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ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 4:10:30 PM)

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this is real stuff that people in the know are talking about....


JPA Football @jpafootball
Rumors: Players the #Vikings could listen to trade offers for, via
@JasonLaCanfora

WR Adam Thielen
LB Eric Kendricks
DT Michael Pierce
RB Dalvin Cook


The GOAT House@GoatHouseNFL
#Vikings are open to trading veteran players including Dalvin Cook, Adam Thielen, Eric Kendricks and Michael Pierce and it would be a surprise if they didn’t trade away someone, per
@JasonLaCanfora


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Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 4:11:11 PM)

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Wow Rick Sosa...you sure you could let Cousins go for that?

How bold. [&o]


His “opinion” and “take” on possible Vikings dealings carries as much water as cheese cloth..

He is a Vikings website “writer” who has “connections” through the popcorn vendors cousins brother-in-law..

Stream of consciousness word smithing by a website “writer”, has as much validity as my pillow guy “ facts”..

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Rick Sosa@sosarick
About 2,000 likes and 1,000 mentions in the last 24 hours.. I’d say I’m doing pretty good.. or should I say way better than you.


Here is an easy litmus test. Who follows them?

On Twitter I follow all the major Vikings writers for local and national publications, most of the big national NFL guys and a handful of the bigger blogger/website guys.

Almost anyone worth reading will be followed by at least a few of the guys I follow.

Take Arif. Love him or hate him, he's followed by 27 people I follow. Including all of the Minnesota guys (Judd, Tomasson, Scoggins, Wolfson, Schmidt, Jon K, Gleeman, Christensen, etc).

Rick Sosa?

"Not followed by anyone you’re following"

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Rick Sosa@sosarick
I think we should trade the second best QB in the NFC.. for some unknown players out of college.. that sounds like a fantastic idea #Vikings


Are you Rick Sosa?


He might be Keyser Söze.




marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 4:13:53 PM)

Why doesn't LaCanfora's list include QB Kirk Cousins ?




ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 4:14:29 PM)

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Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
Sources: The #Bears are closing in on a trade of star pass-rusher Khalil Mack, sending him to the Los Angeles Chargers for prime draft pick compensation.




ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 4:24:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: marty

Why doesn't LaCanfora's list include QB Kirk Cousins ?



cousins is there, for sure...those four are just some players that people might not expect....

colts have made the call, but nothing to report....




ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 4:24:53 PM)

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Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
The compensation
The #Chargers are sending a 2nd rounder and a 6th rounder in 2023 for Mack. Massive.




David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 4:25:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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this is real stuff that people in the know are talking about....


JPA Football @jpafootball
Rumors: Players the #Vikings could listen to trade offers for, via
@JasonLaCanfora

WR Adam Thielen
LB Eric Kendricks
DT Michael Pierce
RB Dalvin Cook


The GOAT House@GoatHouseNFL
#Vikings are open to trading veteran players including Dalvin Cook, Adam Thielen, Eric Kendricks and Michael Pierce and it would be a surprise if they didn’t trade away someone, per
@JasonLaCanfora


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Well they'll need to trade one or more of those guys or they'll end up cutting one or more. We're still $15 million over the cap. Extending Cousins can't cure that entire problem. Extending Cousins AND Hunter cures it - for now - but pushes problems down the road. If I'm Kwesi I'd be unwilling to double down on either one of those guys.




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 4:32:54 PM)

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Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
The compensation
The #Chargers are sending a 2nd rounder and a 6th rounder in 2023 for Mack. Massive.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

In 2018, the Bears sent two first-round picks, a third-rounder, and a sixth-rounder in exchange for Mack, a second-rounder, and a conditional pick that became a seventh-rounder.

Bears had one year in 4 with a winning record and no playoff wins.




Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 4:34:33 PM)

Depending on how many trades shake out the only thing we'll be competitive in is fighting for a top 5 pick in 2023.

Talks to the vets and team leaders about what kind of leadership they're looking for. Hires those types then ushers those players out the door.

I mean i get that this team would eventually reflect their vision vs the old one but I didn't expect it right away.




ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 4:38:52 PM)

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regarding a place for cousins....


Phil Mackey 🎙@PhilMackey
These teams all still need QBs - or are reportedly not sold on their incumbents:

Colts ($69 mil cap space)
Steelers ($29 mil)
Panthers ($26 mil)
Seahawks ($42 mil)
Bucs (-$10 mil)
49ers (-$4.5 mil)
Browns ($18 mil)
Dolphins ($51 mil)
Saints (-$33 mil)




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 4:51:43 PM)

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regarding a place for cousins....


Phil Mackey 🎙@PhilMackey
These teams all still need QBs - or are reportedly not sold on their incumbents:

Colts ($69 mil cap space)
Steelers ($29 mil)
Panthers ($26 mil)
Seahawks ($42 mil)
Bucs (-$10 mil)
49ers (-$4.5 mil)
Browns ($18 mil)
Dolphins ($51 mil)
Saints (-$33 mil)


Cousins for Tua Tagovailoa.

Done.




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 4:53:14 PM)

Aaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL
Former Minnesota Vikings corner and first-round draft pick Jeff Gladney was found not guilty Thursday by a jury after being indicted last year by a grand jury in Dallas on a felony charge after a female acquaintance alleged he assaulted her @PFN365




Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 5:15:54 PM)

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Why doesn't LaCanfora's list include QB Kirk Cousins ?

