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Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 11:42:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer In 6 1/2 games Kirk has 16 TDs and 5 Ints..... Need that production if you replace him....that isn't stans it is common sense. He will never do that again.. and it wasn’t “ all KFC”.. The game is a team game and his record is / was 4-4.. What were his stats in the other 1.5 games you decided not to cherry pick, Stanley??

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 11:46:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young You think I was “ quiet” while the team was going 13-5 and one and done? What a revisionist you are… We won 11 games that season on pure luck and fluke plays.. Buffalo… Comes to mind.. The TEAM bai,d him an KOC’s ass out by creating improbabl, and record setting wins in 1 score games.. That 13-5 season is the only reason KFC has 8 games above a .500 career win %. We went 4-4 with “ Saint Kirk” and his hypocrisy of faith.. He is a false idol om QB play, and the Stans worship the very toilet he shits in. It’s been Six seasons… What has this team accomplished with this dweeb at QB? Making the playoffs is a really really low bar.. Especially when making the playoffs is a one game souk crushing disappointment, year after year. ** the stats.. his “ wholesomeness “ He will NEVER win when it matters… Not with the Chickenshiy playcalling and play not to lose mentality of the HeadCoah and QB combination. Our cap situation is a hot FN mess, and we have player FAR more valuable than KFC, to use that cap money on. Move on… FFS. Care to list them?? Did you not watch a single game last season? JFC. No.. I, as a **ing thinking adult, do not , nor am I required, to educate ignorant STANS. You said we won 11 games on lucky or fluke plays. Name them or shut up. I don’t have to name shit and you can’t prove otherwise.. Name the 11 wins in one score games the he won all by his brilliant leadership and stat padding accomplishments.. Or shut up… Cmon Stanley.. proof his infallible Leadership in one score games… Show me the fn Monopoly money …

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 11:49:32 AM)
Who cares, he's gone! Yet the butt hurts will stay butt hurt. And they will cling to imagined what-if visions and who-knows scenarios that have KFC leading us to all sorts of success! The butt hurts might first ask themselves why Kwesi would let their imagined superstar flail away in the last year of his contract. That is rarely done, and when it happens it is usually a sign that the team is moving on. Kwesi should be public enemy #1 for them. Instead, they vent against other posters. Free agency can't get here soon enough... be free Kirk, be free....

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 11:49:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer In 6 1/2 games Kirk has 16 TDs and 5 Ints..... Need that production if you replace him....that isn't stans it is common sense. He will never do that again.. and it wasn’t “ all KFC”.. The game is a team game and his record is / was 4-4.. What were his stats in the other 1.5 games you decided not to cherry pick, Stanley?? So after watching Mullins Dobbs and Hall....you still think it is a Cherry pick? JJ wasn't available in 3 of the games.....

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 11:51:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Who cares, he's gone! Yet the butt hurts will stay butt hurt. And they will cling to imagined what-if visions and who-knows scenarios that have KFC leading us to all sorts of success! The butt hurts might first ask themselves why Kwesi would let their imagined superstar flail away in the last year of his contract. That is rarely done, and when it happens it is usually a sign that the team is moving on. Kwesi should be public enemy #1 for them. Instead, they vent against other posters. Free agency can't get here soon enough... be free Kirk, be free.... Common sense isn't working for you either? Butt hurts more on the Sans side. You need production from the QB plain and simple....if they can't draft and/or sign one they will resign Kirk.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 11:55:23 AM)
I see blocked and butt hurt Phil is still at it. The same clown whose first post after KFC's injury was ~ Hope you're happy you got what you wanted. The venting started immediately! Entertaining! Thank god Kwesi told KFC and his agent to go pound sand in response to their foolish and unwarranted demands.

