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Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 10:45:08 AM)
so until you know the future it’s hard to know whether to take the reins or not WTF does that even mean? Sounds like a drug-induced reason to not be decisive. Maybe he watched Minority Report the night prior.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 10:51:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott https://sports.yahoo.com/zulgad-kirk-cousins-indecision-reason-013455777.html The indecisive Kirk Cousins. This article IMHO hits the nail on the proverbial head. And there it is... “I could do anything I want,” Cousins said. “I can do the quarterback sneak. I can do whatever I want, but at the same time you also have to deal with the consequences. Against Buffalo last year I snuck it on my own and didn’t get in, so until you know the future it’s hard to know whether to take the reins or not, but I’ve done it before. I try not to make a habit of it, certainly.” Sneak the damn thing every time - before you hand hand off to a rb headed into the interior line on short yardage Tom Brady, 82% on sneaks in NE. Of course his center and guards probably were an upgrade over Bradbury, Schlottman, Ingram. But still, who here doesn't feel everytime we hand the ball off on short yardage to a rb it fails. Obviously those failures stick out in your brain more but still it feels like all the time

Mark C. Johnson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 11:01:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott https://sports.yahoo.com/zulgad-kirk-cousins-indecision-reason-013455777.html The indecisive Kirk Cousins. This article IMHO hits the nail on the proverbial head. And there it is... “I could do anything I want,” Cousins said. “I can do the quarterback sneak. I can do whatever I want, but at the same time you also have to deal with the consequences. Against Buffalo last year I snuck it on my own and didn’t get in, so until you know the future it’s hard to know whether to take the reins or not, but I’ve done it before. I try not to make a habit of it, certainly.” He doesn't "make a habit" of "taking the reins"? What? If not the QB, then who does he think is supposed to "take the reins"? Trade him today. That's an unbelievable statement from an NFL quarterback.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 11:06:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott https://sports.yahoo.com/zulgad-kirk-cousins-indecision-reason-013455777.html The indecisive Kirk Cousins. This article IMHO hits the nail on the proverbial head. And there it is... “I could do anything I want,” Cousins said. “I can do the quarterback sneak. I can do whatever I want, but at the same time you also have to deal with the consequences. Against Buffalo last year I snuck it on my own and didn’t get in, so until you know the future it’s hard to know whether to take the reins or not, but I’ve done it before. I try not to make a habit of it, certainly.” He doesn't "make a habit" of "taking the reins"? What? If not the QB, then who does he think is supposed to "take the reins"? Trade him today. That's an unbelievable statement from an NFL quarterback. Now I understand why he plays like he does. Definitely not a leader by his own admission not mine.

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 11:06:57 AM)
The Vikings are in a 4 way tie for first place, and control their destiny, towards getting the 1st pick in the draft. With Cincinnati winning, the remaining 0-3 teams are Minnesota, Carolina, Denver and Chicago. The Vikings can lose to all of them, and get the 1st pick in the draft.

thebigo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 11:35:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young Jalen Hurtz is better than KFC Baker Mayfield is better than KFC Justin Fields is better than KFC… Jordan Love is better than KFC Jarred Goff is better than KFC Justin Herbert is better than KFC Brock Purdy is better than KFC Patrick Mahomes if a first ballot HOF, obviously better than KFC The Philly defense is the best in the NFC. Agree with most, but if we had a season of Justin Fields we'd be begging for Cousins back. Fields has to be one of the single biggest wastes draft capital in history. On the heels of turd biscuit

Trekgeekscott -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 11:36:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer Reid didn't win until he got Mahomes but he made it there plenty. Before Mahomes he got there just once. And that team had still good McNabb and Terrell Owens.

Trekgeekscott -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 11:41:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David F. quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott https://sports.yahoo.com/zulgad-kirk-cousins-indecision-reason-013455777.html The indecisive Kirk Cousins. This article IMHO hits the nail on the proverbial head. And there it is... “I could do anything I want,” Cousins said. “I can do the quarterback sneak. I can do whatever I want, but at the same time you also have to deal with the consequences. Against Buffalo last year I snuck it on my own and didn’t get in, so until you know the future it’s hard to know whether to take the reins or not, but I’ve done it before. I try not to make a habit of it, certainly.” What I heard when i read this is "I am afraid of the consequences if I do things on my own and they fail."

