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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzfLYsjgK7M

OK. Let's look at pressure on our QB objectively. That link is to the condensed game. It takes 47 minutes to watch. I just went through every offensive play and used a timer to gauge if we allowed a pressure on a play. I used three seconds. If the ball is out or no defender is about to make contact at three seconds I determined it to be a play free of pressure. I came up with 58 pass plays. Some were negated by penalties. I didn't have the time to sort those out. Here are the resutls:

Out of 58 pass plays I determined that the Chargers got pressure clearly on six plays. There are also two plays where Cousins is sacked or hit at exactly three seconds so let's count those also. That makes eight plays out of 58 or 14% of drop backs.

Kirk successfully navigated the pressure three of the plays including throwing a TD pass on one of them.

His sacks came at 3, 5, 6, and 5 seconds so like I said I counted the 3 second one as a pressure.

I saved my notes on this so if anyone else wants to go through the plays like I did and disagree with my results I'm willing to take a look.

14% pressure rate and half the fan base talks about "running for his life from the onset of the snap on every play".

It's good analysis except we don't know if anybody is open after just 3 seconds. Or 4 seconds. Best coach on the field yesterday was Chargers OC. Quick hitters against back 7 that only had 5 back there because of all the blitzes.

I've been on board with getting a mobile QB for 2 years now. But, our OLine is not excellent and finally had a decent game against the 32nd rated defense.

If, after everything we've invested into our pass catchers, no one is open... check that... CONSISTENTLY no one is open then disband the franchise. We have Justin Jefferson, TJ Hockenson, and Jordan Addison for crying out loud.

Obviously Cousins is not going to see some guys when they are open. And that is on him.

But, your analysis leads us to believe that we have open guys every play, beating double teams, waving their arms while Kirk panics into a sack.

It's good analysis except we don't know if anybody is open after just 3 seconds. That's hyperbolic at best. Players by default are open simply based on normal QB completion rates in the 60th percentile and above, plus the plays where they were open but not seen or whatever.

But, your analysis leads us to believe that we have open guys every play, beating double teams, waving their arms while Kirk panics into a sack. That might have been your takeaway from the analysis, but I don't think 'us' is appropriate. It's on the opposite extreme of the first statement.

No team has receivers open all the time. I think the analysis is pretty reflective of the norm (if anything, our good receivers maybe slant things) vs either of your extremes.

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: David F.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzfLYsjgK7M

OK. Let's look at pressure on our QB objectively. That link is to the condensed game. It takes 47 minutes to watch. I just went through every offensive play and used a timer to gauge if we allowed a pressure on a play. I used three seconds. If the ball is out or no defender is about to make contact at three seconds I determined it to be a play free of pressure. I came up with 58 pass plays. Some were negated by penalties. I didn't have the time to sort those out. Here are the resutls:

Out of 58 pass plays I determined that the Chargers got pressure clearly on six plays. There are also two plays where Cousins is sacked or hit at exactly three seconds so let's count those also. That makes eight plays out of 58 or 14% of drop backs.

Kirk successfully navigated the pressure three of the plays including throwing a TD pass on one of them.

His sacks came at 3, 5, 6, and 5 seconds so like I said I counted the 3 second one as a pressure.

I saved my notes on this so if anyone else wants to go through the plays like I did and disagree with my results I'm willing to take a look.

14% pressure rate and half the fan base talks about "running for his life from the onset of the snap on every play".

Nice.

Yep, the problem is he's so immobile any sort fo break looks like pressure, where as more mobile QBs are able to shift away from things. Kirk makes it look worse because he can't move

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzfLYsjgK7M

OK. Let's look at pressure on our QB objectively. That link is to the condensed game. It takes 47 minutes to watch. I just went through every offensive play and used a timer to gauge if we allowed a pressure on a play. I used three seconds. If the ball is out or no defender is about to make contact at three seconds I determined it to be a play free of pressure. I came up with 58 pass plays. Some were negated by penalties. I didn't have the time to sort those out. Here are the resutls:

Out of 58 pass plays I determined that the Chargers got pressure clearly on six plays. There are also two plays where Cousins is sacked or hit at exactly three seconds so let's count those also. That makes eight plays out of 58 or 14% of drop backs.

