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Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 9:35:21 AM)
@SKORNorth KIRK COUSINS VS. EAGLES: 6-2 RECORD. 297.7 YARDS. 22 TOUCHDOWNS. 9 INTS. 66.15 CMP0/, 98.5 PASSER RATING

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 10:00:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J @SKORNorth KIRK COUSINS VS. EAGLES: 6-2 RECORD. 297.7 YARDS. 22 TOUCHDOWNS. 9 INTS. 66.15 CMP0/, 98.5 PASSER RATING Too bad he's 0-1 against this Eagles team. Seems like we play them 80 % of the time at the Link.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 10:24:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J @SKORNorth KIRK COUSINS VS. EAGLES: 6-2 RECORD. 297.7 YARDS. 22 TOUCHDOWNS. 9 INTS. 66.15 CMP0/, 98.5 PASSER RATING He has 10 starts against Philly. 6-4 Record. He's actually 2-1 against them as a Viking, but the wins were a while ago. 10/7/18: W 23-21 (30/37, 301, 1 TD, 0 INT) 10/13/19: W 38-20 (22/29, 333, 4 TD, 1 INT) 09/19/22: L 7-24 (24/46, 221, 1 TD, 3 INT) https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CousKi00/gamelog/ (It helps a lot if you sort by Opponent)

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 10:27:40 AM)
Actually, we're 0-0 against this Eagles team

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 10:31:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J @SKORNorth KIRK COUSINS VS. EAGLES: 6-2 RECORD. 297.7 YARDS. 22 TOUCHDOWNS. 9 INTS. 66.15 CMP0/, 98.5 PASSER RATING He has 10 starts against Philly. 6-4 Record. He's actually 2-1 against them as a Viking, but the wins were a while ago. 10/7/18: W 23-21 (30/37, 301, 1 TD, 0 INT) 10/13/19: W 38-20 (22/29, 333, 4 TD, 1 INT) 09/19/22: L 7-24 (24/46, 221, 1 TD, 3 INT) https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CousKi00/gamelog/ (It helps a lot if you sort by Opponent) Stupid @SKORNorth ;)

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 10:37:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Actually, we're 0-0 against this Eagles team Well they're pretty much returning the same team as last year. So I guess my point was look at what happened last year. Recent history suggests that his 6-4 record is irrelevant.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 10:53:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Actually, we're 0-0 against this Eagles team Well they're pretty much returning the same team as last year. So I guess my point was look at what happened last year. Recent history suggests that his 6-4 record is irrelevant. Of course it is ... I'm not in jh. but we'll be bringing in a different TE this year -- maybe that'll make a difference ;)

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 12:00:52 PM)
Eagles are also kind of banged up. W/O starting CB, LB, and S tonight. Also Gainwell out.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 12:17:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J Actually, we're 0-0 against this Eagles team Well they're pretty much returning the same team as last year. So I guess my point was look at what happened last year. Recent history suggests that his 6-4 record is irrelevant. Of course it is ... I'm not in jh. but we'll be bringing in a different TE this year -- maybe that'll make a difference ;) That Irv Smith performance last year. Ugh!

