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ORIGINAL: David Levine

So we'll be heading into Year 3 of the KAM/KOC era and the closest thing they've done to finding a successor for Cousins is spend a 5th round pick on a 25 year-old project.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Kwesi has not done a good job. Period. The only thing he has working for him are soft owners and a “too soon to fire” window.

For me it’s not only the picks and what missing on 2 contributors has cost it’s the way he went about it. Passing on a star S for a bum.

Cine did make his 1st big boy tackle. It’s like a 2 year old “baby” bird finally leave the nest.

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

Kwesi has not done a good job. Period. The only thing he has working for him are soft owners and a “too soon to fire” window.

For me it’s not only the picks and what missing on 2 contributors has cost it’s the way he went about it. Passing on a star S for a bum.

Cine did make his 1st big boy tackle. It’s like a 2 year old “baby” bird finally leave the nest.

This!

I'm ok with trading down if you have a plan. Trading back, with a division rival, to pick a S......when the #1 rated stud is sitting right there is just plain stupid. It's like he thought he had some grand scheme and it all collapsed in a second so he panicked.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Michael Penix QB Washington
by Drew Boylhart • December 26, 2023

STRENGTHS
Michael is the pocket-passing extraordinaire quarterback of this draft. His accuracy and overall arm talent from the pocket are franchise-like. He has the size and arm velocity in the red zone to defeat any style or type of defense. Michael shows leadership skills through his play on the field. He will make the throw with accuracy, that most NFL quarterbacks can’t make. Michael has the arm talent to make the players around him better. His ability to make plays in the passing game opens up the ability to run the ball and that is the definition of a franchise quarterback. If the team that selects him protects him in the pocket with a good offensive line, I guarantee, you will see Michael in the Super Bowl.

CONCERNS
Injuries have made Michael a pocket passer and stolen his quickness when flushed out of the pocket. He must learn to manipulate the pocket better and not take the big hits in the pocket or he will never make it through a 17-game schedule. He has to become more “Tom Brady like” to gain better passing lanes, set up his offensive line better, and keep himself healthy.

BOTTOM LINE: 1.47
Because we don’t have Tight Ends that block or fullbacks, and teams send 6 players from the defense against 5 offensive linemen, the NFL is now looking for a more athletic quarterback who can extend plays running the ball and throwing the ball on the run. At one time, Michael was one of those types of quarterbacks. Now Michael is a pocket-passing extraordinaire type of quarterback; believe me, those are rare, especially with Michael’s accuracy. There is no throw in the NFL quarterback book, that Michael can’t make with the velocity, accuracy, or touch, needed to bring a team from behind to win a game. Don’t worry about drafting receivers because Michael can make anyone a better receiver. Don’t worry about drafting a running back because Michael will force teams to play light in the box allowing his running back to run the ball effectively. Just worry about one thing after you select Michael…drafting and finding offensive lineman to protect him. You do that and trust me, Michael will take you to a Super Bowl.

https://www.thehuddlereport.com/blog/?p=3884

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

Michael Penix QB Washington
by Drew Boylhart • December 26, 2023

STRENGTHS
Michael is the pocket-passing extraordinaire quarterback of this draft. His accuracy and overall arm talent from the pocket are franchise-like. He has the size and arm velocity in the red zone to defeat any style or type of defense. Michael shows leadership skills through his play on the field. He will make the throw with accuracy, that most NFL quarterbacks can’t make. Michael has the arm talent to make the players around him better. His ability to make plays in the passing game opens up the ability to run the ball and that is the definition of a franchise quarterback. If the team that selects him protects him in the pocket with a good offensive line, I guarantee, you will see Michael in the Super Bowl.

CONCERNS
Injuries have made Michael a pocket passer and stolen his quickness when flushed out of the pocket. He must learn to manipulate the pocket better and not take the big hits in the pocket or he will never make it through a 17-game schedule. He has to become more “Tom Brady like” to gain better passing lanes, set up his offensive line better, and keep himself healthy.

BOTTOM LINE: 1.47
Because we don’t have Tight Ends that block or fullbacks, and teams send 6 players from the defense against 5 offensive linemen, the NFL is now looking for a more athletic quarterback who can extend plays running the ball and throwing the ball on the run. At one time, Michael was one of those types of quarterbacks. Now Michael is a pocket-passing extraordinaire type of quarterback; believe me, those are rare, especially with Michael’s accuracy. There is no throw in the NFL quarterback book, that Michael can’t make with the velocity, accuracy, or touch, needed to bring a team from behind to win a game. Don’t worry about drafting receivers because Michael can make anyone a better receiver. Don’t worry about drafting a running back because Michael will force teams to play light in the box allowing his running back to run the ball effectively. Just worry about one thing after you select Michael…drafting and finding offensive lineman to protect him. You do that and trust me, Michael will take you to a Super Bowl.

https://www.thehuddlereport.com/blog/?p=3884

Good read my man. He showed last night that he can still haunt you with his legs too. Just not like his early days at Indiana. Keeping him healthy will be paramount. Not sure our line can do that though. Would be a really interesting, yet firghtening, pick.

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ORIGINAL: Mark C. Johnson

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

So we'll be heading into Year 3 of the KAM/KOC era and the closest thing they've done to finding a successor for Cousins is spend a 5th round pick on a 25 year-old project.

Kwesi is a bust. Wish we had Ryan Poles, the GM of the Bears. He has an option with Fields as QB, the No. 1 pick and currently the No. 10 pick, I think. The Bears also has boats loads of cash to spend on free agency. Both Kwesi and Poles started their jobs in the same year. Kwesi has no plan, no direction and no clue.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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The competitive rebuild was the wrong course of action and I was strongly in favor of a tear down. We did get to enjoy an entertaining yet hollow 13-4 season last year, all the while knowing we weren't good enough to win the SB with that team.

