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HL OSWALD -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 7:17:35 PM)
Whoopin is one thing but being exposed is totally another... Play off teams dont fear an opposing QB that when punched in mouth withers and curls up in fetal position... Teams in contention now have a blueprint and anyone with the weapons on D will ALWAYS exploit Kirk if he gets in that position... An aberration from the norm will only get you high hopes that crash down in bright lights with KFC... Same old shit... till he is gone we are in a living hell of ALMOST good enough...

ambear -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 7:18:36 PM)
Tough loss. Time to see how they respond. A short week might help.

ronhextall -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 7:32:13 PM)
Fox Radio had a betting specialist on or some kind of talking head. Point differential is reflective of a 5-4 team and basically said eventually that is what determines what kind of team you are. Said a couple teams basically lost games to Vikings vs the Vikings winning them. It’s all depressing. Thursday isn’t a must win but it would go a long ways in proving they are legit. I must say they really haven’t had a solid game offensively and defensively from beginning to end. A game where you say “if they play like that, they can beat anybody”. A rematch with Dallas is a very real possibility.

HL OSWALD -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 7:34:18 PM)
When the rest of the phases of this team dont play above their norm Kirk's game comes crashing back to earth as well... Many will say that is to be expected, Throw shade everywhere that it belongs... but honestly Kirk goes to KFC in fetal position so predictably in these games and that is NOT what winning QB and team leader that can carry you to a Super Bowl should encompass in their mettle...

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 7:39:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ronhextall Fox Radio had a betting specialist on or some kind of talking head. Point differential is reflective of a 5-4 team and basically said eventually that is what determines what kind of team you are. Said a couple teams basically lost games to Vikings vs the Vikings winning them. It’s all depressing. Thursday isn’t a must win but it would go a long ways in proving they are legit. I must say they really haven’t had a solid game offensively and defensively from beginning to end. A game where you say “if they play like that, they can beat anybody”. A rematch with Dallas is a very real possibility. Haven't had a solid game all season, but the next home game could help prove they are legit? Kind of a weird take.

ronhextall -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 7:42:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: ronhextall Fox Radio had a betting specialist on or some kind of talking head. Point differential is reflective of a 5-4 team and basically said eventually that is what determines what kind of team you are. Said a couple teams basically lost games to Vikings vs the Vikings winning them. It’s all depressing. Thursday isn’t a must win but it would go a long ways in proving they are legit. I must say they really haven’t had a solid game offensively and defensively from beginning to end. A game where you say “if they play like that, they can beat anybody”. A rematch with Dallas is a very real possibility. Haven't had a solid game all season, but the next home game could help prove they are legit? Kind of a weird take. Dominate from beginning to end against Pats. Would show me a lot.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 7:46:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HL OSWALD Whoopin is one thing but being exposed is totally another... Play off teams dont fear an opposing QB that when punched in mouth withers and curls up in fetal position... Teams in contention now have a blueprint and anyone with the weapons on D will ALWAYS exploit Kirk if he gets in that position... An aberration from the norm will only get you high hopes that crash down in bright lights with KFC... Same old shit... till he is gone we are in a living hell of ALMOST good enough... Did you copy this from the Game day thread or visa versa?

HL OSWALD -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 7:56:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: HL OSWALD Whoopin is one thing but being exposed is totally another... Play off teams dont fear an opposing QB that when punched in mouth withers and curls up in fetal position... Teams in contention now have a blueprint and anyone with the weapons on D will ALWAYS exploit Kirk if he gets in that position... An aberration from the norm will only get you high hopes that crash down in bright lights with KFC... Same old shit... till he is gone we are in a living hell of ALMOST good enough... Did you copy this from the Game day thread or visa versa? Yeah it seeped in from the game day thread slightly altered, is that a crime?

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 8:07:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HL OSWALD quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: HL OSWALD Whoopin is one thing but being exposed is totally another... Play off teams dont fear an opposing QB that when punched in mouth withers and curls up in fetal position... Teams in contention now have a blueprint and anyone with the weapons on D will ALWAYS exploit Kirk if he gets in that position... An aberration from the norm will only get you high hopes that crash down in bright lights with KFC... Same old shit... till he is gone we are in a living hell of ALMOST good enough... Did you copy this from the Game day thread or visa versa? Yeah it seeped in from the game day thread slightly altered, is that a crime? You're right, it "seeped in" with a minor grammatical alteration. My bad. [&:][&:][&:]

stfrank -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 8:15:40 PM)
I had seen all I needed to see before halftime. It was as bad an ass kicking I have seen in a long time..... I guess it's better to get a game like that out of your system now instead of having another 41-0 beating in the playoffs.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 8:16:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank I had seen all I needed to see before halftime. It was as bad an ass kicking I have seen in a long time..... I guess it's better to get a game like that out of your system now instead of having another 41-0 beating in the playoffs. I'm trying to remember a worse home performance. I've been watching since 86. I got nothing.