Kirk successfully navigated the pressure three of the plays including throwing a TD pass on one of them.

His sacks came at 3, 5, 6, and 5 seconds so like I said I counted the 3 second one as a pressure.

I saved my notes on this so if anyone else wants to go through the plays like I did and disagree with my results I'm willing to take a look.

14% pressure rate and half the fan base talks about "running for his life from the onset of the snap on every play".

It's good analysis except we don't know if anybody is open after just 3 seconds. Or 4 seconds. Best coach on the field yesterday was Chargers OC. Quick hitters against back 7 that only had 5 back there because of all the blitzes.

I've been on board with getting a mobile QB for 2 years now. But, our OLine is not excellent and finally had a decent game against the 32nd rated defense.

If, after everything we've invested into our pass catchers, no one is open... check that... CONSISTENTLY no one is open then disband the franchise. We have Justin Jefferson, TJ Hockenson, and Jordan Addison for crying out loud.

Obviously Cousins is not going to see some guys when they are open. And that is on him.

But, your analysis leads us to believe that we have open guys every play, beating double teams, waving their arms while Kirk panics into a sack.

It's good analysis except we don't know if anybody is open after just 3 seconds. That's hyperbolic at best. Players by default are open simply based on normal QB completion rates in the 60th percentile and above, plus the plays where they were open but not seen or whatever.

But, your analysis leads us to believe that we have open guys every play, beating double teams, waving their arms while Kirk panics into a sack. That might have been your takeaway from the analysis, but I don't think 'us' is appropriate. It's on the opposite extreme of the first statement.

No team has receivers open all the time. I think the analysis is pretty reflective of the norm (if anything, our good receivers maybe slant things) vs either of your extremes.

I hear what you are saying.

But, my main point from the beginning is 4 man rushes (in general) are able to pressure Cousins because our IOL is weak. One decent game against the 32nd ranked defense doesn't change that.

Herbert basically had his pick of single coverage on every non disguised blitz. Cousins dealt with 7 guys in back end. He made some throws and missed some throws and had a major blunder at end.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Really liked David's time-to-throw research. The only thing questionable thing is SD's defense is 28th in points allowed after three games, so perhaps they don't pressure opposing QBs enough. Only three games though. Philly ran through the OL like butter, but that is a top DL so it's difficult to generalize from them as well.

It looks like KFC has little time, but perhaps he should be shouldering more of the blame (as mentioned a lot, he holds the ball too long, he's a statue, he's 35). IMO an OL study is important because I'd like to think/hope the OL is good enough so that we could focus only on QB and defense in the offseason. But ughhh, IMO we still need upgrades in at least two IOL positions.

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: David F.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzfLYsjgK7M

OK. Let's look at pressure on our QB objectively. That link is to the condensed game. It takes 47 minutes to watch. I just went through every offensive play and used a timer to gauge if we allowed a pressure on a play. I used three seconds. If the ball is out or no defender is about to make contact at three seconds I determined it to be a play free of pressure. I came up with 58 pass plays. Some were negated by penalties. I didn't have the time to sort those out. Here are the resutls:

Out of 58 pass plays I determined that the Chargers got pressure clearly on six plays. There are also two plays where Cousins is sacked or hit at exactly three seconds so let's count those also. That makes eight plays out of 58 or 14% of drop backs.

Kirk successfully navigated the pressure three of the plays including throwing a TD pass on one of them.

His sacks came at 3, 5, 6, and 5 seconds so like I said I counted the 3 second one as a pressure.

I saved my notes on this so if anyone else wants to go through the plays like I did and disagree with my results I'm willing to take a look.

