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twinsfan -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/18/2023 10:49:13 PM)

Nobody in their right mind would trade Pablo Lopez for Luis Arraez.




David Levine -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/18/2023 11:27:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

From Twins Almanac: Joe batting .383 on this date in 2009 - finished with .365 and MVP.

Tough to keep that avg. that high this late.

Today: Arraez & Acuna .335


August for Arraez: 15 Games, .238 BA, .238 OBP. 63 ABs. 15 Hits, 0 Walks.




Karl Juhnke -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/18/2023 11:34:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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Castro “mild left oblique strain”. Yeah they’re stashing him. I get that 3-4 times a week.

Read my posts.


I did. I was agreeing with you.




Mister Ed -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/19/2023 8:50:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

Castro “mild left oblique strain”. Yeah they’re stashing him. I get that 3-4 times a week.

Read my posts.


I did. I was agreeing with you.


He got scratched from Saturday's lineup. 2 days later to the IL.
Jeffers scratched last night. Hopefully he avoids the same fate.




MDK -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/19/2023 9:03:50 PM)

Balazovic absolutely sucks.
Twins can't develop pitchers.
Period




Mister Ed -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/20/2023 6:27:00 AM)

Balazovic absolutely sucks.

3 bullpen jobs are mop ups. Great job developing pitchers. Great job improving the team at the deadline.


Twins should have loosened the purse strings to sign McCutchen

Years ago.




TJSweens -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/20/2023 1:25:54 PM)

Why is Luplow leading off? Rocco is such a moron.




Steve Lentz -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/20/2023 3:25:53 PM)

Twin batters with 31 strikeouts in last 2 games.




Steve Lentz -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/20/2023 3:36:10 PM)

Twins scratch out the series. Tigers help us widen our Division lead.




Ricky J -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/20/2023 6:00:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

Twin batters with 31 strikeouts in last 2 games.

11, 15, 16

Ouch!

"Guess what, in a playoff game where at-bats really matter, that ain't gonna cut it."




Mister Ed -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/20/2023 6:08:17 PM)

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Why is Luplow leading off? Rocco is such a moron.


Why is he subbing Gallo for him? Luplow could just as well have gone 3 more at bats striking out.




Ricky J -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/20/2023 6:50:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Why is Luplow leading off? Rocco is such a moron.


Why is he subbing Gallo for him? Luplow could just as well have gone 3 more at bats striking out.

I could have gone 3 more at bats striking out.




TJSweens -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/20/2023 7:09:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

Why is Luplow leading off? Rocco is such a moron.


Why is he subbing Gallo for him? Luplow could just as well have gone 3 more at bats striking out.

Again, Rocco is a moron.




Steve Lentz -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/20/2023 8:02:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

Twin batters with 31 strikeouts in last 2 games.

11, 15, 16

Ouch!

"Guess what, in a playoff game where at-bats really matter, that ain't gonna cut it."

Sure won't!!!
Pathetic.




ewen21 -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/21/2023 6:02:13 AM)

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Souhan's column is a masterpiece.


He went for the low hanging fruit. That is the easiest article to write for him. How about doing some actual reporting on this team? It is on the press corpse for not getting a clear answer on Buxton's knee issue. They keep kicking that can down the road. When Baldelli went on that mini rant about how he would be playing CF if he could the press should have pressed him hard on what exactly the issue is.

If you get nothing from Rocco write a column about how irresponsible the front office has been in this situation.




Phil Riewer -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/21/2023 7:24:37 AM)

Again we use Thielbar in an 8th inning high leverage situation....he should be a 7th inning guy. Way to pick up a couple guys during the trade deadline to help the bullpen....




Karl Juhnke -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/21/2023 9:08:44 AM)

For a while I’ve been posting magic number. A little tongue in cheek because it was a little early, and this is far from a powerhouse team. But as of today for the first time it’s feeling like it actually means something.

If the Twins continue to plod along around .500 against a weak schedule, say go 19-18, Cleveland would have to go 25-12 to catch them. Something they have shown no inclination or ability to do.




Ricky J -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/21/2023 9:58:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

For a whole I’ve been posting magic number. A little tongue in cheek because it was a little early, and this is far from a powerhouse team. But as of today for the first time it’s feeling like it actually means something.

If the Twins continue to plod along around .500 against a weak schedule, say go 19-18, Cleveland would have to go 25-12 to catch them. Something they have shown no inclination or ability to do.

I just looked at the schedule before I came in here. I like your magic number updates, btw.

We have 15 games v. >.500 teams and 22 v. <.500 left to play. The last six are v. Oak (hm) and CO (away).

You'd think if we were gamers at all this should be in the bag. Wouldn't surprise me if it came down to the last six, though - but I hope that's just a pessimistic vibe and we play some good ball to finish the season.




TJSweens -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/21/2023 10:32:57 AM)

So,.if the Twins play .500 ball, which they have done all year, a team 7 games under. 500, who just traded their best pitcher, needs to play 13 games over .500 to catch us. I think we're pretty safe.




