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Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 6:50:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty Bill, I am not sure why you're so obsessed with comments about me, other than trying to re-prove to everyone that you're an a-hole. Don't hold back! Get your GB game on!

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 6:55:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Also Irv needs to hit the jugs machine. I think it will eventually pay dividends but he has hurt so many drives with drops so far. The last time jugs was uttered was with Troy Williamson. Meanwhile, well known to KOC and cheap Johnny Mundt is outplaying Irv Tease Jr. And Conklin outplayed him. He should have been cut long ago. Maybe he needs to be cut. Missed TC and all of last year. Hope it is rust. Mundt is so wide open because teams are covering Jefferson Thielen and Irv.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:02:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Also Irv needs to hit the jugs machine. I think it will eventually pay dividends but he has hurt so many drives with drops so far. The last time jugs was uttered was with Troy Williamson. Meanwhile, well known to KOC and cheap Johnny Mundt is outplaying Irv Tease Jr. And Conklin outplayed him. He should have been cut long ago. Agree. I see no reason to keep hoping he gets it.

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:08:22 PM)
Time to shut down Cook for a few games and let him heal. He ran well.. I give him that. Runblocking was decent.. pass pro was good, except when Detroit ran stunts.. Blitz pickups was abysmal. Unbelievable how much time kirk had, but no one was open. He still doesn’t read the field well or throw open receivers.. Although, after getting torched last week by JJ and Droppy McDrivekiller, I can see why. The offensive line looks improved.. Center is the next piece of that puzzle. Kirk needs to throw more to Mundt and Ozborne.. Kirk still needs to learn to progress thru his reads, way faster. Kirk needs to quit staring down his targets. I’ll give Cousins big props for the comeback win, that I never expected to happen. Our Run defense is a joke. We are still giving up 4.6 yards per attempt.. Better than dead last, but not by much. Z’darius and Hunter are Not outside linebackers who should EVER have coverage assignments. The soft zone is way way too easy to exploit with middle in , slant and seam routes.. I think Donatello needs to GTFOOHWTS.

beo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:09:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Also Irv needs to hit the jugs machine. I think it will eventually pay dividends but he has hurt so many drives with drops so far. Sadly, it might just be that Irv isn't that good. Thought he'd come out on fire this year... he's just been a dumpster fire.

bohumm -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:12:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Dalvin Cook "day to day". More like day after day after day. He's one of the best backs in the history of the franchise, but he can't stay on the field. Foreman, Peterson, Smith.... Cook. Hard to rank the impact of the Bill & Ted (see what I did there?) Browns. Terry Allen was stellar as well

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:14:22 PM)
I want to give Osborn more props for his effort.. That pass he laid completely out for.. was a throw where cousins was rushed.. a fraction of a second more protection, that would have been a touchdown.. Osborn had his coverage beat.

ronhextall -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:17:36 PM)
Cook is like Kittle for 49ers. Great but always hurt.

