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stfrank -> RE: General Vikes Talk (8/31/2024 7:27:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer quote: ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser Practice Squad. i think he's mad about the difference in pay.... LOL. He can be mad all he wants. He has not other options at this point. He could get a real job I suppose. There are plenty of other players that would be happy to collect $225,000 a season to be on the practice squad. Get over it.....

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/1/2024 7:39:23 AM)
Hall has the option to join another teams PS if they're interested.

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/1/2024 11:26:50 AM)
QBs do go down in this league. I wonder how far down the list he is to getting back on a roster?

Jeff Jesser -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/1/2024 11:46:07 AM)
JMO but he was lucky JJM got injured. My guess if he doesn't, Hall gets flat out cut. Frank is right, he should be thankful he's got a chance at such a cushy gig. I get it, he's a competitor and doesn't like it but count your blessings dude. If he chooses somewhere else. Good luck man, wish you the best, but it's a 'meh' move for me. He showed growth but he will never be better than a #3 in the NFL to me.

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/1/2024 4:29:23 PM)
. i think that hall's people will make the correct decision and keep him with o'connell...down the road, he could be jj's #2 for 5+ seasons at $2-4mm/yr.... we'll hear about it by tuesday.... dalvin cook is on the cowboy's practice squad at $383k....

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/2/2024 10:25:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . i think that hall's people will make the correct decision and keep him with o'connell...down the road, he could be jj's #2 for 5+ seasons at $2-4mm/yr.... we'll hear about it by tuesday.... dalvin cook is on the cowboy's practice squad at $383k.... Gzuz. Worst case scenario. Ever. Who cares what Hall’s ‘people’ want? Why do we always have to settle for a non-competitive, non-threatening, coach’s hand-picked lapdog for a backup QB? What is this addiction to flavorless QB pudding? I thought JJ+Darnold was the start of a new non-viking approach, a top heavy QB room with real competition. Mullenses Rypiens Hallses are not getting us anywhere.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/2/2024 10:33:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . i think that hall's people will make the correct decision and keep him with o'connell...down the road, he could be jj's #2 for 5+ seasons at $2-4mm/yr.... we'll hear about it by tuesday.... dalvin cook is on the cowboy's practice squad at $383k.... You're saying Hall will resurface as the #2 QB, with a nice contract nonetheless, with the same coach who literally waived him a few days ago in favor of a journeyman QB for the #3 QB spot? Hall's people will be ecstatic if he can land on a PS anywhere.

TJSweens -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/2/2024 10:51:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . i think that hall's people will make the correct decision and keep him with o'connell...down the road, he could be jj's #2 for 5+ seasons at $2-4mm/yr.... we'll hear about it by tuesday.... dalvin cook is on the cowboy's practice squad at $383k.... Gzuz. Worst case scenario. Ever. Who cares what Hall’s ‘people’ want? Why do we always have to settle for a non-competitive, non-threatening, coach’s hand-picked lapdog for a backup QB? What is this addiction to flavorless QB pudding? I thought JJ+Darnold was the start of a new non-viking approach, a top heavy QB room with real competition. Mullenses Rypiens Hallses are not getting us anywhere. Hall made so much progress from one training camp to the next that he was replaced by a guy with a total of 5 TD and 9 int who has been waiveded by 5 teams. I doubt the Vikings are interested in adding him to the practice squad.

ratoppenheimer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/2/2024 4:08:30 PM)
. hall signed onto seattle's practice squad.... there might have been something going on that we're not privy to.... .

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/2/2024 4:24:59 PM)
Dude probably wanted a fresh start as the coaches and front office were terrified that he could be needed to play.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/2/2024 5:58:34 PM)
A mid round try that’ll never be the guy. We’ll miss him and talk about him as much as we do John David Booty.

kwheats -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/2/2024 6:20:53 PM)
Kevin Seifert @SeifertESPN The good news: Vikings WR Jordan Addison (ankle) was practicing today during the portion open to reporters. The bad news: WR Jalen Nailor (unknown) was working on a side field.

