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ORIGINAL: marty

Bill, thanks for reposting my many thoughts, you have reinforced to me that I was right about nearly everything with regards to the current discussion.

It's unfair to single you out as the only bully Bill, it's really group bullying. But as I stated earlier, I agree with most of your opinions in the political threads, so I appreciate the group bullying the right wingers. Many other political groups, it is the right wingers that tend to do most of the bullying and name-calling, so it's refreshing with this board that the opposite tends to occur.

I don't expect you to change, I was only pointing out your behavior, and why the group bullying (I incorrectly stated it was just you) has driven some people from this board. Thankfully Brad is still around, despite all the personal attacks he has endured.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: marty

Bill, thanks for reposting my many thoughts, you have reinforced to me that I was right about nearly everything with regards to the current discussion.

It's unfair to single you out as the only bully Bill, it's really group bullying. But as I stated earlier, I agree with most of your opinions in the political threads, so I appreciate the group bullying the right wingers. Many other political groups, it is the right wingers that tend to do most of the bullying and name-calling, so it's refreshing with this board that the opposite tends to occur.

I don't expect you to change, I was only pointing out your behavior, and why the group bullying (I incorrectly stated it was just you) has driven some people from this board. Thankfully Brad is still around, despite all the personal attacks he has endured.

As much as you hoped I'd be goaded into refuting your all-encompassing 'I was right' decree, that won't be happening.

If you think there is group bullying, so be it. If I posted ideas and every reply refuted my idea as well as offered other criticism worth thinking about, I'd as a minimum rethink my ideas. But you do what you need to do.

I am requesting you stop (as in NO more words about it) tying me in with your political views and statements; you've done it twice already. Just consider it a closed issue and don't bring it up in any shape or form.

And you dangle Brad's name around like a loose thread hoping it will be picked at. Do what you must, but I'm having none of that.

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: marty

Bill, thanks for reposting my many thoughts, you have reinforced to me that I was right about nearly everything with regards to the current discussion.

It's unfair to single you out as the only bully Bill, it's really group bullying. But as I stated earlier, I agree with most of your opinions in the political threads, so I appreciate the group bullying the right wingers. Many other political groups, it is the right wingers that tend to do most of the bullying and name-calling, so it's refreshing with this board that the opposite tends to occur.

I don't expect you to change, I was only pointing out your behavior, and why the group bullying (I incorrectly stated it was just you) has driven some people from this board. Thankfully Brad is still around, despite all the personal attacks he has endured.

As much as you hoped I'd be goaded into refuting your all-encompassing 'I was right' decree, that won't be happening.

If you think there is group bullying, so be it. If I posted ideas and every reply refuted my idea as well as offered other criticism worth thinking about, I'd as a minimum rethink my ideas. But you do what you need to do.

I am requesting you stop (as in NO more words about it) tying me in with your political views and statements; you've done it twice already. Just consider it a closed issue and don't bring it up in any shape or form.

And you dangle Brad's name around like a loose thread hoping it will be picked at. Do what you must, but I'm having none of that.

Yeah Marty. Don't be a political sycophant.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: marty

Bill, thanks for reposting my many thoughts, you have reinforced to me that I was right about nearly everything with regards to the current discussion.

It's unfair to single you out as the only bully Bill, it's really group bullying. But as I stated earlier, I agree with most of your opinions in the political threads, so I appreciate the group bullying the right wingers. Many other political groups, it is the right wingers that tend to do most of the bullying and name-calling, so it's refreshing with this board that the opposite tends to occur.

I don't expect you to change, I was only pointing out your behavior, and why the group bullying (I incorrectly stated it was just you) has driven some people from this board. Thankfully Brad is still around, despite all the personal attacks he has endured.

As much as you hoped I'd be goaded into refuting your all-encompassing 'I was right' decree, that won't be happening.

If you think there is group bullying, so be it. If I posted ideas and every reply refuted my idea as well as offered other criticism worth thinking about, I'd as a minimum rethink my ideas. But you do what you need to do.

I am requesting you stop (as in NO more words about it) tying me in with your political views and statements; you've done it twice already. Just consider it a closed issue and don't bring it up in any shape or form.

And you dangle Brad's name around like a loose thread hoping it will be picked at. Do what you must, but I'm having none of that.

Yeah Marty. Don't be a political sycophant.

Damn, why didn't I think of that! Saying you bloomed was the understatement of the year!

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

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ORIGINAL: marty

Bill, thanks for reposting my many thoughts, you have reinforced to me that I was right about nearly everything with regards to the current discussion.