Because 1 yr at 45M guaranteed makes him untradeable.




The Happy Norseman -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 5:21:40 PM)

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regarding a place for cousins....


Phil Mackey 🎙@PhilMackey
These teams all still need QBs - or are reportedly not sold on their incumbents:

Colts ($69 mil cap space)
Steelers ($29 mil)
Panthers ($26 mil)
Seahawks ($42 mil)
Bucs (-$10 mil)
49ers (-$4.5 mil)
Browns ($18 mil)
Dolphins ($51 mil)
Saints (-$33 mil)


The Colts make a lot of sense. THey're built to win now, have no QB, and have tons of cap space. Cousins + $6 mil for the Colts 2023 1st rounder doesn't sound crazy. Basically, the Colts flip Wentz for Cousins and a 1st rounder, and their cap is the same as if they had kept Wentz.




Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 6:40:00 PM)

Starting to wonder if the new regime is aware of what time of year it is.

They have some serious work to do regarding Cousins, Hunter, and you know get cap compliant.




Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 7:31:24 PM)

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regarding a place for cousins....


Phil Mackey 🎙@PhilMackey
These teams all still need QBs - or are reportedly not sold on their incumbents:

Colts ($69 mil cap space)
Steelers ($29 mil)
Panthers ($26 mil)
Seahawks ($42 mil)
Bucs (-$10 mil)
49ers (-$4.5 mil)
Browns ($18 mil)
Dolphins ($51 mil)
Saints (-$33 mil)


The Colts make a lot of sense. THey're built to win now, have no QB, and have tons of cap space. Cousins + $6 mil for the Colts 2023 1st rounder doesn't sound crazy. Basically, the Colts flip Wentz for Cousins and a 1st rounder, and their cap is the same as if they had kept Wentz.

But ... then ...they would have ... Cousins.




Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/10/2022 10:20:47 PM)

Which will make them mediocre.. a step up from abysmal..




Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/11/2022 1:11:23 AM)

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Which will make them mediocre.. a step up from abysmal..

Yes, my point.

If you're the Colts, why haggle over first round picks and millions of dollars to not move forward.




ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/11/2022 1:21:43 AM)

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Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
Former #Vikings first-round CB Jeff Gladney was just found not guilty of assaulting a woman in Dallas County Court. He was charged with assault by impeding breathe and releaased by Minnesota quickly thereafter. Today, found not guilty.




ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/11/2022 1:46:30 AM)

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Aaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL
Former Minnesota Vikings corner and first-round draft pick Jeff Gladney was found not guilty Thursday by a jury after being indicted last year by a grand jury in Dallas on a felony charge after a female acquaintance alleged he assaulted her @PFN365



i wonder if there are any league rules about 'players' rights' for the drafting team?....there should be - we should file a grievance with the league....




David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/11/2022 4:59:26 AM)

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Aaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL
Former Minnesota Vikings corner and first-round draft pick Jeff Gladney was found not guilty Thursday by a jury after being indicted last year by a grand jury in Dallas on a felony charge after a female acquaintance alleged he assaulted her @PFN365



i wonder if there are any league rules about 'players' rights' for the drafting team?....there should be - we should file a grievance with the league....


Why? We weren’t forced to cut him.




ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/11/2022 6:09:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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Aaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL
Former Minnesota Vikings corner and first-round draft pick Jeff Gladney was found not guilty Thursday by a jury after being indicted last year by a grand jury in Dallas on a felony charge after a female acquaintance alleged he assaulted her @PFN365



i wonder if there are any league rules about 'players' rights' for the drafting team?....there should be - we should file a grievance with the league....


Why? We weren’t forced to cut him.



i understand that, but it seems that the commissioner's exempt list is somewhat arbitrary and i wonder if the league had recommended that we cut gladney....

it seems that the vikings did what was better for the NFL, the league as a whole, and i don't think they shouldn't be punished for that....




Pauldiercks1 -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/11/2022 6:46:25 AM)

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Aaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL
Former Minnesota Vikings corner and first-round draft pick Jeff Gladney was found not guilty Thursday by a jury after being indicted last year by a grand jury in Dallas on a felony charge after a female acquaintance alleged he assaulted her @PFN365



i wonder if there are any league rules about 'players' rights' for the drafting team?....there should be - we should file a grievance with the league....


Why? We weren’t forced to cut him.



i understand that, but it seems that the commissioner's exempt list is somewhat arbitrary and i wonder if the league had recommended that we cut gladney....

it seems that the vikings did what was better for the NFL, the league as a whole, and i don't think they shouldn't be punished for that....


Are you overthinking this because you want him back?




ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/11/2022 7:17:06 AM)

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Aaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL
Former Minnesota Vikings corner and first-round draft pick Jeff Gladney was found not guilty Thursday by a jury after being indicted last year by a grand jury in Dallas on a felony charge after a female acquaintance alleged he assaulted her @PFN365



i wonder if there are any league rules about 'players' rights' for the drafting team?....there should be - we should file a grievance with the league....


Why? We weren’t forced to cut him.



i understand that, but it seems that the commissioner's exempt list is somewhat arbitrary and i wonder if the league had recommended that we cut gladney....

it seems that the vikings did what was better for the NFL, the league as a whole, and i don't think they shouldn't be punished for that....


Are you overthinking this because you want him back?


Yes, I’d take him back




Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (3/11/2022 7:18:05 AM)

I smell moves in the air.




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