beo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:17:42 PM)
One other observation... After getting frustrated with Vikes... I started flipping back and forth to the Colts/Chiefs game. Colts receivers were not getting separation either... but Ryan was getting the ball out quickly and jamming the ball in there. I think Kirk still has a hard time knowing when you need to start taking chances... That being said... he got it done in the end. Nice throw to Osbourne.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:17:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young Time to shut down Cook for a few games and let him heal. He ran well.. I give him that. Runblocking was decent.. pass pro was good, except when Detroit ran stunts.. Blitz pickups was abysmal. Unbelievable how much time kirk had, but no one was open. He still doesn’t read the field well or throw open receivers.. Although, after getting torched last week by JJ and Droppy McDrivekiller, I can see why. The offensive line looks improved.. Center is the next piece of that puzzle. Kirk needs to throw more to Mundt and Ozborne.. Kirk still needs to learn to progress thru his reads, way faster. Kirk needs to quit staring down his targets. I’ll give Cousins big props for the comeback win, that I never expected to happen. Our Run defense is a joke. We are still giving up 4.6 yards per attempt.. Better than dead last, but not by much. Z’darius and Hunter are Not outside linebackers who should EVER have coverage assignments. The soft zone is way way too easy to exploit with middle in , slant and seam routes.. I think Donatello needs to GTFOOHWTS. Zed and Hunter definitely won't thrive in this system. They need to go back to 4-3 to get the most out of them imo but that isn't happening. Kirk brought us back and I guess I'll be eating a little crow this week about that but I'm glad he did. Maybe he can wake up now. Good points on your post Dan.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:19:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beo One other observation... After getting frustrated with Vikes... I started flipping back and forth to the Colts/Chiefs game. Colts receivers were not getting separation either... but Ryan was getting the ball out quickly and jamming the ball in there. I think Kirk still has a hard time knowing when you need to start taking chances... That being said... he got it done in the end. Nice throw to Osbourne. He definitely doesn't like to make the small window throws like all the good QBs can make in spades. That's probably his biggest weakness and why he'll sit back there and hold it so long.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:23:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bohumm quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Dalvin Cook "day to day". More like day after day after day. He's one of the best backs in the history of the franchise, but he can't stay on the field. Foreman, Peterson, Smith.... Cook. Hard to rank the impact of the Bill & Ted (see what I did there?) Browns. Terry Allen was stellar as well Definitely, but way too short of a stay. He was one of the best pure runners. One cut, then north to south smoothness. Kinda like Joey Browner, although Browner - if he kept at it - would be vying for Mt. Rushmore. And Percy Harvin was a hell of a runner.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:25:07 PM)
OK folks, it's Osborn. Not Osbourne.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:25:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: bohumm quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Dalvin Cook "day to day". More like day after day after day. He's one of the best backs in the history of the franchise, but he can't stay on the field. Foreman, Peterson, Smith.... Cook. Hard to rank the impact of the Bill & Ted (see what I did there?) Browns. Terry Allen was stellar as well Definitely, but way too short of a stay. He was one of the best pure runners. One cut, then north to south smoothness. Kinda like Joey Browner, although Browner - if he kept at it - would be vying for Mt. Rushmore. And Percy Harvin was a hell of a runner. Terry Allen was smooth! I just wonder how amazing he'd have been without all of the horrific injuries.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:26:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen OK folks, it's Osborn. Not Osbourne. Everyone loves Ozzy.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:28:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: beo One other observation... After getting frustrated with Vikes... I started flipping back and forth to the Colts/Chiefs game. Colts receivers were not getting separation either... but Ryan was getting the ball out quickly and jamming the ball in there. I think Kirk still has a hard time knowing when you need to start taking chances... That being said... he got it done in the end. Nice throw to Osbourne. This! It's worth exploring but near impossible to arrive at a conclusion. To the casual viewer, there are moments when it's like he says to himself 'I'm just gonna start chucking it.'

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:31:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen OK folks, it's Osborn. Not Osbourne. Everyone loves Ozzy. A couple of folks prefer the British version. And I'll call him Osborn.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:34:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: marty IF you hired a poor DC, how long do you give him before firing him ? Kicking 56 yard FG when you have a good punter. Short field made two of Detroit TDS. Defense will be a work in progress but our best safety and cb were both out. I don’t remember how many games it has been since we pulled out a game we shouldn’t have won. It has been the other way with Zimmer. Just who the hell is our best CB !!! Short field made their TDs!!! And finally, Detroit lat last year was the last time … !!! oh never mind. ridiculous. Booth WHAT?? I know you love to use injuries as an excuse, but that is out there... even for you. Booth played against GB but not against Philly or the Lions. How was the pass defense in those games? Defense will be a work in progress as Cine, Evans, and Booth get integrated. Booth played 0 defensive snaps and 2 ST snaps against GB.