David F. -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 12:19:01 PM)
I didn´t pick the Vikings to win in my weighted-pick-pool but I did only assign a weight of 6 out of a possible 16. In my weekly picks I do against my dog I picked the Vikings. Last week we both picked the Vikings. This week the dog picked the Eagles. I think the Vikes can pull off the upset if they just stick with what gives them the best chances and Kirk needs to relax and not be so uptight. Obviously JJ gives us the best chance and I'd go at him as much as possible and be ready to react when Philly shifts coverage to him. We should be looking to throw 75% of the time. For crying out loud can we get Hock down the field? I think the Eagles will be expecting us to go with a lot of short passes, swing passes, and screens to help out our terrible blitz pickups. Somehow we need to exploit that and throw deeper while looking like we're going to throw short. We need Kirk to have some pocket presence. Would like to see some pump fakes and step up past the undisciplined pass rushers - maybe run for five yards every once in a while and slide. Opposing D's don't respect the chance that he'll run. He only needs to do it about three times and that will stop the safeties from sitting back deep.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 12:21:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen My concerns for this season in priority order: - Overall team direction, purpose, etc in the outyears. - The right GM and HC. - Drafts. - Contracts, cap, etc. - Free agency. - Bad injuries, to include repeated concussions. - Outcome of the games. - Pivotal plays in a game. Sounds more like a big picture view. With future indicators. As if the season is gone already. My approach is more pragmatic and still in ‘the now.’ I’m trying to decide on which limb to sacrifice to the ferocious talon of the eagle, so I can scurry away and live for game 3. It is. It has, or more accurately since the offseason have never thought this season's team would be competitive. The best feasible outcome is this coming offseason we finally surface after being underwater since Spielman's last two years. Then the real work begins. Any of us could have cut the expensive deadwood, signed the likes of Phillips and Davenport, and created void years to stash $40 million. I had to give this one some thought. It may be a cold hard truth. And I don't have a sufficient defense because my expectations this season are lower than last year. With the TB game as a small reinforcement for that low expectation. That expectation being based on, not the 13-4 holy hope regular season version, but the team that finished 5-4 with three of those four losses being wallops. And the fourth (playoff) one coming to a disgusting end. All that being said, the season ain't over. Certainly in terms of a SB, without much of a doubt in terms of a top 3-4 NFC ranking, maybe in terms of competing for a wildcard spot ...which isn't a very high standard. It is possible for this team to defy my expectations. I won't adjust my expectations until I see them at least six or seven games in. Blowing by those expectations? Its kinda like the dumb and dumber 'I'd say one out of a million ... so, you're telling me there's a chance!'

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 12:28:42 PM)
Good post Tom. I keep hoping somehow Kirk gets in the me against the world attitude and goes out tonight throwing strikes. He's done it before so let's hope he does it tonight. However if we get mollywhopped tonight I think the reality of this season will maybe start to set in a little. At least show some fight!

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 12:30:11 PM)
The bad news is I'll probably only get to see the second half. I guess that could be ok depending on how the game goes.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 12:48:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer The bad news is I'll probably only get to see the second half. I guess that could be ok depending on how the game goes. If you saw only the second half last year, you might have thought 'a scoreless second half, not bad' even though it was 24-7 at the half.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 1:02:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen My concerns for this season in priority order: - Overall team direction, purpose, etc in the outyears. - The right GM and HC. - Drafts. - Contracts, cap, etc. - Free agency. - Bad injuries, to include repeated concussions. - Outcome of the games. - Pivotal plays in a game. Sounds more like a big picture view. With future indicators. As if the season is gone already. My approach is more pragmatic and still in ‘the now.’ I’m trying to decide on which limb to sacrifice to the ferocious talon of the eagle, so I can scurry away and live for game 3. It is. It has, or more accurately since the offseason have never thought this season's team would be competitive. The best feasible outcome is this coming offseason we finally surface after being underwater since Spielman's last two years. Then the real work begins. Any of us could have cut the expensive deadwood, signed the likes of Phillips and Davenport, and created void years to stash $40 million. I had to give this one some thought. It may be a cold hard truth. And I don't have a sufficient defense because my expectations this season are lower than last year. With the TB game as a small reinforcement for that low expectation. That expectation being based on, not the 13-4 holy hope regular season version, but the team that finished 5-4 with three of those four losses being wallops. And the fourth (playoff) one coming to a disgusting end. All that being said, the season ain't over. Certainly in terms of a SB, without much of a doubt in terms of a top 3-4 NFC ranking, maybe in terms of competing for a wildcard spot ...which isn't a very high standard. It is possible for this team to defy my expectations. I won't adjust my expectations until I see them at least six or seven games in. Blowing by those expectations? Its kinda like the dumb and dumber 'I'd say one out of a million ... so, you're telling me there's a chance!' Hope to be wrong, but for now am focused on the defense. A couple of the CBs and multitudes of humanity at safety have to pan out. Fingers crossed on Pace and Carter. I don't see the needle moving at all on the DL unless Roy comes out of nowhere. Pace Carter Blackmon Murphy Evans Metellus (by default for now) x safety