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 11:58:15 AM)
I’d rather watch Dobbs or Hall befor KOC tries/ tried to pound them into the statue pocket passer game plan he can’t even run because the OL is trashed.. Dobbs first two games were exciting and a breath of looong needed fresh air.. A Mobil creative QB who could extend plays….. Yea, he imploded after being “forced” into the “KFC” way… But for a brief Two weeks.. it looked like we might salvage something… How has KFC clone Mullet been doing in KOC’s KFC based offense? You think Cousins would have had 0 turn overs if he had stayed the starter… His history says otherwise.. And what ever you believe “ coulda” happened, is irrelevant.. because KOC and this team’s record is REALITY kicking you in the face.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 11:58:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Anything can happen, lol. Since Cousins has just one playoff win in 12 years, what are the odds of him stringing together two consecutive wins? Or three? Perhaps people live vicariously through him, to include collecting $35+ million a year. Right ... I misspoke ... I meant to say the chance of a singular victory, not a singular chance. Making it to the playoffs to try to win one is the aspiration of a mediocre to bad team's fanbase. Fans of the Ravens, Bills, Chiefs, Dolphins, Eagles, Cowboys, 49ers will be apoplectic if they only win one in playoffs. I want to be where they are.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 12:01:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J re: we would have won that one easily with Kirk - do doubt -- not surprising how the "experts" in here like to trash anyone that was a fan of Kirk. Nice bunch of fellas for sure Not surprising how you trash the fans you accuse of trashing the fans.

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 12:02:58 PM)
You have really low standards… KFC level Standards..

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 12:06:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young You have really low standards… KFC level Standards.. Explain to me which of my low standards you're referring to ...

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 12:12:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Anything can happen, lol. Since Cousins has just one playoff win in 12 years, what are the odds of him stringing together two consecutive wins? Or three? Perhaps people live vicariously through him, to include collecting $35+ million a year. Right ... I misspoke ... I meant to say the chance of a singular victory, not a singular chance. Making it to the playoffs to try to win one is the aspiration of a mediocre to bad team's fanbase. Fans of the Ravens, Bills, Chiefs, Dolphins, Eagles, Cowboys, 49ers will be apoplectic if they only win one in playoffs. I want to be where they are. No, I was laughing at the anything can happen stance in general that pops up on here periodically. Re the bolded, JC was right. People accept mediocrity. More servings of one and done please by a .500 (.200 in the playoffs) QB.

Mark Anderson -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 12:16:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young quote: ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson quote: ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young You think I was “ quiet” while the team was going 13-5 and one and done? What a revisionist you are… We won 11 games that season on pure luck and fluke plays.. Buffalo… Comes to mind.. The TEAM bai,d him an KOC’s ass out by creating improbabl, and record setting wins in 1 score games.. That 13-5 season is the only reason KFC has 8 games above a .500 career win %. We went 4-4 with “ Saint Kirk” and his hypocrisy of faith.. He is a false idol om QB play, and the Stans worship the very toilet he shits in. It’s been Six seasons… What has this team accomplished with this dweeb at QB? Making the playoffs is a really really low bar.. Especially when making the playoffs is a one game souk crushing disappointment, year after year. ** the stats.. his “ wholesomeness “ He will NEVER win when it matters… Not with the Chickenshiy playcalling and play not to lose mentality of the HeadCoah and QB combination. Our cap situation is a hot FN mess, and we have player FAR more valuable than KFC, to use that cap money on. Move on… FFS. Care to list them?? Did you not watch a single game last season? JFC. No.. I, as a **ing thinking adult, do not , nor am I required, to educate ignorant STANS. You said we won 11 games on lucky or fluke plays. Name them or shut up. I don’t have to name shit and you can’t prove otherwise.. Name the 11 wins in one score games the he won all by his brilliant leadership and stat padding accomplishments.. Or shut up… Cmon Stanley.. proof his infallible Leadership in one score games… Show me the fn Monopoly money … Just called you out on your BS. That's all. And you had nothing. Keep posting your jr high butt favry, stans comments.