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:36:34 PM)
Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie! Oi Oi Oi

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:37:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: beo One other observation... After getting frustrated with Vikes... I started flipping back and forth to the Colts/Chiefs game. Colts receivers were not getting separation either... but Ryan was getting the ball out quickly and jamming the ball in there. I think Kirk still has a hard time knowing when you need to start taking chances... That being said... he got it done in the end. Nice throw to Osbourne. He definitely doesn't like to make the small window throws like all the good QBs can make in spades. That's probably his biggest weakness and why he'll sit back there and hold it so long. Gotta protect those stats. He's got the arm but his head is the enemy. Give him some gummy marijuana (whatever they are called) and tell him it's preseason. He'd probably go 33-35, 4 TDs.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:38:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie! Oi Oi Oi OK, that could be a great chant....

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:40:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: marty IF you hired a poor DC, how long do you give him before firing him ? Kicking 56 yard FG when you have a good punter. Short field made two of Detroit TDS. Defense will be a work in progress but our best safety and cb were both out. I don’t remember how many games it has been since we pulled out a game we shouldn’t have won. It has been the other way with Zimmer. Just who the hell is our best CB !!! Short field made their TDs!!! And finally, Detroit lat last year was the last time … !!! oh never mind. ridiculous. Booth WHAT?? I know you love to use injuries as an excuse, but that is out there... even for you. Booth played against GB but not against Philly or the Lions. How was the pass defense in those games? Defense will be a work in progress as Cine, Evans, and Booth get integrated. Booth played 0 defensive snaps and 2 ST snaps against GB. Hah, so Booth technically played! Still... WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:48:00 PM)
So... the possible bear in the room.... JJ. Good with the win while being a coverage magnet? Like really good with it? 2000 yards? An upcoming Justin ratio? Will there be a squeaky wheel gets the grease scenario? Is he stuck between awesome vs normal coverage compared to being a non-factor vs double coverage? The media is asking.

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:48:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: beo One other observation... After getting frustrated with Vikes... I started flipping back and forth to the Colts/Chiefs game. Colts receivers were not getting separation either... but Ryan was getting the ball out quickly and jamming the ball in there. I think Kirk still has a hard time knowing when you need to start taking chances... That being said... he got it done in the end. Nice throw to Osbourne. He definitely doesn't like to make the small window throws like all the good QBs can make in spades. That's probably his biggest weakness and why he'll sit back there and hold it so long. Gotta protect those stats. He's got the arm but his head is the enemy. Give him some gummy marijuana (whatever they are called) and tell him it's preseason. He'd probably go 33-35, 4 TDs. It’s edibles, man.. And a screen pass to Bradbury has a bigger chance of happening… You should really try some edibles.. Best thing is you can get the delta 8 kind.. which are, so far, totally legal.. And pretty damn good.. [8\|]

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/25/2022 7:54:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: beo One other observation... After getting frustrated with Vikes... I started flipping back and forth to the Colts/Chiefs game. Colts receivers were not getting separation either... but Ryan was getting the ball out quickly and jamming the ball in there. I think Kirk still has a hard time knowing when you need to start taking chances... That being said... he got it done in the end. Nice throw to Osbourne. He definitely doesn't like to make the small window throws like all the good QBs can make in spades. That's probably his biggest weakness and why he'll sit back there and hold it so long. Gotta protect those stats. He's got the arm but his head is the enemy. Give him some gummy marijuana (whatever they are called) and tell him it's preseason. He'd probably go 33-35, 4 TDs. It’s edibles, man.. And a screen pass to Bradbury has a bigger chance of happening… You should really try some edibles.. Best thing is you can get the delta 8 kind.. which are, so far, totally legal.. And pretty damn good.. [8\|] Well, a screen to Bradbury kinda, sorta happened. I figured he could be conned into eating them. No thanks to delta 8 or whatever... although strangely I'll remember the name.

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