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Phil Riewer -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:32:04 PM)

Getting Booth was a nice pick.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:32:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

So we went from
a 1st, 2nd, a 3rd and NO 4th
to
a 1st, 2 2nds, a 3rd and a 4th

If picks pan out... I'd have to say despite my misgivings it might just work out

Really depends on how good Willams and Watson do for me...


As long as you like trading, on the whole, quality for quantity.

And wow, people are ignoring where in the round the picks are. Spielman conditioned you!




kgdabom -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:32:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

Getting Booth was a nice pick.

IMO a very nice pick. I trust the Vikings judgment regarding his health.




bohumm -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:35:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

so we gave them 53 and a third and a 6th, but got 42 and a 4th rd pick...

not sure of numbers

Basically turned 34, 77, and 192 into Booth, 59, and 122. That is a massive W.




Phil Riewer -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:36:13 PM)

I would trade down again




beo -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:37:32 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

So we went from
a 1st, 2nd, a 3rd and NO 4th
to
a 1st, 2 2nds, a 3rd and a 4th

If picks pan out... I'd have to say despite my misgivings it might just work out

Really depends on how good Willams and Watson do for me...


As long as you like trading, on the whole, quality for quantity.

And wow, people are ignoring where in the round the picks are. Spielman conditioned you!


We are picking HIGHER in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round than originally slated...
AND added a 2nd rounder

Yes, the 1st was a big price...

But it could work out.




kgdabom -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:39:11 PM)

I'm hoping for Nakobe Dean with our next pick. Load up on that Georgia defense.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:39:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

So we went from
a 1st, 2nd, a 3rd and NO 4th
to
a 1st, 2 2nds, a 3rd and a 4th

If picks pan out... I'd have to say despite my misgivings it might just work out

Really depends on how good Willams and Watson do for me...


As long as you like trading, on the whole, quality for quantity.

And wow, people are ignoring where in the round the picks are. Spielman conditioned you!


We are picking HIGHER in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round than originally slated...
AND added a 2nd rounder

Yes, the 1st was a big price...

But it could work out.


Since we're now using capitals, yes the first was a BIG price.




kgdabom -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:40:30 PM)

Pickens gone. OUCH!!!!!!!!!!




Bill Johanesen -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:41:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

so we gave them 53 and a third and a 6th, but got 42 and a 4th rd pick...

not sure of numbers

Basically turned 34, 77, and 192 into Booth, 59, and 122. That is a massive W.



You can't cherry pick part of trades and claim massive wins.

Well, I guess you can.




Chris Olson -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:41:55 PM)

shit, i wanted jurgens at 59




Karl Juhnke -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:42:15 PM)

Kwesi making Spielman look like a stand pat kind of guy.

I’m mobile now and can’t even begin to wrap my head around if we’re winning or losing the draft war.




kgdabom -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:43:04 PM)

Cameron Jurgens also gone. Ouch again.




beo -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:44:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

So we went from
a 1st, 2nd, a 3rd and NO 4th
to
a 1st, 2 2nds, a 3rd and a 4th

If picks pan out... I'd have to say despite my misgivings it might just work out

Really depends on how good Willams and Watson do for me...


As long as you like trading, on the whole, quality for quantity.

And wow, people are ignoring where in the round the picks are. Spielman conditioned you!


We are picking HIGHER in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round than originally slated...
AND added a 2nd rounder

Yes, the 1st was a big price...

But it could work out.


Since we're now using capitals, yes the first was a BIG price.


I would have taken Jameson Williams...
After that I would have taken Watkins...
doesn't mean there can't be another path to success.




bohumm -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:44:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

so we gave them 53 and a third and a 6th, but got 42 and a 4th rd pick...

not sure of numbers

Basically turned 34, 77, and 192 into Booth, 59, and 122. That is a massive W.

If you like Booth at 34, then it's basically 77 for 59 and 192 for 122. If you don't like that, there is no hope for you.

You could even say Hamilton, 46, 77, and 192 for Cine, Booth, 59, and 122. Comes down to the delta between Hamilton and Cine. If it's huge in favor of Hamilton, volume and move ups might not even out. But if it's close or Cine is better, the Vikings have made out huge so far.




bohumm -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:45:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

so we gave them 53 and a third and a 6th, but got 42 and a 4th rd pick...

not sure of numbers

Basically turned 34, 77, and 192 into Booth, 59, and 122. That is a massive W.



You can't cherry pick part of trades and claim massive wins.

Well, I guess you can.