It's unfair to single you out as the only bully Bill, it's really group bullying. But as I stated earlier, I agree with most of your opinions in the political threads, so I appreciate the group bullying the right wingers. Many other political groups, it is the right wingers that tend to do most of the bullying and name-calling, so it's refreshing with this board that the opposite tends to occur.

I don't expect you to change, I was only pointing out your behavior, and why the group bullying (I incorrectly stated it was just you) has driven some people from this board. Thankfully Brad is still around, despite all the personal attacks he has endured.

As much as you hoped I'd be goaded into refuting your all-encompassing 'I was right' decree, that won't be happening.

If you think there is group bullying, so be it. If I posted ideas and every reply refuted my idea as well as offered other criticism worth thinking about, I'd as a minimum rethink my ideas. But you do what you need to do.

I am requesting you stop (as in NO more words about it) tying me in with your political views and statements; you've done it twice already. Just consider it a closed issue and don't bring it up in any shape or form.

And you dangle Brad's name around like a loose thread hoping it will be picked at. Do what you must, but I'm having none of that.

Yeah Marty. Don't be a political sycophant.

Damn, why didn't I think of that! Saying you bloomed was the understatement of the year!

That's right, my pollen starts early and travels far.

So sad to have moved on from your tight little political coalition. LOL.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Request denied Bill.

I see sharing similar views politically as a positive, I see it as actually seeing some positives in my very negative view of you. Maybe you're not so bad.

You're not any sort of authority over me in any way, shape or form.

You send me private messages, and say you will not read my response to them. What kind of person are you ? I hope you're not in a an adult relationship where your partner is not allowed to respond or have any voice.

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ORIGINAL: marty

You have some redeeming qualities Bill, I am searching for more positives about you.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

False starts were a big part of the game. Not expecting the lack of discipline to improve, but at the same time need to see JJM improve.

We should be 1st in number of penalties against after this week.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

False starts were a big part of the game. Not expecting the lack of discipline to improve, but at the same time need to see JJM improve.

We should be 1st in number of penalties against after this week.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/

Doesn't seem like his coach is helping him.

Having him drop back like he's Matthew Stafford is wild.

Also wild they thought they could win with basically a rookie who's big knock was lack of reps/experience throwing.
And sure enough, having all sort accuracy issues
Only 3 QBs with a worse completion %

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

False starts were a big part of the game. Not expecting the lack of discipline to improve, but at the same time need to see JJM improve.

We should be 1st in number of penalties against after this week.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/

Doesn't seem like his coach is helping him.

Having him drop back like he's Matthew Stafford is wild.

Also wild they thought they could win with basically a rookie who's big knock was lack of reps/experience throwing.
And sure enough, having all sort accuracy issues
Only 3 QBs with a worse completion %

He definitely lacks experience. I'm ok with these mistakes as long as there's upwards progression. He's gotta stay healthy as well. With his style of play that may be tough.

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

False starts were a big part of the game. Not expecting the lack of discipline to improve, but at the same time need to see JJM improve.

We should be 1st in number of penalties against after this week.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/

Doesn't seem like his coach is helping him.

Having him drop back like he's Matthew Stafford is wild.

Also wild they thought they could win with basically a rookie who's big knock was lack of reps/experience throwing.
And sure enough, having all sort accuracy issues
Only 3 QBs with a worse completion %

He definitely lacks experience. I'm ok with these mistakes as long as there's upwards progression. He's gotta stay healthy as well. With his style of play that may be tough.

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

False starts were a big part of the game. Not expecting the lack of discipline to improve, but at the same time need to see JJM improve.

We should be 1st in number of penalties against after this week.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/

Doesn't seem like his coach is helping him.

Having him drop back like he's Matthew Stafford is wild.

Also wild they thought they could win with basically a rookie who's big knock was lack of reps/experience throwing.
And sure enough, having all sort accuracy issues
Only 3 QBs with a worse completion %

He definitely lacks experience. I'm ok with these mistakes as long as there's upwards progression. He's gotta stay healthy as well. With his style of play that may be tough.

I don't have issues with INTs by a young QB. My biggest issue is his sailing of footballs. One thing I remember I read an evaluator say, is he lacks consistent touch and tries to "rip" everything.

And what's up with throwing it into the arms of d lineman?

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

False starts were a big part of the game. Not expecting the lack of discipline to improve, but at the same time need to see JJM improve.

We should be 1st in number of penalties against after this week.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/

Doesn't seem like his coach is helping him.

Having him drop back like he's Matthew Stafford is wild.

