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Detroit went into the 2nd half up 17 points and had (I believe) 133 rushing yards in the first half. They chose to run the ball eight times in the second half. Count them - eight attempts. Dan "emotional gamble" Campbell lost them that game.

Here’s the thing with Campbell’s oft discussed aggressive 4th down approach. First, yes I believe he’s absolutely right, in general teams should go for it on 4th down far more often than they do. I’m sure you could find statistical analysis to back that up if you were less lazy than I am. I admire him for being unconventional and not doing things a certain way because that’s always how it’s been done.

BUT, you can’t just look at numbers overall, you have to look at the entire game situation. And each one is different. Campbell erred in this game.

If they successfully attempt the FG on the first situation where they went for it and didn't make it, they go up by 17 points (three scores). This might have been enough to deflate the Niners hopes. Instead the Niners got handed momentum and they ran with it.

EDIT - To put it more clearly - the Lions would have been up 17 with just seven minutes left in the third quarter. That's a damn dagger.

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Detroit went into the 2nd half up 17 points and had (I believe) 133 rushing yards in the first half. They chose to run the ball eight times in the second half. Count them - eight attempts. Dan "emotional gamble" Campbell lost them that game.

Here’s the thing with Campbell’s oft discussed aggressive 4th down approach. First, yes I believe he’s absolutely right, in general teams should go for it on 4th down far more often than they do. I’m sure you could find statistical analysis to back that up if you were less lazy than I am. I admire him for being unconventional and not doing things a certain way because that’s always how it’s been done.

BUT, you can’t just look at numbers overall, you have to look at the entire game situation. And each one is different. Campbell erred in this game.

If they successfully attempt the FG on the first situation where they went for it and didn't make it, they go up by 17 points (three scores). This might have been enough to deflate the Niners hopes. Instead the Niners got handed momentum and they ran with it.

EDIT - To put it more clearly - the Lions would have been up 17 with just seven minutes left in the third quarter. That's a damn dagger.

Exactly. They would have chewed 8+ minutes off the 3rd quarter clock and rebuilt their 17 point, three score lead. I called it dumb at the time, and it seems even worse today.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Lars

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Detroit went into the 2nd half up 17 points and had (I believe) 133 rushing yards in the first half. They chose to run the ball eight times in the second half. Count them - eight attempts. Dan "emotional gamble" Campbell lost them that game.

Here’s the thing with Campbell’s oft discussed aggressive 4th down approach. First, yes I believe he’s absolutely right, in general teams should go for it on 4th down far more often than they do. I’m sure you could find statistical analysis to back that up if you were less lazy than I am. I admire him for being unconventional and not doing things a certain way because that’s always how it’s been done.

BUT, you can’t just look at numbers overall, you have to look at the entire game situation. And each one is different. Campbell erred in this game.

If they successfully attempt the FG on the first situation where they went for it and didn't make it, they go up by 17 points (three scores). This might have been enough to deflate the Niners hopes. Instead the Niners got handed momentum and they ran with it.

EDIT - To put it more clearly - the Lions would have been up 17 with just seven minutes left in the third quarter. That's a damn dagger.

Exactly. They would have chewed 8+ minutes off the 3rd quarter clock and rebuilt their 17 point, three score lead. I called it dumb at the time, and it seems even worse today.

Other call: Tough decision going for it on 4th and not going for the tie. But if they make a 1st, sustain a drive and score, that would of put KC in a tough position. Make the 3, KC chews up a lot of clock and scores, now Det is in a tough position - maybe not as tough as going down 10 ... who knows?

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Lars

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ORIGINAL: David F.

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ORIGINAL: Karl Juhnke

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ORIGINAL: David F.

Detroit went into the 2nd half up 17 points and had (I believe) 133 rushing yards in the first half. They chose to run the ball eight times in the second half. Count them - eight attempts. Dan "emotional gamble" Campbell lost them that game.

Here’s the thing with Campbell’s oft discussed aggressive 4th down approach. First, yes I believe he’s absolutely right, in general teams should go for it on 4th down far more often than they do. I’m sure you could find statistical analysis to back that up if you were less lazy than I am. I admire him for being unconventional and not doing things a certain way because that’s always how it’s been done.

BUT, you can’t just look at numbers overall, you have to look at the entire game situation. And each one is different. Campbell erred in this game.

If they successfully attempt the FG on the first situation where they went for it and didn't make it, they go up by 17 points (three scores). This might have been enough to deflate the Niners hopes. Instead the Niners got handed momentum and they ran with it.

EDIT - To put it more clearly - the Lions would have been up 17 with just seven minutes left in the third quarter. That's a damn dagger.

Exactly. They would have chewed 8+ minutes off the 3rd quarter clock and rebuilt their 17 point, three score lead. I called it dumb at the time, and it seems even worse today.

Other call: Tough decision going for it on 4th and not going for the tie. But if they make a 1st, sustain a drive and score, that would of put KC in a tough position. Make the 3, KC chews up a lot of clock and scores, now Det is in a tough position - maybe not as tough as going down 10 ... who knows?

There was a lot of time left. I doubt they're bleeding 7 minutes from the 30. The other stupid call was running it at the end and having to burn a timeout effectively ending any chance to win.

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According to KFAN, Kirk Cousins wants a 2 year contract for $90 million, full guarantee..

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Please let that be true. Cause there ain’t no way…

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According to KFAN, Kirk Cousins wants a 2 year contract for $90 million, full guarantee..

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Please let that be true. Cause there ain’t no way…

Doesn't surprise me. He's all about money, zero about winning.

Horrible leader that wilts under pressure. Can't wait to see him go!!

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

According to KFAN, Kirk Cousins wants a 2 year contract for $90 million, full guarantee..

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Please let that be true. Cause there ain’t no way…

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

“There’s two great quarterback mysteries in this offseason in the NFL,” NBC Sports’ Peter King said on “The Cook & Joe Show” on January 23. “One is Kirk Cousins. Because he will not go back to Minnesota on a one-year contract."

“A lot of people are going to say, ‘Wow, he’s going to be 36 [years old] next year, coming off a torn Achilles. Do we want to commit to him for two years,’” King said. “I would if I were a team. But we’re also talking two years, $90 million, which is excessive. But it’s also the market. So I’m not saying it’s a bad deal or a bad idea.”

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/nfl_insider_drops_bombshell_report_on_vikings_kirk_cousins/s1_17150_39861792

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I’d hire away their OL coach in a heart beat..

Goff had all day.. to have his receivers miss catches, and running in third and 8 and getting 10 + yards?

All day every day..

But a lateral move wouldn’t happen..

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Reports were last year that he was willing to give us a hometown discount of $37.5 mil/year instead of $40 mil/year, but he wanted all three years guaranteed, and Kwesi was only willing to guarantee two.

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ORIGINAL: Daniel Lee Young

Not a chance.. going rate for mediocre?

GFYS, KFC..
90 million?
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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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Reports were last year that he was willing to give us a hometown discount of $37.5 mil/year instead of $40 mil/year, but he wanted all three years guaranteed, and Kwesi was only willing to guarantee two.

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TJ was supposed to have surgery in his knee today. Rumor is it is delayed due to still too much swelling.

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Not a chance.. going rate for mediocre?

GFYS, KFC..
90 million?
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I'm not saying the amount is a statement of his worth. I'm saying that's the current QB market. Check 2024 QB salaries.