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 12:16:49 PM)
This explains the Kirko Chainz thing. His teammates were trying to bolster his self confidence so that he'd be less reliant on having to be spoon-fed all of his decisions. It's a shame because when he's forced into situations where he has no choice but to make his own decisions he has historically been brilliant. His self-doubt is what keeps him in the "good" category when he could be great.

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 12:25:58 PM)
Matt Fries @FriesFootball · 1h Kirk Cousins has been pressured on 32.4% of his dropbacks so far this year, 13th in the NFL. That's his lowest pressure rate as a Viking, his lowest personal rate since 2016. It's the lowest rate for a Vikings QB since 2012. Despite being 25th in % of drop backs under 2.5s

Murph -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 12:47:32 PM)
Fire Kwesi asap Hire a GM that can evaluate football talent first and foremost. I don't want Kwesi drafting another player, let alone a high pick spent on a QB. Then trade Kirk, trade Hunter for 2024 draft assets. Draft your QB next year. Hire an OC you trust enough to turn over the offense, scheme and play calling to him or fire O'Connell. The play calling and offense as whole are not creative. Fix both offensive and defensive lines. Piece of cake.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 1:05:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty The Vikings are in a 4 way tie for first place, and control their destiny, towards getting the 1st pick in the draft. With Cincinnati winning, the remaining 0-3 teams are Minnesota, Carolina, Denver and Chicago. The Vikings can lose to all of them, and get the 1st pick in the draft. And then we'll beat Washington and lose out in selecting RG .... never mind got lost there for a second

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 1:20:11 PM)
. this is from the new york times; they have us ranked 25th.... The only concern about Kirk Cousins in Minnesota is how long he’ll be there. He’s on pace for 6,091 yards and 51 touchdowns this year. Despite Patrick Mahomes existing and Tua Tagovailoa throwing to a collection of aliens, Cousins leads the league in passing yards (1,075) and passing touchdowns (nine). On Sunday, he became the fifth player ever with at least 325 passing yards and two touchdowns in each of his team’s first three games. The Jets, Falcons, and maybe the Saints have to be interested in that.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 1:41:31 PM)
For those who will be sad that KFC is gone in 2024, here is something you can hold onto: https://overthecap.com/player/kirk-cousins/1443 He will be with us in spirit with his 11% share of the cap.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 1:42:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Murph Fire Kwesi asap Hire a GM that can evaluate football talent first and foremost. I don't want Kwesi drafting another player, let alone a high pick spent on a QB. Then trade Kirk, trade Hunter for 2024 draft assets. Draft your QB next year. Hire an OC you trust enough to turn over the offense, scheme and play calling to him or fire O'Connell. The play calling and offense as whole are not creative. Fix both offensive and defensive lines. Piece of cake. +1. Let's get the Tank battalion rolling!

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 2:11:31 PM)
Implosion for the Trojan. Haha that’s the best one I’ve seen so far.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 4:27:35 PM)
Minnesota Vikings @Vikings The #Vikings have released RB Myles Gaskin.

kevinemmer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 4:59:46 PM)
Trade him to the Falcons. His wife's family is there. They got married in the area. His family is in Florida. The Falcons might actually have a shot at the division and have plenty of weapons Kirk can check the ball down to, and the Falcons are looking for a long term QB. He might wave his no trade to go there. Ship him out. Load up with picks. I'd rather watch Jaren Hall the rest of the year, and see what we have in him. Sounds better than continuing to have the same conversations about Kirk year after year. Rip off the bandaid. I'm over it. I approve of this message