14% pressure rate and half the fan base talks about "running for his life from the onset of the snap on every play".

Nice.

Yep, the problem is he's so immobile any sort fo break looks like pressure, where as more mobile QBs are able to shift away from things. Kirk makes it look worse because he can't move

Kirk is slow. But, Brady and Manning were sloths too but they were able to move around in the pocket just enough to buy time. Despite having played QB since at least the time he was in high school, Kirk just never developed that skill set and I've no idea why since it doesn't require "speed", but rather, "awareness" of where the pressure is coming from.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Really liked David's time-to-throw research. The only thing questionable thing is SD's defense is 28th in points allowed after three games, so perhaps they don't pressure opposing QBs enough. Only three games though. Philly ran through the OL like butter, but that is a top DL so it's difficult to generalize from them as well.

It looks like KFC has little time, but perhaps he should be shouldering more of the blame (as mentioned a lot, he holds the ball too long, he's a statue, he's 35). IMO an OL study is important because I'd like to think/hope the OL is good enough so that we could focus only on QB and defense in the offseason. But ughhh, IMO we still need upgrades in at least two IOL positions.

There's so many small details that the fan will never pick up on unless we watch and rewatch the games in detail and then watch quite a few youtubers and bloggers also analyze the games. That link I posted in the middle of last week was a couple of ex-linemen going over the play wher Kirk got strip-sacked vs Tampa. They pointed out that we had 3 passcatchers left and 1 right and Tampa only had 2 defenders covering the 3 passcatchers. The ex-linemen said a vet QB should see that and instantly know that the D will drop a passrusher into coverage into those 3 passcatchers and the pressure will then come from the right. THey said it was the QB's responsibilty to change the protection at the line of scrimmage for that but our QB didn't.

To the naked eye it looked like the passrush came untouched (which it did) but in reality the protection needed to be changed and then the QB also needed to move to the left at the snap. There are dozens of little things like this going on over the course of three games.

When someone says, "bad lines seem to follow Cousins around" or "things just don't bounce his way", or whatever else what they're really saying is that over the course of an 11-year-career, he's just not picked up on or mastered a bunch of these small things.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Really liked David's time-to-throw research. The only thing questionable thing is SD's defense is 28th in points allowed after three games, so perhaps they don't pressure opposing QBs enough. Only three games though. Philly ran through the OL like butter, but that is a top DL so it's difficult to generalize from them as well.

It looks like KFC has little time, but perhaps he should be shouldering more of the blame (as mentioned a lot, he holds the ball too long, he's a statue, he's 35). IMO an OL study is important because I'd like to think/hope the OL is good enough so that we could focus only on QB and defense in the offseason. But ughhh, IMO we still need upgrades in at least two IOL positions.

There's so many small details that the fan will never pick up on unless we watch and rewatch the games in detail and then watch quite a few youtubers and bloggers also analyze the games. That link I posted in the middle of last week was a couple of ex-linemen going over the play wher Kirk got strip-sacked vs Tampa. They pointed out that we had 3 passcatchers left and 1 right and Tampa only had 2 defenders covering the 3 passcatchers. The ex-linemen said a vet QB should see that and instantly know that the D will drop a passrusher into coverage into those 3 passcatchers and the pressure will then come from the right. THey said it was the QB's responsibilty to change the protection at the line of scrimmage for that but our QB didn't.

To the naked eye it looked like the passrush came untouched (which it did) but in reality the protection needed to be changed and then the QB also needed to move to the left at the snap. There are dozens of little things like this going on over the course of three games.

When someone says, "bad lines seem to follow Cousins around" or "things just don't bounce his way", or whatever else what they're really saying is that over the course of an 11-year-career, he's just not picked up on or mastered a bunch of these small things.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Really liked David's time-to-throw research. The only thing questionable thing is SD's defense is 28th in points allowed after three games, so perhaps they don't pressure opposing QBs enough. Only three games though. Philly ran through the OL like butter, but that is a top DL so it's difficult to generalize from them as well.

