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Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (1/8/2024 11:51:05 AM)
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ORIGINAL: fmaltes
Justin Jefferson is a generational player. We won the lottery here. You don't trade him for more lottery tickets. THis is like talking about trading Michael Jorden or Wayne Gretzky at their prime. You just don't do it. If they were stupid enough to trade JJ like we traded Moss, I will quit being a Vikings fan and I have been a fan for 57 years. JJ is like Giannis of the Bucks (I am a bucks fan). As a Bucks fan, I waited 50 years for such a player. The JJ discussion would be like trading Giannis. In terms of what will they actually do, they will sign JJ to a contract that makes him the highest paid WR in the league the same way they made Hoc the highest paid TE. That is the right move. Second, the salary cap is a fantasy number that can always be pushed into the future IF YOU HAVE COOPERATIVE PLAYERS. Essentially, every year you delay a cap hit, you reduce its actual hit by around 8-10% because of the expected annual increases in the salary cap. Kirk Cousins will have a current legacy cap hit of around $28 million. The "net cost" in 2024 if we sign him for $40 million is $12 million. That is not an unreasonable cost for even a bridge QB. Third, a lot of what Flores did was with smoke and mirrors because he had little talent to work with. This is a huge problem that can only be fixed through SEVERAL good drafts, not free agency. A strong offense can hopefully give us some hope and entertainment while we work to upgrade the overall talent of the team especially on defense. The place to get salary cap savings is by getting rid of Harrison Smith, Oniel and Phillips and gamble on developing young drafted players. That is a big gamble. A tougher question is whether we decide that Kwesi and KOC are the right team to lead this long-term rebuild.
Two things I believe are way off.
- JJ is not an in-their-prime Jordan or Gretzky. Not even close. They are in the Mt. Rushmore for their sports, in the running for GOAT. Brady is. Mahomes may one day be. They led their teams to championships. Jefferson is several rungs below that, and even at just WR both Tyreke Hill and Ja'Maar Chase enter in the best WR discussion. As great as Jerry Rice and Moss were, they are not in the NFL GOAT discussion.
Generational player? LT was generational. Jim Brown was generational. Maybe Deion Sanders.
- The actual 2024 "net cost" as you say for signing Cousins to a $40 million contract hinges on what Brzez does. But the dead cap doesn't reduce/discount or apply against the contract. It is an obligation one way or the other.
Accounting wise, Cousins would be associated with $40 million new and $28.5 million dead. They can work on the dead cap portion IF they extend him before his contract expires. And they would still have to deal with the new $40 million. So technically they might be on the hook for a lot less in 2024, but not due to some sort of dead cap discount that you posted about.
Conversely, if his contract expires all the void year dead cap is a lump-sum must pay obligation that is accelerated into 2024. If they then sign him after he becomes a free agent, even if it is only a day after, the team is on the hook for that separate $28.5 million dead cap. Then they'd have to decide how to handle the $40 million.
No matter, with your $40 million example in new money the total cap is still $68.5 million. Overall, I see what may be your logic: push the cap out where it is discounted due to overall cap increases, rely on 'several' good drafts to fix things, and dismiss free agency... because with your plan there won't be adequate cap to work with anyway.
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