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 5:05:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kevinemmer Trade him to the Falcons. His wife's family is there. They got married in the area. His family is in Florida. The Falcons might actually have a shot at the division and have plenty of weapons Kirk can check the ball down to, and the Falcons are looking for a long term QB. He might wave his no trade to go there. Ship him out. Load up with picks. I'd rather watch Jaren Hall the rest of the year, and see what we have in him. Sounds better than continuing to have the same conversations about Kirk year after year. Rip off the bandaid. I'm over it. I approve of this message Sold.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 5:27:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kevinemmer Trade him to the Falcons. His wife's family is there. They got married in the area. His family is in Florida. The Falcons might actually have a shot at the division and have plenty of weapons Kirk can check the ball down to, and the Falcons are looking for a long term QB. He might wave his no trade to go there. Ship him out. Load up with picks. I'd rather watch Jaren Hall the rest of the year, and see what we have in him. Sounds better than continuing to have the same conversations about Kirk year after year. Rip off the bandaid. I'm over it. I approve of this message Love it. Fans love QB stats, and Kirk is on a roll. Trade him quick before their fan base has a mutiny after looking past the numbers.

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/26/2023 6:04:31 PM)
Falcons, Jets, Saints, anyone that will take him.

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/27/2023 12:39:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young Jalen Hurtz is better than KFC Baker Mayfield is better than KFC Justin Fields is better than KFC… Jordan Love is better than KFC Jarred Goff is better than KFC Justin Herbert is better than KFC Brock Purdy is better than KFC Patrick Mahomes if a first ballot HOF, obviously better than KFC The Philly defense is the best in the NFC. Agree with most, but if we had a season of Justin Fields we'd be begging for Cousins back. Fields has to be one of the single biggest wastes draft capital in history. On the heels of turd biscuit He’s 24, not 38.. For all you know, his upside might be Jalen Hurtz His downside might be Christian Ponder.. Right now, in those rosters and on those teams, if KFC and Justin Fields, switched teams, I doubt we’d be 0-3, but Chicago still would still be 0-3.

Arlowe84 -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/27/2023 6:28:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: kevinemmer Trade him to the Falcons. His wife's family is there. They got married in the area. His family is in Florida. The Falcons might actually have a shot at the division and have plenty of weapons Kirk can check the ball down to, and the Falcons are looking for a long term QB. He might wave his no trade to go there. Ship him out. Load up with picks. I'd rather watch Jaren Hall the rest of the year, and see what we have in him. Sounds better than continuing to have the same conversations about Kirk year after year. Rip off the bandaid. I'm over it. I approve of this message Sold. He’s played golf multiple times at the golf course my brother is a member of in Atlanta He’s supposedly going to join when he retires So the tie to Atlanta is very much grounded in reality

Arlowe84 -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/27/2023 6:32:07 AM)
Omg. Also look at the interior d line analysis Viking d lineman just littered in the bottom quandrant Wonnum, Jones, Lowry in a tier of their own. Even Phillips in bottom of the league Confirms what I said Sunday. Vikings have worst dline by a mile They are so devoid of talent best case 2 year fix https://x.com/pff_moo/status/1706711602718761150?s=46&t=VV8Voz0Rov_nntUSULfRkA

TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/27/2023 6:37:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young quote: ORIGINAL: thebigo quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young Jalen Hurtz is better than KFC Baker Mayfield is better than KFC Justin Fields is better than KFC… Jordan Love is better than KFC Jarred Goff is better than KFC Justin Herbert is better than KFC Brock Purdy is better than KFC Patrick Mahomes if a first ballot HOF, obviously better than KFC The Philly defense is the best in the NFC. Agree with most, but if we had a season of Justin Fields we'd be begging for Cousins back. Fields has to be one of the single biggest wastes draft capital in history. On the heels of turd biscuit He’s 24, not 38.. For all you know, his upside might be Jalen Hurtz His downside might be Christian Ponder.. Right now, in those rosters and on those teams, if KFC and Justin Fields, switched teams, I doubt we’d be 0-3, but Chicago still would still be 0-3. Hurts is a.QB who happens to be a great athlete. Fields is a great athlete who happens to play QB.

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