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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I really liked Zim

But he was a terrible HC

If you want longevity you have to keep everyone buying in. Pete Carrol has done it but Zim flat out threw in the towel. The fact that the Wilf's ext both Zim and Rick really exposed them as complete idiots in my eyes.

Their extension made zero sense, NONE.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: ronhextall

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

I really liked Zim

But he was a terrible HC

If you want longevity you have to keep everyone buying in. Pete Carrol has done it but Zim flat out threw in the towel. The fact that the Wilf's ext both Zim and Rick really exposed them as complete idiots in my eyes.

Their extension made zero sense, NONE.

Was the extention after the NFCCG against Philly?

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

The "he piles up the stats" bs irritates the life out of me.
It suggests he cares more about completion percentage than a win, more than a SB. That just ain't the case.

All we really can do is see what this coach can do v. tbe other staffs - which I think were horse shit

And I'll say it again for the 17th time, 'Cousins couldnt even call a crucial TO bc grandpa wouldnt allow it.

He gets blasted cause hes not a leader but tell me which one of our great NFL QB leaders couldn't even call a TO bc of the F coach ... we are so happy for - happy he's gone, but I say that we love and good will

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

The "he piles up the stats" bs irritates the life out of me.
It suggests he cares more about completion percentage than a win, more than a SB. That just ain't the case.

All we really can do is see what this coach can do v. tbe other staffs - which I think were horse shit

And I'll say it again for the 17th time, 'Cousins couldnt even call a crucial TO bc grandpa wouldnt allow it.

He gets blasted cause hes not a leader but tell me which one of our great NFL QB leaders couldn't even call a TO bc of the F coach ... we are so happy for - happy he's gone, but I say that we love and good will

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

The "he piles up the stats" bs irritates the life out of me.
It suggests he cares more about completion percentage than a win, more than a SB. That just ain't the case.

All we really can do is see what this coach can do v. tbe other staffs - which I think were horse shit

And I'll say it again for the 17th time, 'Cousins couldnt even call a crucial TO bc grandpa wouldnt allow it.

He gets blasted cause hes not a leader but tell me which one of our great NFL QB leaders couldn't even call a TO bc of the F coach ... we are so happy for - happy he's gone, but I say that we love and good will

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ORIGINAL: David F.

I'm excited to see if Cousins can bring a new brand of football to the field this fall. Maybe Zimmer had him by the balls - who knows? Kirk should have had the courage to overrule Zimmer and use his competitive instincts. Kirk had a mega-contract with guaranteed money - if anyone was gonna go it was Zimmer. I'm not buying it but I'll still hold out hope that he comes out more assertive this year. Zimmer was quoted as saying he wished Cousins would take more chances and I watched Kirk throw a check down with less than a minute to go at home against the Browns. I also watched him throw a ball out of the back of the end zone on 4th down. I also watched him line up under the right guard near the goal line with precious few seconds left in the half. He's made some great throws too - but here's the thing - I EXPECT to see some great throws - MANY great throws.

I guess we'll see.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

The "he piles up the stats" bs irritates the life out of me.
It suggests he cares more about completion percentage than a win, more than a SB. That just ain't the case.

All we really can do is see what this coach can do v. tbe other staffs - which I think were horse shit

And I'll say it again for the 17th time, 'Cousins couldnt even call a crucial TO bc grandpa wouldnt allow it.

He gets blasted cause hes not a leader but tell me which one of our great NFL QB leaders couldn't even call a TO bc of the F coach ... we are so happy for - happy he's gone, but I say that we love and good will

Great leaders aren't handcuffed by stupid HCs. If their coach told them they were not empowered to call TOs, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre, Fran Tarkenton, John Elway, Aaron Rodgers, etc etc etc etc etc etc would have told their coach to **** off, demanded a trade and dominated somewhere else.

If he was a great leader he would have stood up to that dumbassery. Not complied with it.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

The "he piles up the stats" bs irritates the life out of me.
It suggests he cares more about completion percentage than a win, more than a SB. That just ain't the case.

All we really can do is see what this coach can do v. tbe other staffs - which I think were horse shit

And I'll say it again for the 17th time, 'Cousins couldnt even call a crucial TO bc grandpa wouldnt allow it.

He gets blasted cause hes not a leader but tell me which one of our great NFL QB leaders couldn't even call a TO bc of the F coach ... we are so happy for - happy he's gone, but I say that we love and good will

Great leaders aren't handcuffed by stupid HCs. If their coach told them they were not empowered to call TOs, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre, Fran Tarkenton, John Elway, Aaron Rodgers, etc etc etc etc etc etc would have told their coach to **** off, demanded a trade and dominated somewhere else.