We've wasted 2 years of JJ and are further away from competing for a SB.

Not only are the cupboards pretty bare for next year, but we're paying a lot of dead cap.

We have maybe 5 guys under team control that other teams would covet and they are all on offense.

I love JJ, but we need to use that asset to kickstart the rebuild. Instead of paying him and Darrisaw big time extensions get some draft capital for them and anyone else that is tradeable. Tear it down to the studs and start by building quality OL and DL. I'm tired of being dominated in the trenches all the time.

Go 1-16 next year with Hall and Mullens as your QB and draft #1 overall in 2025. Get your QB and skill positions go from there, should have a bunch of FA money at that point too to fill in the gaps. You probably draft petty high again in 2026 as the new QB has some growing pains, but 2027 and beyond you should be very competitive if the GM and scouts did their jobs. (Hopefully not Queasy)

Your plan only works if you have competent people on the other side of the teardown that can build something.

Waiting to pounce on a QB in two years is a very flawed pro football strategy. You dont wait to strike until your iron is hot, you make the iron hot by striking. i. e., it may take several attempts to get a QB worthy of leading this franchise. You dont just draft anybody but you dont just draft nobody either. gzuz.

Yesterday you spit on the idea of picking for need but your plan uses the purest form / the zenith of need picking - align all your resources and schedule your QB pick for 2 years down the road. Without knowing who’s available or what our draft position will be.

Your plan may fix the problem but more than likely it just prolongs the groundhog qb day we are going through.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Saw highlights of Penix... wow, what an arm.

Some players are just injury prone. Others like Robert Smith seem to take a while to get the injuries over with (an observation more than a proven thing).

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

And it's no surprise Kwesi's word salad impressed the Wilfs because they no doubt surrounded themselves with con artists and fast talkers in their profitable, yet criminal, real estate enterprise.

Someone like Art Rooney would have said who the f*** is this clown.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Saw highlights of Penix... wow, what an arm.

Some players are just injury prone. Others like Robert Smith seem to take a while to get the injuries over with (an observation more than a proven thing).

2 torn ACLs in his right knee and season ending injuries to both shoulders.

He appears to be recovered from the throwing shoulder - no idea if it'll have any long-term effects.

You have to hope the ACLs are a fluke and not a sign that he's more prone to them.

Can he be that guy that is very mobile in the pocket to make up for not really using him as a running option?

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

And it's no surprise Kwesi's word salad impressed the Wilfs because they no doubt surrounded themselves with con artists and fast talkers in their profitable, yet criminal, real estate enterprise.

Someone like Art Rooney would have said who the f*** is this clown.

Careful, one of Ziggy's sub-contractors may give you a visit with talk like that. [&:]

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Saw highlights of Penix... wow, what an arm.

Some players are just injury prone. Others like Robert Smith seem to take a while to get the injuries over with (an observation more than a proven thing).

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ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Saw highlights of Penix... wow, what an arm.

Some players are just injury prone. Others like Robert Smith seem to take a while to get the injuries over with (an observation more than a proven thing).

he's a kwesi sucker special - just say no to all players with injury histories...that's how a failed draft prospect becomes a second contract slow burn....

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ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

Still lamenting that we beat Carolina early in the season. I just knew if we lost that game everything would fall into place.

KAM probably got the job because he sold the owners on a rebuild on the fly plan. The owners didn't want to hire anyone that said lets gut and rebuild the team which others were calling for.

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

Not sure if true or not, but read somewhere that Kwesi presented a plan to the Wilfs to tear the team down or competitive rebuild, and they wanted the competitive rebuild.

But yeah, not blown away by Kwesi.

2 drafts, Has added a very good WR2 and a young LB (did he get lucky with Pace?). I guess you could say he's added some depth the the secondary, but that's about it
Have added no other impact defensive players. 1 outright bust in Cine, and what appears to be just a bunch of guys at CB. Evans, Booth, Blackmon. Evans has been downright awful. But giving him the benefit of the doubt we have "depth"

I guess his "success" is trading for Hockensen, and signing him. But I think there is also a legitimate argument that now is the time to draft young/cheap TEs. They seem to be all over the league these days. 10 years ago TE was a premium position, but college passing games have really developed the TE.

A questionable contract to Mattison in a time where RBs are devalued. Go young and cheap, questionable contract to a blocking TE in Oliver, Davenport was a joke
Hicks was fine, but nothing spectacular. We really just needed a LBer with some size.
If he let's Hunter go, without compensation, that's an eff up. They could have gotten a couple picks for him 2/3rd round to help with rebuild.

What concerns me most is 2 years in and we have a lot of question on the defense with lots of holes.
Who's our cornerstones of the future? Mettellus and Pace? That's pretty weak.
No 3 rd pick this year. If we go QB at 1, are we drafting any impact defensive players this year?

It'a an alarming situation for sure.

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ORIGINAL: Pauldiercks1

Still lamenting that we beat Carolina early in the season. I just knew if we lost that game everything would fall into place.

KAM probably got the job because he sold the owners on a rebuild on the fly plan. The owners didn't want to hire anyone that said lets gut and rebuild the team which others were calling for.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

Has added a very good WR2 and a young LB (did he get lucky with Pace?)

Pace and Carter were among the top undrafted free agents. By most accounts, THE top two for their position(s) if not all positions. They almost assuredly signed for two reasons: the large signing bonuses and the belief they could make the team because of the joke of a roster at their positions.

There was no talent evaluation skill involved with getting those two. As Howard Cosell once described the Foreman-Lyle fight, "...utterly devoid of boxing skill". That's Kwesi, utterly devoid of GM skill.