... LOL nice one. To each their own ... I would not criticize someone else's religious beliefs ... or at least I try not to. However, their goofy explanations of a faith-driven financial strategy ... hard to dismiss. Sweet fancy moses, if only he had left out the part about the Egyptians charging from behind ... now we know why he curls up in a tight pocket. funny - hey, one's gotta watch his six now days for sure ...

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 8:21:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: marty Hopefully God has told KAM to trade Kirk. I would rather trade Cook or Thielen before Kirk. Best play for Kirk is let him play out 2022. I am all for trading Cousins but I don't think we will have a trade partner ... unless the deal includes Cousins + us slapping ourselves in the face several times (ie giving the other team ridiculously good terms and not getting back what we should in return). Which is okay given our cap situation but not how teams should operate. But trade Cousins only if you have a viable replacement strategy that doesn't include parting the Red Sea ... and please don't offer Mond as a viable alternative. Otherwise, you might as well bite the bullet, ship out Cook and Thielen as well and walk into 2023 on an 80M spending spree.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 8:23:23 AM)
I can see that the KC speech is going to give us material for weeks. Even though its 5 years old.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 8:27:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer I don't like doing this but Zone Coverage has a way to create enough space by adding Void years to Kirk...The Pack is doing it too The Packers have created $10.892M in 2022 cap space by restructuring the contract of NT Kenny Clark, per source. Green Bay converted $13.615 of Clark’s 2022 compensation into a signing bonus and added two void years to his deal. Chipping away to create some space... The Packers have the worst cap situation in the league - hallelujah - second only to the Saints. Why would we copy them? Without Rogers they'd stink.

The Happy Norseman -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 8:48:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes I can see that the KC speech is going to give us material for weeks. Even though its 5 years old. "The Lord...likes to use one-year contracts." Good grief. The Vikings brass should have run for the hills as soon as they were made aware of that comment.

kgdabom -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 9:47:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes I didn't find anything recent but I found this quote from Cousins about his approach to contracts in general from Sept 2017: "I prayed about it, and I do believe that the Lord, at least in my life, likes to use one-year contracts and not long-term contracts. He likes to take me to the edge of the Red Sea and have me see there is water in front of me, there are mountains on either side, and there are Egyptians chasing me from behind. And He wants me to sit there for a moment and go, 'God, You better show up.' And then He parts the Red Sea and He's done that time and again in my life, on the football field and off the football field." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2731609-kirk-cousins-says-god-told-him-to-sign-1-year-contract-with-redskins [sm=dillydilly.jpg][sm=party0023.gif]

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 9:53:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer I don't like doing this but Zone Coverage has a way to create enough space by adding Void years to Kirk...The Pack is doing it too The Packers have created $10.892M in 2022 cap space by restructuring the contract of NT Kenny Clark, per source. Green Bay converted $13.615 of Clark’s 2022 compensation into a signing bonus and added two void years to his deal. Chipping away to create some space... The Packers have the worst cap situation in the league - hallelujah - second only to the Saints. Why would we copy them? Without Rogers they'd stink. Not copying the packers or anyone just posting what Zone Coverage discussed: https://zonecoverage.com/2022/minnesota-vikings-news/how-the-vikings-can-fix-the-cap-while-keeping-kirk-cousins/

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 9:54:57 AM)
Perhaps Cousins should set up a Jim Bakker like 1-800 number so we can put our money where our prayers are.