If he was a great leader he would have stood up to that dumbassery. Not complied with it.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

The "he piles up the stats" bs irritates the life out of me.
It suggests he cares more about completion percentage than a win, more than a SB. That just ain't the case.

All we really can do is see what this coach can do v. tbe other staffs - which I think were horse shit

And I'll say it again for the 17th time, 'Cousins couldnt even call a crucial TO bc grandpa wouldnt allow it.

He gets blasted cause hes not a leader but tell me which one of our great NFL QB leaders couldn't even call a TO bc of the F coach ... we are so happy for - happy he's gone, but I say that we love and good will

Does KC care more about stats than winning? Of course not. That's just people venting about the lopsided nature of his inflated stats vs his .500 career arc.

Is the 10 yr .500 winning % all his fault? Of course not. Most of that indicates the circumstances of team and coaching staff.

But ... the QB position is uniquely qualified to affect the outcome of games. And Cousins has simply not gotten it done.

If he were grittier, more aggressive, less quiet and docile ... less bambi and more godzilla (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERBH1yUZaMU) ...

we'd be in business.

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ORIGINAL: stfrank

Case Keenum has no where near the physical ability that Cousins has when it comes to throwing the ball and he took us further in the playoffs than Kirk has ever been. Why did Case do better than KC ever has? I think it's because he was flat out a baller......he wasn't afraid to take a chance or make a mistake. Kirk is all about running the play dictated by the play call or the proper check down, if it doesn't work oh well. Kirk has no gun slinger mentality in his make up. He just is what he is, like it or not.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

The "he piles up the stats" bs irritates the life out of me.
It suggests he cares more about completion percentage than a win, more than a SB. That just ain't the case.

All we really can do is see what this coach can do v. tbe other staffs - which I think were horse shit

And I'll say it again for the 17th time, 'Cousins couldnt even call a crucial TO bc grandpa wouldnt allow it.

He gets blasted cause hes not a leader but tell me which one of our great NFL QB leaders couldn't even call a TO bc of the F coach ... we are so happy for - happy he's gone, but I say that we love and good will

Great leaders aren't handcuffed by stupid HCs. If their coach told them they were not empowered to call TOs, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre, Fran Tarkenton, John Elway, Aaron Rodgers, etc etc etc etc etc etc would have told their coach to **** off, demanded a trade and dominated somewhere else.

If he was a great leader he would have stood up to that dumbassery. Not complied with it.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Personality-wise, Zimmer reminded me of the new coach Notre Dame brought in prior to Rudy's last season in the movie Rudy. Game-strategy-wise, I'll forever remember him as the guy that would only rush four (or sometimes three) on the most crucial third and fourth downs of his career. The play where Willie Snead caught a ball for a first down after Drew Brees had two hours to wait for a receiver to get open on the series just before the Minneapolis Miracle. The players will likely remember him as the guy that wouldn't even acknowledge them if they walked past each other in a hallway. You know, those entitled, overpaid, baby, pro athletes that thought their coach should say 'hi' every once in a while. Zimmer was garbage.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

The "he piles up the stats" bs irritates the life out of me.
It suggests he cares more about completion percentage than a win, more than a SB. That just ain't the case.

All we really can do is see what this coach can do v. tbe other staffs - which I think were horse shit

And I'll say it again for the 17th time, 'Cousins couldnt even call a crucial TO bc grandpa wouldnt allow it.

He gets blasted cause hes not a leader but tell me which one of our great NFL QB leaders couldn't even call a TO bc of the F coach ... we are so happy for - happy he's gone, but I say that we love and good will

Does KC care more about stats than winning? Of course not. That's just people venting about the lopsided nature of his inflated stats vs his .500 career arc.

Is the 10 yr .500 winning % all his fault? Of course not. Most of that indicates the circumstances of team and coaching staff.

But ... the QB position is uniquely qualified to affect the outcome of games. And Cousins has simply not gotten it done.

If he were grittier, more aggressive, less quiet and docile ... less bambi and more godzilla (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERBH1yUZaMU) ...

we'd be in business.

Noticed you weaved in not one but two .500 regular season references.

But beyond the postseason, after ten years in the NFL isn't he 1-3 in the playoffs? So should the key stat be he is .250 in the playoffs? Or that he provides a .100 chance of a single playoff win per year (on average)? Or simply one playoff win per decade.

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push KC out if his comfort zone with creativity, as opposed to the hammer and tong used by Zim.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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push KC out if his comfort zone with creativity, as opposed to the hammer and tong used by Zim.

I like this thought.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

I think we're going to come out of the gate sizzling hot.

I want to see our backups in the 4th qtr not our backs up against the wall.

Throttle down until the opposing team knows its over.