It looks like KFC has little time, but perhaps he should be shouldering more of the blame (as mentioned a lot, he holds the ball too long, he's a statue, he's 35). IMO an OL study is important because I'd like to think/hope the OL is good enough so that we could focus only on QB and defense in the offseason. But ughhh, IMO we still need upgrades in at least two IOL positions.

There's so many small details that the fan will never pick up on unless we watch and rewatch the games in detail and then watch quite a few youtubers and bloggers also analyze the games. That link I posted in the middle of last week was a couple of ex-linemen going over the play wher Kirk got strip-sacked vs Tampa. They pointed out that we had 3 passcatchers left and 1 right and Tampa only had 2 defenders covering the 3 passcatchers. The ex-linemen said a vet QB should see that and instantly know that the D will drop a passrusher into coverage into those 3 passcatchers and the pressure will then come from the right. THey said it was the QB's responsibilty to change the protection at the line of scrimmage for that but our QB didn't.

To the naked eye it looked like the passrush came untouched (which it did) but in reality the protection needed to be changed and then the QB also needed to move to the left at the snap. There are dozens of little things like this going on over the course of three games.

When someone says, "bad lines seem to follow Cousins around" or "things just don't bounce his way", or whatever else what they're really saying is that over the course of an 11-year-career, he's just not picked up on or mastered a bunch of these small things.

Can we conclude that he did do those things last year with all the late game comebacks, clutch throws and wins?

Again, I'm all for going to a young mobile QB next year.

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I guess we root for the Bears to beat Denver next week?
The only way I want Caleb in our division is if he’s a Viking…

I would love to get the guy but I do have a concern.
Marty loves him.

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I don't post much here any more, just busy I guess. I wanted to chime in on the Risner topic. In watching Risner the past couple years, I would say he certainly isn't better than Cleveland, pretty much equal. Now is he better than Engram, a little. I don't see way folks haven't noticed that Risner is unemployed, while countless teams have injuries on the offensive line. He's just not worth the money that is being talked about for his services. He is better than Engram, yes, but Ingram is just starting his second year, his upside is a good bet. I watched several games already this season, there are only a couple teams that can brag about their offensive lines. That's mostly because the defensive line guys now days are studs. As I look at the league these days, I see better defensive lines than offensive lines. Just my opinion, but what the Vikings need is a stud center. Garrett is just never going to get the ass he needs and that's that. Get a stud center and they can make this work and be respectable up front. I'm not blind, I do see issues going forward, but now injuries have pointed out the real problem, solid depth. If our front office did one real bad thing this off-season, they failed to bring in better second level guys. That's not the group that's here's fault, it's managements fault.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: David Levine
I guess we root for the Bears to beat Denver next week?
The only way I want Caleb in our division is if he’s a Viking…

I would love to get the guy but I do have a concern.
Marty loves him.

A lot of love before the draft for Fields, Wilson, and Lance.....only SF held steady because they drafted 2.

Whatever you do don't spend all your capital on moving up for a QB. Chicago had capital because they traded away Mack and their stud LB. They have one winning season in 11-12 years since they fired Lovie.

If I had to pick a QB. Caleb isn't the guy i like---I would go with the Oregon guy. Has to be a team that runs a pro offense.

Defense looks good even though we got thrashed by Allen. Evans dropped a pick and we have Davenport not playing. They still are aggressive and forcing the issue. Almost won the game with the 4th and game. Flores doesn't have the talent and it still looks better than last year (He also played 2 rookies, Carter and Roy).

We just keep taking turns making mistakes.....1st game (Kirk 3 TOs), 2nd game (JJ fumble at the goal line, Powell, Mattison), 3rd game (Evans, TJ)

One note on trading Kirk...get at least what you would for him leaving as a FA.

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The Vikings have an excellent offensive line and I'm standing by that. You can quote me.

Ingram is probably dead last in all OLine categories.