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 10:10:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer I don't like doing this but Zone Coverage has a way to create enough space by adding Void years to Kirk...The Pack is doing it too The Packers have created $10.892M in 2022 cap space by restructuring the contract of NT Kenny Clark, per source. Green Bay converted $13.615 of Clark’s 2022 compensation into a signing bonus and added two void years to his deal. Chipping away to create some space... The Packers have the worst cap situation in the league - hallelujah - second only to the Saints. Why would we copy them? Without Rogers they'd stink. Not copying the packers or anyone just posting what Zone Coverage discussed: https://zonecoverage.com/2022/minnesota-vikings-news/how-the-vikings-can-fix-the-cap-while-keeping-kirk-cousins/ Their plan would have the Vikings with $33 million in dead cap in 2025 just from Hunter and Cousins and another $6 million in dead cap in 2026. Why are so many Vikings fans terrified of having a 6-11 season in 2022 that they'd be willing to sell out an entire upcoming season (2025) so we MIGHT go 9-8 and scratch a playoff berth in 2022? Is it because so few want to admit that Spielman and Zimmer were horseshit at their jobs? Is is some desperate need to show Kirk is "top ten"? I just don't get it. New GM and new coach should be looking to clear the deck and start fresh. There's a reason the jobs they got were available and it was because it was a bad team.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 10:25:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer I don't like doing this but Zone Coverage has a way to create enough space by adding Void years to Kirk...The Pack is doing it too The Packers have created $10.892M in 2022 cap space by restructuring the contract of NT Kenny Clark, per source. Green Bay converted $13.615 of Clark’s 2022 compensation into a signing bonus and added two void years to his deal. Chipping away to create some space... The Packers have the worst cap situation in the league - hallelujah - second only to the Saints. Why would we copy them? Without Rogers they'd stink. Not copying the packers or anyone just posting what Zone Coverage discussed: https://zonecoverage.com/2022/minnesota-vikings-news/how-the-vikings-can-fix-the-cap-while-keeping-kirk-cousins/ Their plan would have the Vikings with $33 million in dead cap in 2025 just from Hunter and Cousins and another $6 million in dead cap in 2026. Why are so many Vikings fans terrified of having a 6-11 season in 2022 that they'd be willing to sell out an entire upcoming season (2025) so we MIGHT go 9-8 and scratch a playoff berth in 2022? Is it because so few want to admit that Spielman and Zimmer were horseshit at their jobs? Is is some desperate need to show Kirk is "top ten"? I just don't get it. New GM and new coach should be looking to clear the deck and start fresh. There's a reason the jobs they got were available and it was because it was a bad team. Because you either go all in or not...you have owners that are willing to go all in. Some are making it all about Kirk; it isn't. You don't have to wreck the cap situation just ride it out for 22. The Offense is ready to go. How many years does Cook, Thielen, Smith, Kendricks, Hunter have? Those are the reasons.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 10:28:37 AM)
Couple of Tommy tweets: Tommy Kramer @Kramer9Tommy Talked to Wade Phillips today,we are both looking forward to what his son can do for the Vikings. 77’ draft, Bum called me and said he was taking me with the 12 pick, Bud ended up taking me at 27. Later Bum told me, dammit Tommy, upper management wouldn’t let me pull the trigger Actually the Packers called me and said they were taking me at 28, Bud took me at 27

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 10:38:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer I don't like doing this but Zone Coverage has a way to create enough space by adding Void years to Kirk...The Pack is doing it too The Packers have created $10.892M in 2022 cap space by restructuring the contract of NT Kenny Clark, per source. Green Bay converted $13.615 of Clark’s 2022 compensation into a signing bonus and added two void years to his deal. Chipping away to create some space... The Packers have the worst cap situation in the league - hallelujah - second only to the Saints. Why would we copy them? Without Rogers they'd stink. Not copying the packers or anyone just posting what Zone Coverage discussed: https://zonecoverage.com/2022/minnesota-vikings-news/how-the-vikings-can-fix-the-cap-while-keeping-kirk-cousins/ Their plan would have the Vikings with $33 million in dead cap in 2025 just from Hunter and Cousins and another $6 million in dead cap in 2026. Why are so many Vikings fans terrified of having a 6-11 season in 2022 that they'd be willing to sell out an entire upcoming season (2025) so we MIGHT go 9-8 and scratch a playoff berth in 2022? Is it because so few want to admit that Spielman and Zimmer were horseshit at their jobs? Is is some desperate need to show Kirk is "top ten"? I just don't get it. New GM and new coach should be looking to clear the deck and start fresh. There's a reason the jobs they got were available and it was because it was a bad team. Because you either go all in or not...you have owners that are willing to go all in. Some are making it all about Kirk; it isn't. You don't have to wreck the cap situation just ride it out for 22. The Offense is ready to go. How many years does Cook, Thielen, Smith, Kendricks, Hunter have? Those are the reasons. You have to have the cards to go all in. Can't bluff your way to a Super Bowl.

Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 10:48:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer I don't like doing this but Zone Coverage has a way to create enough space by adding Void years to Kirk...The Pack is doing it too The Packers have created $10.892M in 2022 cap space by restructuring the contract of NT Kenny Clark, per source. Green Bay converted $13.615 of Clark’s 2022 compensation into a signing bonus and added two void years to his deal. Chipping away to create some space... The Packers have the worst cap situation in the league - hallelujah - second only to the Saints. Why would we copy them? Without Rogers they'd stink. Not copying the packers or anyone just posting what Zone Coverage discussed: https://zonecoverage.com/2022/minnesota-vikings-news/how-the-vikings-can-fix-the-cap-while-keeping-kirk-cousins/ Their plan would have the Vikings with $33 million in dead cap in 2025 just from Hunter and Cousins and another $6 million in dead cap in 2026. Why are so many Vikings fans terrified of having a 6-11 season in 2022 that they'd be willing to sell out an entire upcoming season (2025) so we MIGHT go 9-8 and scratch a playoff berth in 2022? Is it because so few want to admit that Spielman and Zimmer were horseshit at their jobs? Is is some desperate need to show Kirk is "top ten"? I just don't get it. New GM and new coach should be looking to clear the deck and start fresh. There's a reason the jobs they got were available and it was because it was a bad team. Because you either go all in or not...you have owners that are willing to go all in. Some are making it all about Kirk; it isn't. You don't have to wreck the cap situation just ride it out for 22. The Offense is ready to go. How many years does Cook, Thielen, Smith, Kendricks, Hunter have? Those are the reasons. Cincy caught lightning in a bottle. It's possible with new coaching that we could make a run. As far as be worried about dead cap $$$ in 2025, let's worry about that in 2025. Cap might be 300M by then.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 11:33:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer I don't like doing this but Zone Coverage has a way to create enough space by adding Void years to Kirk...The Pack is doing it too The Packers have created $10.892M in 2022 cap space by restructuring the contract of NT Kenny Clark, per source. Green Bay converted $13.615 of Clark’s 2022 compensation into a signing bonus and added two void years to his deal. Chipping away to create some space... The Packers have the worst cap situation in the league - hallelujah - second only to the Saints. Why would we copy them? Without Rogers they'd stink. Not copying the packers or anyone just posting what Zone Coverage discussed: https://zonecoverage.com/2022/minnesota-vikings-news/how-the-vikings-can-fix-the-cap-while-keeping-kirk-cousins/ Their plan would have the Vikings with $33 million in dead cap in 2025 just from Hunter and Cousins and another $6 million in dead cap in 2026. Why are so many Vikings fans terrified of having a 6-11 season in 2022 that they'd be willing to sell out an entire upcoming season (2025) so we MIGHT go 9-8 and scratch a playoff berth in 2022? Is it because so few want to admit that Spielman and Zimmer were horseshit at their jobs? Is is some desperate need to show Kirk is "top ten"? I just don't get it. New GM and new coach should be looking to clear the deck and start fresh. There's a reason the jobs they got were available and it was because it was a bad team. Because you either go all in or not...you have owners that are willing to go all in. Some are making it all about Kirk; it isn't. You don't have to wreck the cap situation just ride it out for 22. The Offense is ready to go. How many years does Cook, Thielen, Smith, Kendricks, Hunter have? Those are the reasons. All in or not? Your plan does neither and is the epitome of the half-assed approach. Kicking massive dead cap to the future while ensuring the current .500 ball.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (2/23/2022 11:38:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer I don't like doing this but Zone Coverage has a way to create enough space by adding Void years to Kirk...The Pack is doing it too The Packers have created $10.892M in 2022 cap space by restructuring the contract of NT Kenny Clark, per source. Green Bay converted $13.615 of Clark’s 2022 compensation into a signing bonus and added two void years to his deal. Chipping away to create some space... The Packers have the worst cap situation in the league - hallelujah - second only to the Saints. Why would we copy them? Without Rogers they'd stink. Not copying the packers or anyone just posting what Zone Coverage discussed: https://zonecoverage.com/2022/minnesota-vikings-news/how-the-vikings-can-fix-the-cap-while-keeping-kirk-cousins/ Their plan would have the Vikings with $33 million in dead cap in 2025 just from Hunter and Cousins and another $6 million in dead cap in 2026. Why are so many Vikings fans terrified of having a 6-11 season in 2022 that they'd be willing to sell out an entire upcoming season (2025) so we MIGHT go 9-8 and scratch a playoff berth in 2022? Is it because so few want to admit that Spielman and Zimmer were horseshit at their jobs? Is is some desperate need to show Kirk is "top ten"? I just don't get it. New GM and new coach should be looking to clear the deck and start fresh. There's a reason the jobs they got were available and it was because it was a bad team. Because you either go all in or not...you have owners that are willing to go all in. Some are making it all about Kirk; it isn't. You don't have to wreck the cap situation just ride it out for 22. The Offense is ready to go. How many years does Cook, Thielen, Smith, Kendricks, Hunter have? Those are the reasons. Cincy caught lightning in a bottle. It's possible with new coaching that we could make a run. As far as be worried about dead cap $$$ in 2025, let's worry about that in 2025. Cap might be 300M by then. That can be said for every team, every year. And of course fans from the teams with new coaches can add that element in to justify.... well, damn near anything.

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