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joejitsu -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/27/2022 11:34:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M Place is dead. Bill still finds space to be a passive aggressive dink. [&o] Brand new season with nothing but promise ahead. Ain't no darkening my skies. [sm=cool1.gif] I'm waiting to see if the 3-4 hybrid, simplified scheme will improve our defense in any major way. It was awful to watch us give up points at the end of halves last year.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/27/2022 11:38:11 AM)
Phillips was another oft-injured, relatively big signing. Hunter was renegotiated. And a couple of others, all covered earlier. Their health, performance, etc. can be assessed in a couple of years. As for Williams, we don't know if health was the reason for not selecting Williams. It seems it was more about trading the pick to get additional but lesser picks.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/27/2022 11:38:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M Place is dead. Bill still finds space to be a passive aggressive dink. [&o] Brand new season with nothing but promise ahead. Ain't no darkening my skies. [sm=cool1.gif] Couple of Camp days away from having news left and right.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/27/2022 11:41:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joejitsu quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M Place is dead. Bill still finds space to be a passive aggressive dink. [&o] Brand new season with nothing but promise ahead. Ain't no darkening my skies. [sm=cool1.gif] I'm waiting to see if the 3-4 hybrid, simplified scheme will improve our defense in any major way. It was awful to watch us give up points at the end of halves last year. Still trying to ascertain how much the 3-4 will be used. A post a while back said they'll used 3-4 and 4-3. Seems like a lot for mainly the front 7 to learn.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/27/2022 12:13:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty Kwesi passed on a 1st round WR in Williams that had recently been injured, traded back. Then traded up in the 2nd round for a CB (Booth Jr.) that had recently been injured. Major FA signing was an oft injured Packer, Smith. I think Kwesi did a good job while being handcuffed with negative resources ... Yes many of the players we've kept and brought in have a 'poised to return to full health' label. Which is more of a gamble than normal wear and tear stuff. I have no problem with shopping the one-winged poultry aisle, if that's all you can afford. Hopefully a little training camp marinade will get those things flying and swooping like three-winged chickens.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/27/2022 5:40:18 PM)
It's settled, Cousins is a "good" quarterback. And $81,166,668 to play for the next two years is, apparently, "good" money.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 8:04:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen It's settled, Cousins is a "good" quarterback. And $81,166,668 to play for the next two years is, apparently, "good" money. I also like statements like that which come w/o alternatives. [&o]

TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 8:44:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen It's settled, Cousins is a "good" quarterback. And $81,166,668 to play for the next two years is, apparently, "good" money. I also like statements like that which come w/o alternatives. [&o] Cousins is tied for the 9th highest paid QB in the league. The QB's right behind him and making almost as much money are Jared Goff and Carson Wentz. It's the market rate for a QB like Cousins. Some people can't get over it.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 9:20:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen It's settled, Cousins is a "good" quarterback. And $81,166,668 to play for the next two years is, apparently, "good" money. I also like statements like that which come w/o alternatives. [&o] Go back to sleep Rip.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 9:21:29 AM)
"(The Super Bowl) is more likely to win if you have that quarterback" *** Did Kwesi really say it like that?

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 9:26:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen It's settled, Cousins is a "good" quarterback. And $81,166,668 to play for the next two years is, apparently, "good" money. I also like statements like that which come w/o alternatives. [&o] Cousins is tied for the 9th highest paid QB in the league. The QB's right behind him and making almost as much money are Jared Goff and Carson Wentz. It's the market rate for a QB like Cousins. Some people can't get over it. The eight-figure amount of dead money he will get to not play football puts him higher, and distances him from your cherry-picked two QBs signed by directionless teams.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 9:33:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M "(The Super Bowl) is more likely to win if you have that quarterback" *** Did Kwesi really say it like that? If Zimmer said that, he'd be fried here. Or maybe StarTrek can jump in and say Kwesi hasn't been here long enough to make that assessment [&:][&:][&:]

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 9:33:36 AM)
Adofo-Mensah said. “I don’t believe that I can pick the next Pat Mahomes that much better than anybody." *** "That much" For sure better though. Than anybody.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 9:37:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M "(The Super Bowl) is more likely to win if you have that quarterback" *** Did Kwesi really say it like that? If Zimmer said that, he'd be fried here. Or maybe StarTrek can jump in and say Kwesi hasn't been here long enough to make that assessment [&:][&:][&:] I've only seen the quote in print. Seems like AI taking a stab at being football smart.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 9:38:20 AM)
I like Tony Kornheiser's answer on PTI to the question "How should Kirk Cousins feel about GM Adofo-Mensah's remarks?" "He should feel RICH." [&:]

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 9:47:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen It's settled, Cousins is a "good" quarterback. And $81,166,668 to play for the next two years is, apparently, "good" money. I also like statements like that which come w/o alternatives. [&o] Go back to sleep Rip. Your bitching does make me tired. So again what was the alternative? Similar to signing Hicks and Phillips to shore up the defense....we would always love to see your alternatives which you never provide.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 9:47:08 AM)
I also liked the recent visit with the Cousins Zimmer Detroit incident. I believe it just as Leber's account of it. And our season was literally done then. What was that...week 5? I don't think a team can overcome that much division at the top. No way Mike and Kirk continued their weekly film session from that point. The newly implemented one at that. It literally could never work. Cousins forced on Zimmer changed our trajectory. Man Zimmer was ready to throw down though and some people knew it. Of all the things that bugged me about Zimmer...that's funnily enough not on my list.

Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 10:38:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M I also liked the recent visit with the Cousins Zimmer Detroit incident. I believe it just as Leber's account of it. And our season was literally done then. What was that...week 5? I don't think a team can overcome that much division at the top. No way Mike and Kirk continued their weekly film session from that point. The newly implemented one at that. It literally could never work. Cousins forced on Zimmer changed our trajectory. Man Zimmer was ready to throw down though and some people knew it. Of all the things that bugged me about Zimmer...that's funnily enough not on my list. I'm pretty excited about this new staff. I used to be a Zimmer apologist and rail on the new era guys. But, the success they(new era guys) have is proof that we were a sinking ship with the old rigid coaching.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 10:56:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen It's settled, Cousins is a "good" quarterback. And $81,166,668 to play for the next two years is, apparently, "good" money. I also like statements like that which come w/o alternatives. [&o] Go back to sleep Rip. Your bitching does make me tired. So again what was the alternative? Similar to signing Hicks and Phillips to shore up the defense....we would always love to see your alternatives which you never provide. What don't you like about my two facts, the first being a quote from Kwesi, the second being contract numbers? Did I say he needed to go and we needed to seek an alternative? Do tell...

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 11:16:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen It's settled, Cousins is a "good" quarterback. And $81,166,668 to play for the next two years is, apparently, "good" money. I also like statements like that which come w/o alternatives. [&o] Go back to sleep Rip. Your bitching does make me tired. So again what was the alternative? Similar to signing Hicks and Phillips to shore up the defense....we would always love to see your alternatives which you never provide. What don't you like about my two facts, the first being a quote from Kwesi, the second being contract numbers? Did I say he needed to go and we needed to seek an alternative? Do tell... HOF QB on a rookie contract; is that your alternative? I am sure any GM would love that. So your alternative is to post a Kwesi tweet that every GM would love to have....gotcha. [:-]

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 12:13:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen It's settled, Cousins is a "good" quarterback. And $81,166,668 to play for the next two years is, apparently, "good" money. I also like statements like that which come w/o alternatives. [&o] Go back to sleep Rip. Your bitching does make me tired. So again what was the alternative? Similar to signing Hicks and Phillips to shore up the defense....we would always love to see your alternatives which you never provide. What don't you like about my two facts, the first being a quote from Kwesi, the second being contract numbers? Did I say he needed to go and we needed to seek an alternative? Do tell... HOF QB on a rookie contract; is that your alternative? I am sure any GM would love that. So your alternative is to post a Kwesi tweet that every GM would love to have....gotcha. [:-] So you are up in arms about my post that had just a single word from Kwesi and, to compare & contrast, the contract he negotiated? Then you say I posted a Kwesi tweet, which of course is wrong. We know comprehension isn't your strong suit, but try to keep up.

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 12:25:07 PM)
. . booth, yesterday.... https://twitter.com/Vikings/status/1552450765297516546

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 12:30:56 PM)
Yep, just a few posts back someone else posted about the Kwesi tweet referring to Phil's "HOF QB on a rookie contract" that he said I posted. Folks, Phil has had a busy and particularly brutal morning in the Political threads, and when that happens he often miss-assigns posts because he gets overwhelmed.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 12:37:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . . booth, yesterday.... https://twitter.com/Vikings/status/1552450765297516546 Not crowning him, but Booth is a CB I wanted pre-draft like in some sort of trade down-trade up scenario. He and a couple of others, but mainly him.

TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (7/28/2022 12:54:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen It's settled, Cousins is a "good" quarterback. And $81,166,668 to play for the next two years is, apparently, "good" money. I also like statements like that which come w/o alternatives. [&o] Cousins is tied for the 9th highest paid QB in the league. The QB's right behind him and making almost as much money are Jared Goff and Carson Wentz. It's the market rate for a QB like Cousins. Some people can't get over it. The eight-figure amount of dead money he will get to not play football puts him higher, and distances him from your cherry-picked two QBs signed by directionless teams. Cherry picked? They were the next two guys on the list. The Vikings have 7 players on the payroll with eight-figures in dead money. Why cherry pick Cousins' contract? In any case, that's a pointless argument. Why are you grinding on the dead money amount for a player you aren't going to cut?

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