See the more comprehensive above, though we're still not done.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:48:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

So we went from
a 1st, 2nd, a 3rd and NO 4th
to
a 1st, 2 2nds, a 3rd and a 4th

If picks pan out... I'd have to say despite my misgivings it might just work out

Really depends on how good Willams and Watson do for me...


As long as you like trading, on the whole, quality for quantity.

And wow, people are ignoring where in the round the picks are. Spielman conditioned you!


We are picking HIGHER in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round than originally slated...
AND added a 2nd rounder

Yes, the 1st was a big price...

But it could work out.


Since we're now using capitals, yes the first was a BIG price.


I would have taken Jameson Williams...
After that I would have taken Watkins...
doesn't mean there can't be another path to success.


You increase paths to success by first getting equal or better value for the trade. Specific players are a separate issue.




Chris Olson -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:49:20 PM)

can't believe Nakobe Dean is still on board




kgdabom -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:49:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: beo

So we went from
a 1st, 2nd, a 3rd and NO 4th
to
a 1st, 2 2nds, a 3rd and a 4th

If picks pan out... I'd have to say despite my misgivings it might just work out

Really depends on how good Willams and Watson do for me...


As long as you like trading, on the whole, quality for quantity.

And wow, people are ignoring where in the round the picks are. Spielman conditioned you!


We are picking HIGHER in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round than originally slated...
AND added a 2nd rounder

Yes, the 1st was a big price...

But it could work out.


Since we're now using capitals, yes the first was a BIG price.


I would have taken Jameson Williams...
After that I would have taken Watkins...
doesn't mean there can't be another path to success.

It's clear the Vikings weren't interested in using those picks for a WR. However, trading those picks for those WRs could haunt us.




kgdabom -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:50:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

can't believe Nakobe Dean is still on board

He's who I want now.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:53:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

so we gave them 53 and a third and a 6th, but got 42 and a 4th rd pick...

not sure of numbers

Basically turned 34, 77, and 192 into Booth, 59, and 122. That is a massive W.

If you like Booth at 34, then it's basically 77 for 59 and 192 for 122. If you don't like that, there is no hope for you.

You could even say Hamilton, 46, 77, and 192 for Cine, Booth, 59, and 122. Comes down to the delta between Hamilton and Cine. If it's huge in favor of Hamilton, volume and move ups might not even out. But if it's close or Cine is better, the Vikings have made out huge so far.


No, introducing false narratives like Hamilton has nothing to do with the picks involved in a trade.

But if you must, last time I checked Cine was passed over by every team in the 1st except us. Hamilton wasn't.




Dana Turner -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:55:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

so we gave them 53 and a third and a 6th, but got 42 and a 4th rd pick...

not sure of numbers

Basically turned 34, 77, and 192 into Booth, 59, and 122. That is a massive W.

If you like Booth at 34, then it's basically 77 for 59 and 192 for 122. If you don't like that, there is no hope for you.

You could even say Hamilton, 46, 77, and 192 for Cine, Booth, 59, and 122. Comes down to the delta between Hamilton and Cine. If it's huge in favor of Hamilton, volume and move ups might not even out. But if it's close or Cine is better, the Vikings have made out huge so far.


No, introducing false narratives like Hamilton has nothing to do with the picks involved in a trade.

But if you must, last time I checked Cine was passed over by every team in the 1st except us. Hamilton wasn't.



Yep, and 198 guys were picked before the guy that will go down in history as the GOAT, Brady, so, there's that.......




kgdabom -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:55:54 PM)

2 picks away from getting Nakobe Dean.




Bill Johanesen -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 7:59:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dana Turner

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: bohumm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris Olson

so we gave them 53 and a third and a 6th, but got 42 and a 4th rd pick...

not sure of numbers

Basically turned 34, 77, and 192 into Booth, 59, and 122. That is a massive W.

If you like Booth at 34, then it's basically 77 for 59 and 192 for 122. If you don't like that, there is no hope for you.

You could even say Hamilton, 46, 77, and 192 for Cine, Booth, 59, and 122. Comes down to the delta between Hamilton and Cine. If it's huge in favor of Hamilton, volume and move ups might not even out. But if it's close or Cine is better, the Vikings have made out huge so far.


No, introducing false narratives like Hamilton has nothing to do with the picks involved in a trade.

But if you must, last time I checked Cine was passed over by every team in the 1st except us. Hamilton wasn't.



Yep, and 198 guys were picked before the guy that will go down in history as the GOAT, Brady, so, there's that.......


Let me know when that's repeated... in the meantime keep clinging and I hope you can load up on 6th rounders.




kgdabom -> RE: 2022 NFL draft (4/29/2022 8:00:45 PM)

One pick away from Nakobe Dean.




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