If we replace him, we could get up to middle of the pack.

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ORIGINAL: David F.


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@vikesinsider
Week 3 #Vikings PFF grades, ranked:

1.) Jordan Hicks (89.2)
2.) Josh Oliver (86.5)
3.) Danielle Hunter (85.2)
4.) Justin Jefferson (84.5)
5.) Ed Ingram (81.5)
6.) Ezra Cleveland (79.9)
7.) Josh Metellus (76.2)
8.) Harrison Smith (73.9)
9.) Ivan Pace Jr. (72.2)
10.) Kirk Cousins (71.5)
11.) Akayleb Evans (71.0)
12.) Cam Bynum (70.3)
13.) Austin Schlottmann (69.7)
14.) Ty Chandler (68.5)
15.) Jonathan Bullard (68.4)
16.) Jaquelin Roy (66.6)
17.) Alexander Mattison (66.6)
18.) Johnny Mundt (65.5)
19.) Brian O'Neill (61.6)
20.) Jordan Addison (61.2)
21.) Christian Darrisaw (61.1)
22.) Trishton Jackson (60.0)
23.) KJ Osborn (58.8)
24.) Brandon Powell (58.6)
25.) Harrison Phillips (57.8)
26.) CJ Ham (57.4)
27.) Andre Carter (54.6)
28.) TJ Hockenson (54.5)
29.) Mekhi Blackmon (53.4)
30.) Pat Jones II (50.4)
31.) DJ Wonnum (49.7)
32.) Dean Lowry (47.6)
33.) Theo Jackson (41.7)
34.) Byron Murphy Jr. (41.1)
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The only negative of QB Caleb Williams is my endorsement, as I tend to be right about 40% of the time.

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ORIGINAL: David F.


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@vikesinsider
Week 3 #Vikings PFF grades, ranked:

1.) Jordan Hicks (89.2)
2.) Josh Oliver (86.5)
3.) Danielle Hunter (85.2)
4.) Justin Jefferson (84.5)
5.) Ed Ingram (81.5)
6.) Ezra Cleveland (79.9)
7.) Josh Metellus (76.2)
8.) Harrison Smith (73.9)
9.) Ivan Pace Jr. (72.2)
10.) Kirk Cousins (71.5)
11.) Akayleb Evans (71.0)
12.) Cam Bynum (70.3)
13.) Austin Schlottmann (69.7)
14.) Ty Chandler (68.5)
15.) Jonathan Bullard (68.4)
16.) Jaquelin Roy (66.6)
17.) Alexander Mattison (66.6)
18.) Johnny Mundt (65.5)
19.) Brian O'Neill (61.6)
20.) Jordan Addison (61.2)
21.) Christian Darrisaw (61.1)
22.) Trishton Jackson (60.0)
23.) KJ Osborn (58.8)
24.) Brandon Powell (58.6)
25.) Harrison Phillips (57.8)
26.) CJ Ham (57.4)
27.) Andre Carter (54.6)
28.) TJ Hockenson (54.5)
29.) Mekhi Blackmon (53.4)
30.) Pat Jones II (50.4)
31.) DJ Wonnum (49.7)
32.) Dean Lowry (47.6)
33.) Theo Jackson (41.7)
34.) Byron Murphy Jr. (41.1)
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Do Jones II and Wonnum do anything?

Give Whitley or Vilain a chance.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

The Vikings have an excellent offensive line and I'm standing by that. You can quote me.

Ingram is probably dead last in all OLine categories.

If we replace him, we could get up to middle of the pack.

Pretty sure David was being sarcastic with that post

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Really liked David's time-to-throw research. The only thing questionable thing is SD's defense is 28th in points allowed after three games, so perhaps they don't pressure opposing QBs enough. Only three games though. Philly ran through the OL like butter, but that is a top DL so it's difficult to generalize from them as well.