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/3/2024 7:32:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: ratoppenheimer . i think that hall's people will make the correct decision and keep him with o'connell...down the road, he could be jj's #2 for 5+ seasons at $2-4mm/yr.... we'll hear about it by tuesday.... dalvin cook is on the cowboy's practice squad at $383k.... You're saying Hall will resurface as the #2 QB, with a nice contract nonetheless, with the same coach who literally waived him a few days ago in favor of a journeyman QB for the #3 QB spot? Hall's people will be ecstatic if he can land on a PS anywhere. Not sure Hall is good enough to be a back up in the UFL

Ricky J -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/3/2024 9:34:09 AM)
How good does a backup have to be? Not looking to be snarky here ;) Some backups become famous, some youd never know if you didn't follow the game closely. Hall looked good last game, but as i noted before it looked like all his targets were wide open (on the highlights anyway)

BisonFan -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/3/2024 10:10:09 AM)
Excited for the season to begin, but have to admit my expectations are low. It will be great to see how all of the new defensive players do for Flores. Of course the key cog in the season will be the play of Darnold. Really liked him when he was at USC but his success there has not translated in to wins in the NFL. Maybe with the coaching and better players he will do well, but I am not holding my breath. Looking at the schedule I see maybe 7 wins for our team with the possibility of being less than 5. Hate to admit it but when I my low expectations I won't be disappointed on a regular basis. I hope the team proves me wrong. SKOL!

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/3/2024 11:01:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J How good does a backup have to be? Not looking to be snarky here ;) Some backups become famous, some youd never know if you didn't follow the game closely. Hall looked good last game, but as i noted before it looked like all his targets were wide open (on the highlights anyway) I think a good backup QB is important. It seems to prep the defense better and the non starting WR (4-6) seem more prepared also.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/3/2024 12:41:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ricky J How good does a backup have to be? Not looking to be snarky here ;) Some backups become famous, some youd never know if you didn't follow the game closely. Hall looked good last game, but as i noted before it looked like all his targets were wide open (on the highlights anyway) The snarky insinuation that you don't have to be very good ... disqualifies you from our next GM opening. Wait ... on our team ... talent < staying in your backup lane ... so you may still be in play, since not being good as a backup QB is non-disqualifying. In 2022, the first order of backup QB business was to resign Sean Mannion (who had already been signed and resigned) to pair with leftover Mond. In 2023, we drafted Hall to replace Mond and traded for Mullens to replace Mannion (who ended up on our PS). 2024 has us going up to final cutdowns to eject Hall for Rypien. So ... Mannion (signed 2019 / resigned 2021 / resigned 2022 / PS 2023) Mullens (traded for 2022, extended 2023) Mond (leftover) Hall (drafted) Dobbs (traded for) Rypien (signed) ... How good does a backup have to be, you ask? Not very good. And not only not very good, but just as critical, we seem to double and triple down on not very good. And maybe even worse, we ride our bad backup QBs all offseason and don't change them out until we are deep into the process – long after the new bad backups have any chance of integrating into our system and performing all the way up to their low ceiling.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/3/2024 12:45:52 PM)
Well it’s been quite the off season but here we are at the beginning of a new regular season. We can and will imagine all sorts of outcomes but what it will be will unfold as it does. My hopes are for a hot start that we build off of. I want Darnold and Jets to just kill it. I want wins that aren’t particularly close. Feeling positive. Feeling grateful.