stfrank -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 8:18:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank I had seen all I needed to see before halftime. It was as bad an ass kicking I have seen in a long time..... I guess it's better to get a game like that out of your system now instead of having another 41-0 beating in the playoffs. I'm trying to remember a worse home performance. I've been watching since 86. I got nothing. Good point, I don't remember a home performance worse than today.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 8:23:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: stfrank I had seen all I needed to see before halftime. It was as bad an ass kicking I have seen in a long time..... I guess it's better to get a game like that out of your system now instead of having another 41-0 beating in the playoffs. I'm trying to remember a worse home performance. I've been watching since 86. I got nothing. Good point, I don't remember a home performance worse than today. I'm sure it's happened but I certainly don't remember.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 8:26:58 PM)
Perfect storm. Add a Buffalo hangover. They're not that good, we're not that bad ... but what they do well fits hand and glove into some of our bigger flaws, which magnifies them even more. (their run game/our run defense, their pass rush/our pass protection ...) IMO we have been winning with some help from our opponents and some momentum induced luck. Dal gave us none of that. We have deserved every win ... I'm not saying that ... but its not that we've greatly improved overall IMO as a team or an offense or a defense ... we just always come up with a few great plays and we have played much cleaner than our opponents. GB, Det, NO, Chi, Mia, Az, Wash ... thats seven out of eight wins against teams not that good or not at their best. Ironically, the defense has shown a little improvement overall while our more talented offense is still sputtering for quarters at a time (although the D is still a liability). That's worrisome. We have an Offensive minded coach, the team is supposed to be wired offensively, the real talent is on that side ... we better figure out a way to avoid our quarterly nosedives and hope the defense keeps improving incrementally, especially against the run ... We have proven our grittiness. I see a bounce back Thurs.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 8:27:01 PM)
So we've now given up more points than scored on the season. Seems like a regression to the mean is inevitable.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 8:38:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes Perfect storm. Add a Buffalo hangover. They're not that good, we're not that bad ... but what they do well fits hand and glove into some of our bigger flaws, which magnifies them even more. (their run game/our run defense, their pass rush/our pass protection ...) IMO we have been winning with some help from our opponents and some momentum induced luck. Dal gave us none of that. We have deserved every win ... I'm not saying that ... but its not that we've greatly improved overall IMO as a team or an offense or a defense ... we just always come up with a few great plays and we have played much cleaner than our opponents. GB, Det, NO, Chi, Mia, Az, Wash ... thats seven out of eight wins against teams not that good or not at their best. Ironically, the defense has shown a little improvement overall while our more talented offense is still sputtering for quarters at a time (although the D is still a liability). That's worrisome. We have an Offensive minded coach, the team is supposed to be wired offensively, the real talent is on that side ... we better figure out a way to avoid our quarterly nosedives and hope the defense keeps improving incrementally, especially against the run ... We have proven our grittiness. I see a bounce back Thurs. I don't know. After that blueprint I see a low scoring game that I'm not really sure of. The Patriots have good edge rushers. In a close game I probably give the edge to Bill B. Even though I agree Mac Jones sucks.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 8:56:02 PM)
Got bitchslapped by the Cowboys. Just insane how they own us in our own stadium now.

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 9:09:15 PM)
The beating at home against Buffalo a few years back was similar.

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 9:13:07 PM)
After beating Buffalo in Buffalo, I thought the Vikings might be developing a Super Bowl contender. Has any team that's won the Super Bowl, ever had this sort of loss during their Super Bowl winning season ?

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 9:14:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty The beating at home against Buffalo a few years back was similar. 21 pts vs 37 points.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 9:15:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty After beating Buffalo in Buffalo, I thought the Vikings might be developing a Super Bowl contender. Has any team that's won the Super Bowl, ever had this sort of loss during their Super Bowl winning season ? Patriots lost bad at the beginning of the season one year.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 9:18:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty The beating at home against Buffalo a few years back was similar. More like our beating by the Giants in the playoffs, not sure of the year (with freakin Kerry Collins at qb) Nothing worked for us, everything they did worked for them.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 9:24:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: marty The beating at home against Buffalo a few years back was similar. More like our beating by the Giants in the playoffs, not sure of the year (with freakin Kerry Collins at qb) Nothing worked for us, everything they did worked for them. 41 donut in NY. I'm not sure I've seen a worse home performance.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 9:40:39 PM)
Well ... tomorrow should be pretty lively in here lol. All the usual suspects will be swinging by.

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (11/20/2022 10:04:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes Well ... tomorrow should be pretty lively in here lol. All the usual suspects will be swinging by. This has got to be killing Hoisflamer.

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