It looks like KFC has little time, but perhaps he should be shouldering more of the blame (as mentioned a lot, he holds the ball too long, he's a statue, he's 35). IMO an OL study is important because I'd like to think/hope the OL is good enough so that we could focus only on QB and defense in the offseason. But ughhh, IMO we still need upgrades in at least two IOL positions.

There's so many small details that the fan will never pick up on unless we watch and rewatch the games in detail and then watch quite a few youtubers and bloggers also analyze the games. That link I posted in the middle of last week was a couple of ex-linemen going over the play wher Kirk got strip-sacked vs Tampa. They pointed out that we had 3 passcatchers left and 1 right and Tampa only had 2 defenders covering the 3 passcatchers. The ex-linemen said a vet QB should see that and instantly know that the D will drop a passrusher into coverage into those 3 passcatchers and the pressure will then come from the right. THey said it was the QB's responsibilty to change the protection at the line of scrimmage for that but our QB didn't.

To the naked eye it looked like the passrush came untouched (which it did) but in reality the protection needed to be changed and then the QB also needed to move to the left at the snap. There are dozens of little things like this going on over the course of three games.

When someone says, "bad lines seem to follow Cousins around" or "things just don't bounce his way", or whatever else what they're really saying is that over the course of an 11-year-career, he's just not picked up on or mastered a bunch of these small things.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

The Vikings have an excellent offensive line and I'm standing by that. You can quote me.

Ingram is probably dead last in all OLine categories.

If we replace him, we could get up to middle of the pack.

Pretty sure David was being sarcastic with that post

Dead serious.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: David F.

The Vikings have an excellent offensive line and I'm standing by that. You can quote me.

Ingram is probably dead last in all OLine categories.

If we replace him, we could get up to middle of the pack.

Pretty sure David was being sarcastic with that post

Dead serious.

As pointed out this was the 32nd ranked defense we faced. Ingram obviously had a "come to Jesus game" after signing Risner. Loved your research buddy but delve into the tape on the first two games ( or of last year ) and you may have a change of opinion.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

We’ve been conditioned to believe that Kirk always has the “worst” of all the supporting components and no one bothered to go fact check any of it.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: David F.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzfLYsjgK7M

OK. Let's look at pressure on our QB objectively. That link is to the condensed game. It takes 47 minutes to watch. I just went through every offensive play and used a timer to gauge if we allowed a pressure on a play. I used three seconds. If the ball is out or no defender is about to make contact at three seconds I determined it to be a play free of pressure. I came up with 58 pass plays. Some were negated by penalties. I didn't have the time to sort those out. Here are the resutls:

Out of 58 pass plays I determined that the Chargers got pressure clearly on six plays. There are also two plays where Cousins is sacked or hit at exactly three seconds so let's count those also. That makes eight plays out of 58 or 14% of drop backs.

Kirk successfully navigated the pressure three of the plays including throwing a TD pass on one of them.

His sacks came at 3, 5, 6, and 5 seconds so like I said I counted the 3 second one as a pressure.

I saved my notes on this so if anyone else wants to go through the plays like I did and disagree with my results I'm willing to take a look.

14% pressure rate and half the fan base talks about "running for his life from the onset of the snap on every play".

3 seconds seems sort of arbitrary to me. but it is a nice analysis.

For some QBs 3 seconds is all they need. for many, they need more. So it depends more on the QB. For a Justin Herbert 3 seconds is more than enough time. For a Kirk Cousins it probably isn't. But i do appreciate the effort you made to analyze this. and stand corrected.

It just seems like our Oline is completely ineffective at providing a clean pocket. or at protecting the QB in general. He gets hit a lot even as he makes a successful throw. and Cousins does hold the ball too long frequently.

It just looks like the pocket collapses almost instantaneously every snap and even if no hit is made that adds pressure to the QB.

Again. I applaud your analysis and stand corrected.

Well done on that.

I just think there is far more to it than your analysis provides.

I find that when I go back the following day and can replay each play multiple times I realize that my emotions during my first viewing can skew my reality on what really happened.