Also wild they thought they could win with basically a rookie who's big knock was lack of reps/experience throwing.
And sure enough, having all sort accuracy issues
Only 3 QBs with a worse completion %

He definitely lacks experience. I'm ok with these mistakes as long as there's upwards progression. He's gotta stay healthy as well. With his style of play that may be tough.

I don't have issues with INTs by a young QB. My biggest issue is his sailing of footballs. One thing I remember I read an evaluator say, is he lacks consistent touch and tries to "rip" everything.

And what's up with throwing it into the arms of d lineman?

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

False starts were a big part of the game. Not expecting the lack of discipline to improve, but at the same time need to see JJM improve.

We should be 1st in number of penalties against after this week.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/

Doesn't seem like his coach is helping him.

Having him drop back like he's Matthew Stafford is wild.

Also wild they thought they could win with basically a rookie who's big knock was lack of reps/experience throwing.
And sure enough, having all sort accuracy issues
Only 3 QBs with a worse completion %

He definitely lacks experience. I'm ok with these mistakes as long as there's upwards progression. He's gotta stay healthy as well. With his style of play that may be tough.

I don't have issues with INTs by a young QB. My biggest issue is his sailing of footballs. One thing I remember I read an evaluator say, is he lacks consistent touch and tries to "rip" everything.

And what's up with throwing it into the arms of d lineman?

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

False starts were a big part of the game. Not expecting the lack of discipline to improve, but at the same time need to see JJM improve.

We should be 1st in number of penalties against after this week.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/

Doesn't seem like his coach is helping him.

Having him drop back like he's Matthew Stafford is wild.

Also wild they thought they could win with basically a rookie who's big knock was lack of reps/experience throwing.
And sure enough, having all sort accuracy issues
Only 3 QBs with a worse completion %

He definitely lacks experience. I'm ok with these mistakes as long as there's upwards progression. He's gotta stay healthy as well. With his style of play that may be tough.

I don't have issues with INTs by a young QB. My biggest issue is his sailing of footballs. One thing I remember I read an evaluator say, is he lacks consistent touch and tries to "rip" everything.

And what's up with throwing it into the arms of d lineman?

2nd INT I put on Jefferson. One on one coverage, you throw it up and you hope a 30M+ WR comes down with ball. Teams are getting physical with JJ and it is working.

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

False starts were a big part of the game. Not expecting the lack of discipline to improve, but at the same time need to see JJM improve.

We should be 1st in number of penalties against after this week.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/

Doesn't seem like his coach is helping him.

Having him drop back like he's Matthew Stafford is wild.

Also wild they thought they could win with basically a rookie who's big knock was lack of reps/experience throwing.
And sure enough, having all sort accuracy issues
Only 3 QBs with a worse completion %

He definitely lacks experience. I'm ok with these mistakes as long as there's upwards progression. He's gotta stay healthy as well. With his style of play that may be tough.

I don't have issues with INTs by a young QB. My biggest issue is his sailing of footballs. One thing I remember I read an evaluator say, is he lacks consistent touch and tries to "rip" everything.

And what's up with throwing it into the arms of d lineman?

2nd INT I put on Jefferson. One on one coverage, you throw it up and you hope a 30M+ WR comes down with ball. Teams are getting physical with JJ and it is working.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

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ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer

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ORIGINAL: Arlowe84

quote:

ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

False starts were a big part of the game. Not expecting the lack of discipline to improve, but at the same time need to see JJM improve.

We should be 1st in number of penalties against after this week.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/

Doesn't seem like his coach is helping him.

Having him drop back like he's Matthew Stafford is wild.

Also wild they thought they could win with basically a rookie who's big knock was lack of reps/experience throwing.
And sure enough, having all sort accuracy issues
Only 3 QBs with a worse completion %

He definitely lacks experience. I'm ok with these mistakes as long as there's upwards progression. He's gotta stay healthy as well. With his style of play that may be tough.

I don't have issues with INTs by a young QB. My biggest issue is his sailing of footballs. One thing I remember I read an evaluator say, is he lacks consistent touch and tries to "rip" everything.

And what's up with throwing it into the arms of d lineman?

2nd INT I put on Jefferson. One on one coverage, you throw it up and you hope a 30M+ WR comes down with ball. Teams are getting physical with JJ and it is working.

Agreed. I've watched that play 3-4 times. He doesn't trip he just flat out falls down. Then stands there vs going and tackling the guy.

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ORIGINAL: marty

Keep the 'private' messages coming Bill, you're giving me lots of laughs [&:]
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