Bill Jandro -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/3/2024 2:50:56 PM)
I'm way more worried about the offense than the defense this year. Which is kind of an indictment on O'Connell. Last season the offense looked lethargic coming out of the gate and ball security was a major problem. This team is not good enough to win if they're constantly laying the football on the carpet. O'Connell has to call a more balanced offense and not abandon the run. He also needs to design a screen pass that actually gains yardage.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/3/2024 3:28:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro I'm way more worried about the offense than the defense this year. Which is kind of an indictment on O'Connell. Last season the offense looked lethargic coming out of the gate and ball security was a major problem. This team is not good enough to win if they're constantly laying the football on the carpet. O'Connell has to call a more balanced offense and not abandon the run. He also needs to design a screen pass that actually gains yardage. Early last year the D did the team no favors: Game 1: Baker Mayfield laughing on the sidelines enroute to a resurrection. Game 2: Philly all but literally smashmouthing the ball down hapless D's throats on the way to 259 yards rushing. Game 3: The pass D says hold my mic while allowing San Diego 445 yards passing. Game 4: Rejoice, as we mauled Carolina 21-13.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/3/2024 3:38:09 PM)
Not worried about any facet of the team. By Christmas the expectation is to have visions of sugarplums in the way of a high pick culminating in taking a shutdown corner. Maybe that DB (but I think he was a safety) who one-handed the ball with sort of a 360 (at least 270) near horizontal twirl. Or go 3-Deep II by taking that USC WR who kind of replicated JJ's incredible catch vs Buffalo. Starting to wonder if the NFL isn't on the verge of a new age of uber athletic WRs. If so, you best get the best CBs.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/3/2024 3:57:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Not worried about any facet of the team. By Christmas the expectation is to have visions of sugarplums in the way of a high pick culminating in taking a shutdown corner. Maybe that DB (but I think he was a safety) who one-handed the ball with sort of a 360 (at least 270) near horizontal twirl. Or go 3-Deep II by taking that USC WR who kind of replicated JJ's incredible catch vs Buffalo. Starting to wonder if the NFL isn't on the verge of a new age of uber athletic WRs. If so, you best get the best CBs. CB vs WR might be influenced by the timing of Addison’s next escapade. Although I’m sure a big fat ‘How am I driving / call …’ bumper sticker (the only rolls royce to have one) may help.

Todd M -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/3/2024 5:03:12 PM)
I’ve got one on my Ro Ro. That’s what people that own a Rolls Royce call them. The # to call is 1 800 Eat Shit.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/3/2024 5:16:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Not worried about any facet of the team. By Christmas the expectation is to have visions of sugarplums in the way of a high pick culminating in taking a shutdown corner. Maybe that DB (but I think he was a safety) who one-handed the ball with sort of a 360 (at least 270) near horizontal twirl. Or go 3-Deep II by taking that USC WR who kind of replicated JJ's incredible catch vs Buffalo. Starting to wonder if the NFL isn't on the verge of a new age of uber athletic WRs. If so, you best get the best CBs. CB vs WR might be influenced by the timing of Addison’s next escapade. Although I’m sure a big fat ‘How am I driving / call …’ bumper sticker (the only rolls royce to have one) may help. WR was a throw in, but yes who knows what Addison will conjure up. Figure 100% they go CB or DT, depending on how the CBs on the roster fare and whether one that ends up crazy good can be resigned. But eh, let the pesky season play out [8\|]

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (9/3/2024 6:05:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen Not worried about any facet of the team. By Christmas the expectation is to have visions of sugarplums in the way of a high pick culminating in taking a shutdown corner. Maybe that DB (but I think he was a safety) who one-handed the ball with sort of a 360 (at least 270) near horizontal twirl. Or go 3-Deep II by taking that USC WR who kind of replicated JJ's incredible catch vs Buffalo. Starting to wonder if the NFL isn't on the verge of a new age of uber athletic WRs. If so, you best get the best CBs. CB vs WR might be influenced by the timing of Addison’s next escapade. Although I’m sure a big fat ‘How am I driving / call …’ bumper sticker (the only rolls royce to have one) may help. WR was a throw in, but yes who knows what Addison will conjure up. Figure 100% they go CB or DT, depending on how the CBs on the roster fare and whether one that ends up crazy good can be resigned. But eh, let the pesky season play out [8\|] True, there is some time to sort it out. Between our next second and third preseason games apparently.

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