David Levine -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/21/2023 11:07:29 AM)

The worst division in MLB history? Welcome to a weekend in the AL Central
The Athletic MLB Staff

Welcome to another weekend in the AL Central, the home of the youngest, the least experienced and the sorriest this league has to offer, where on-field ineptitude may be sinking to historic depths. The 2023 quintet is on pace to produce the worst combined record of MLB’s divisional era, which began in 1969.

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Before this year, the 2018 season held the record for the worst division in history, when — you guessed it — the AL Central mustered a combined winning percentage of only .436. This year’s AL Central has a combined winning percentage of .433. Four of the division’s five teams have losing records, and they have combined for a run differential of minus-334. Only the fourth-place White Sox ranked higher than 15th in Opening Day payroll.

In Chicago, that team has suffered a cultural implosion, its season defined by its struggling shortstop absorbing a right hook to the face amid a brouhaha in Cleveland.

In last place, the 40-86 Royals have baseball’s second-worst record, ahead of only the dismal Oakland Athletics. Even as shortstop Bobby Witt Jr. plays like a budding star, the Royals have not had a .500 record since 2016 and have found few signs of hope. MLB Pipeline recently ranked the Royals’ farm system 29th out of 30 organizations, and the Royals do not have a single Top 100 prospect.

And as for the division leader?

The 65-60 Twins hold a six-game edge on the Guardians. Minnesota’s lineup has struggled, ranking eighth in OPS and ninth in runs per game among AL teams. But when compared to their four division rivals — the league’s lowest-scoring non-Oakland lineups — the Twins resemble a powerhouse, even though they might break MLB’s all-time strikeout record.

Yet even when they falter, it hardly matters. Seven of the Twins’ last 10 losses have come on days when the Guardians have also lost, thus increasing Minnesota’s chances of winning the division by simply erasing another game from the respective schedules.

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Minnesota failing to make any trades at the deadline took people in the game by surprise given the season-long need for bullpen help and a right-handed-hitting corner outfielder. Those are two seemingly easy boxes to check inexpensively, yet the Twins stood pat — and watched their odds of winning the division actually increase.

Why? Because the other four teams were sellers.

“Certainly, we’re very much aware of what every other club is doing,” said Twins president of baseball operations Derek Falvey. “But it doesn’t change our process, necessarily. Had (Cleveland) gone in a different direction and acquired two or three different players, would that have changed our process? I can’t say it would. I would say our view was, how do we best put this team in position to succeed this year and beyond?”

In other words, winning the AL Central in 2023 is important, but it can probably be accomplished without trading away any prospects who might help them win the division in 2024 or 2025.

https://theathletic.com/4792047/2023/08/21/al-central-worst-division-mlb/




Ricky J -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/21/2023 11:15:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

So,.if the Twins play .500 ball, which they have done all year, a team 7 games under. 500, who just traded their best pitcher, needs to play 13 games over .500 to catch us. I think we're pretty safe.

One would think so, yes. Cleveland would have to win 25.5 games out of the remaining 37.




Mister Ed -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/21/2023 12:14:34 PM)

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In other words, winning the AL Central in 2023 is important, but it can probably be accomplished without trading away any prospects who might help them win the division in 2024 or 2025.


It's a trash excuse by the Twins

Decent bullpen help wouldn't have cost them anyone who will play for them in the next 2 years. Cowards. Shying away from a lot of deals because they sucked at it in the past is a bad idea.

One more bullpen guy (not the meh guy from Miami) would make a huge difference.




Mister Ed -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/21/2023 12:16:33 PM)

After a ton of opportunities given to Moran, it makes little sense they don't give Kody Funderburk an opportunity. Winder and Sands even being on the roster right now is a waste of time.

Now they're chirping that Keuchel, who saved his career for another start after Sunday, could be part of a 6 man rotation to save arms. SMH

Keuchel was aided by a ridiculous strike zone. If he goes in TX, he will be shelled again. TX will score double digits.




Phil Riewer -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/21/2023 3:05:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

After a ton of opportunities given to Moran, it makes little sense they don't give Kody Funderburk an opportunity. Winder and Sands even being on the roster right now is a waste of time.

Now they're chirping that Keuchel, who saved his career for another start after Sunday, could be part of a 6 man rotation to save arms. SMH

Keuchel was aided by a ridiculous strike zone. If he goes in TX, he will be shelled again. TX will score double digits.


The master plan is to have Kuechel, Maeda, and Ober as bullpen guys in the playoffs....[&o] [:o]




twinsfan -> RE: Twins 2023 Season and Game Day Thread (8/21/2023 4:33:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Mister Ed

After a ton of opportunities given to Moran, it makes little sense they don't give Kody Funderburk an opportunity. Winder and Sands even being on the roster right now is a waste of time.

Now they're chirping that Keuchel, who saved his career for another start after Sunday, could be part of a 6 man rotation to save arms. SMH

Keuchel was aided by a ridiculous strike zone. If he goes in TX, he will be shelled again. TX will score double digits.


The master plan is to have Kuechel, Maeda, and Ober as bullpen guys in the playoffs....[&o] [:o]

I don't know what Joe Ryan has done since May to secure a spot in the playoff rotation.




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