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 12:21:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: Todd M quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J -- not surprising how the "experts" in here like to trash anyone that was a fan of Kirk. Nice bunch of fellas for sure Disagree. Person A likes thing 3 Person B does not Person A feels attacked This is the world and why we can’t have progress and change. Projection and ownership of the negative. “I really like that thing they think is stupid. They must think I’m stupid!” And around we go… It isn't just they don't want Kirk to be QB. When we were 13-4 they were quiet.....but this year and the last Zimmer year..... No one was quiet. Here's a post of mine from 12/20/2022. These unusual (understatement) wins show many of our team's weaknesses. For example - how do you set the record for biggest comeback? You have to get behind by a lot - against a poor team. It makes no logical sense. A good team would never give that lead back. A bad team SHOULD NEVER HAVE THAT LEAD IN THE FIRST PLACE. Kirk's accuracy is an issue as well as his complete non-awareness of the current down-and-distance, what quarter it is, what the score is, etc... The defense is terrible until they need to be excellent and then for a small portion of the game they are in fact excellent. Cook dances at the line and loses yards when there's an easy three yards for the taking and then later he breaks free for an epic TD - breaking tackles and juking defenders the whole way. Sometimes a random offensive line player will just whiff completely on the defense's best pass rusher - they guy they've been scheming for all week. Then later they'll go an entire quarter dominating in brilliant fashion. Hockenson drops an easy third-down catch in quarter one and hangs on for a near-impossible catch in quarter four. Jefferson - well Jefferson is all-world throughout every game - so we've got that going for us. WE'RE A WEIRD TEAM. With all this being said, I think because of all these strange happenings it's very possible that the team might have picked up a very important trait that all championship teams share: They likely feel like they can win any game regardless of what's going on. Pat Peterson wasn't joking at halftime when he said "the D would go out and stop them and the O would only need five touchdowns - THAT'S NOTHING". He believed it. So did the rest of the team. Well maybe except for Kirk who I assume was plugged into his docking station to recharge batteries and await his next command. In all seriousness though, I believe in this team. Not because of any particular matchup but because they're currently carrying a champion's attitude. Look at that Shelly guy. He's out there on the field walking like he's ten feet tall. Vikes are winning the Super Bowl this year. Bookmark it.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 12:22:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J re: we would have won that one easily with Kirk - do doubt -- not surprising how the "experts" in here like to trash anyone that was a fan of Kirk. Nice bunch of fellas for sure Not surprising how you trash the fans you accuse of trashing the fans. That's because it's the only thing left for them. They cannot with a straight face point to KFC's career success. They cannot with a straight face point to KFC's low cost contracts. They for some reason have a blind spot for Kwesi letting Cousins walk. So (predictably) what's left?

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 12:27:24 PM)
Here's another from me on 12/17/2022 (please stop making shit up - you know we can just go look these up right?): Dude is tough and without a doubt he isn't a bad QB. He's a good QB. He also seems to not be aware or not give a darn whether it's first down, third down, or fourth down. He also seems unaware that it's fourth-quarter-down-two-scores or first-quarter-tied-zero-zero. Toss one up there on fourth down when we're in desperation mode? Heck no - I'll take a sack or run for one yard. All this being said, this is the single greatest season in Vikings' history. 100% unpredictable and finding ways to miracle wins. I've never been so entertained watching the games in all my life - including the good Favre year. Skol!

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 12:32:12 PM)
I read somewhere that if the Vikings lose their last 2 games, and certain teams win their games, that the Vikings could draft as high as #5. Is this true ?

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 12:35:37 PM)
Just called you out on your BS. That's all. And you had nothing. Keep posting your jr high butt favry, stans comments. This isn't really my conversation but just off the top of my head I remember our defense yanking the ball from Imir Smith-Marsette's hands as he was running up the sideline to seal a Bears win over us. Also the Buffalo game we had to score a defensive TD. Obvious one - the biggest comeback in history vs Indy, EDIT - our first game at home vs Detroit we hit a late long TD pass after Dan Campbell went for it on 4th down when a FG would have sealed the game.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 12:41:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David F. Just called you out on your BS. That's all. And you had nothing. Keep posting your jr high butt favry, stans comments. This isn't really my conversation but just off the top of my head I remember our defense yanking the ball from Imir Smith-Marsette's hands as he was running up the sideline to seal a Bears win over us. Also the Buffalo game we had to score a defensive TD. Obvious one - the biggest comeback in history vs Indy, EDIT - our first game at home vs Detroit we hit a late long TD pass after Dan Campbell went for it on 4th down when a FG would have sealed the game. We also played a shitload of backup or unknown QBs. That in itself was a bit flukey. This year with the rash of QB injuries it's more league-wide.