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 1:03:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer The bad news is I'll probably only get to see the second half. I guess that could be ok depending on how the game goes. If you saw only the second half last year, you might have thought 'a scoreless second half, not bad' even though it was 24-7 at the half. Good memory on that Bill.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 1:06:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer Good post Tom. I keep hoping somehow Kirk gets in the me against the world attitude and goes out tonight throwing strikes. He's done it before so let's hope he does it tonight. However if we get mollywhopped tonight I think the reality of this season will maybe start to set in a little. At least show some fight! Yes, a couple of times a year he just starts winging the ball all over the place. It's like the devil on one shoulder said ~ Come on, forget that Jesus guy. Let's get high and you show 'em who the boss is.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 1:09:39 PM)
funny

Trekgeekscott -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 2:36:01 PM)
https://www.dailynorseman.com/2023/9/12/23868431/signing-dalton-risner-would-be-the-equivalent-of-putting-a-bandaid-over-a-bullet-wound Well. at least it would be trying to stop the bleeding....

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 3:20:34 PM)
The great irony of our injury report is, our starting C is out which is a huge advantage. Plus .... https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1702017547631993049

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 3:41:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes The great irony of our injury report is, our starting C is out which is a huge advantage. Plus .... https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1702017547631993049 That tweet offers a ray of hope. But IMO their OL and DL will be the difference makers. Oh, and their WRs. And the mobility difference between the QBs. Edit - Reference the tweet, Nakobe Dean started just one game last year. And one of their starting safeties was Marcus Epps.

Arlowe84 -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 11:21:03 PM)
I just had a really bad feeling about this year, going into it. I saw a team that really got dominated by good football teams last year a 2022 draft class that looked bad, and I was not enamored with the FA moves. I'm not a cap guy, but Harrison Smith was head scratcher why he was not released. Everyone else that was old and regressed was released. Why not Smith? It''s going to be a fun team to watch from fantasy standpoint, but man, if you believe football is won upfront, this team ain't it. Bradbury and Ingram are both well below average, and we're not real deep. I'm sorry, but our defensive line is a joke. Lowry, Tonga, Bullard, Phillips has to be one of the worst lines in the league. To make it worse we run a lot of 3-4, but have no true NT for a 3-4 The good news is the 2023 draft look better, and we are heading into a good spot from a cap standpoint. I don't believe Kwesi believes thinks this team can win paying $ for a 10-13th ranked QB with no mobility. He's not dumb, he sees the model alot of teams are using to build good rosters. You have to get than young stud on the cheap and build the roster around that. Then you manipulate the cap going forward. But if we don't start investing in the lines, and now more so the defensive line, this team will be death by 1.000 cuts. I felt the team was mediocre last year, and I still see the same type of team this year. They have enough weapons to keep them in games, but they will never control or dominate a game.

Arlowe84 -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/14/2023 11:26:15 PM)
In the last 8 drafts, the team has drafted 2 defensive lineman in the first 4 rounds, and that's a 3rd and 4th rounder That's rough. It no wonder we have the current dline we do. All those wasted CB and LB picks vs building up your dline.

Richard Neussendorfer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/15/2023 12:14:58 AM)
Cine must be worse than even I thought if he couldn't get any snaps tonight.

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/15/2023 7:48:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer Cine must be worse than even I thought if he couldn't get any snaps tonight. He's now 5th or possibly 6th (if Jay Ward is ahead of him) on the S pecking order.

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