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 12:49:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: David F. Just called you out on your BS. That's all. And you had nothing. Keep posting your jr high butt favry, stans comments. This isn't really my conversation but just off the top of my head I remember our defense yanking the ball from Imir Smith-Marsette's hands as he was running up the sideline to seal a Bears win over us. Also the Buffalo game we had to score a defensive TD. Obvious one - the biggest comeback in history vs Indy, EDIT - our first game at home vs Detroit we hit a late long TD pass after Dan Campbell went for it on 4th down when a FG would have sealed the game. We also played a shitload of backup or unknown QBs. That in itself was a bit flukey. This year with the rash of QB injuries it's more league-wide. Ah yes - I just looked through the box scores. Against the Saints we got Andy Dalton, Miami was Teddy, Washington was Taylor Heinicke (maybe he was the actual starter though?), Jets gave us Mike White and the second Bears game was Nate Peterman.

Daniel Lee Young -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 1:01:21 PM)
Yea Mr “matrix” Anderson lives in the simulation, where his view of the reality is tainted by the “mediocrity is fine” nose feed tube that controls his life.. He wants me to name specific games.. like it’s my duty to inform.. Last season set a possibly never to be equaled record for team wins in 1 score games.. and DF has provided three examples of how much an outlier those wins were.. But carry on… Thinking we coulda won it all, or that KFC shoulda been the league or SB MVP, and KFC woulda been extended, immediate after 2022 because, you know.. playoffs.. “ I’d kill to be in the playoffs… again..” ( one and done guaranteed).. Low standards and mediocrity is fine… Not for me. KFC is a wate of time and money and HIS PLANT FOOT IS DAMAGED! JFC. herp- a -derp “we can’t survive without his holiness..” “WhatEver will we do without him?” Pearl clutching, teeth gnashing, hand wringing, STANS..

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 1:12:49 PM)
Once again...he gave top 5 production w/o JJ. A rookie WR and a TE were the main targets for most of his games....same as Mahomes (who has struggled mightilty this season with similar WR talent). Who produced more passing TDs? Will common sense prevail is the question? Is it really the Sans crowd that are butt hurt to a common sense question? Tune into to the next episode of comical explanations from Dan and Bill on your batstation at the next bat time. Suggest common sense of a returning top 10 QB if no other solution works and you get 20 sentences of drivel.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 1:17:03 PM)
Spielman is the color guy in a weekly podcast called "With the first pick". They will have to find a lot of things to talk about leading up to the draft. But this board does so every year so it shouldn't be a problem for them.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 1:24:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Anything can happen, lol. Since Cousins has just one playoff win in 12 years, what are the odds of him stringing together two consecutive wins? Or three? Perhaps people live vicariously through him, to include collecting $35+ million a year. Right ... I misspoke ... I meant to say the chance of a singular victory, not a singular chance. Making it to the playoffs to try to win one is the aspiration of a mediocre to bad team's fanbase. Fans of the Ravens, Bills, Chiefs, Dolphins, Eagles, Cowboys, 49ers will be apoplectic if they only win one in playoffs. I want to be where they are. No, I was laughing at the anything can happen stance in general that pops up on here periodically. Re the bolded, JC was right. People accept mediocrity. More servings of one and done please by a .500 (.200 in the playoffs) QB. Its our culture at this point. Some people would rather doggie paddle with Cousins indefinitely ... than try new QB options to try and reach shore. Even though you know Cousins is just a temporary arm floatie that dissolves in water. He won't get you all the way in, he only gets you to the closest buoy from shore but for some, and that's a-ok. https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-06-2022/nEbdKj.gif

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (12/26/2023 1:27:00 PM)
Last season set a possibly never to be equaled record for team wins in 1 score games. Agree, 11-0 just seems otherworldly. The very definition of a fluke season/stat. Why people hang their hat on such a fluke in defense of KFC makes no sense. Straw grasping I guess. Besides, 0-1 in the playoffs is more important as Cousins showed who he really is on 3rd and 8 with the playoff game on the line. He was happy to morph into Kirk Legos.

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