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BTW dumbshit Phil... how does 11 weeks ago translate to your "a few weeks ago" claim?


Your idiocy on the political threads translates directly to here. Because you think your take on the MLB, like everything else, is an expert take.

I fully admit being a novice with MLB, but cheap ass owners are cheap ass owners. Surprised Red McCombs didn't find his comfort zone in baseball, it would have been nirvana for him!

The cheap ass owners also get annual pure profit NINE FIGURE levels of revenue sharing income in return for literally doing nothing, other benefits like luxury tax distributions, and they PROFIT IMMENSELY on ever increasing franchise values.

But you go on pretending you have a bond with them. Your actual bond is opening your mouth so they can shit or ejaculate down your throat. You lap it up because nothing replaces your vicarious siding with say 15-30 people who hoodwink their fan bases. ENJOY!

So you forgot you said it and now point the fact as to a few weeks to 11 weeks. Does that make me a liar?
Really great reason to be a bigger bully than normal....I guess.
[&o]

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BTW dumbshit Phil... how does 11 weeks ago translate to your "a few weeks ago" claim?


Your idiocy on the political threads translates directly to here. Because you think your take on the MLB, like everything else, is an expert take.

I fully admit being a novice with MLB, but cheap ass owners are cheap ass owners. Surprised Red McCombs didn't find his comfort zone in baseball, it would have been nirvana for him!

The cheap ass owners also get annual pure profit NINE FIGURE levels of revenue sharing income in return for literally doing nothing, other benefits like luxury tax distributions, and they PROFIT IMMENSELY on ever increasing franchise values.

But you go on pretending you have a bond with them. Your actual bond is opening your mouth so they can shit or ejaculate down your throat. You lap it up because nothing replaces your vicarious siding with say 15-30 people who hoodwink their fan bases. ENJOY!

So you forgot you said it and now point the fact as to a few weeks to 11 weeks. Does that make me a liar?
Really great reason to be a bigger bully than normal....I guess.
[&o]

I didn't forget a thing so that's BS. Meanwhile, when I challenged you, you coughed up one GENERIC post of mine regarding your Brewers accusation. The very same post I Bumped to the present.

And you repeatedly put words in my mouth.

Thanks for admitting you had no clue how long ago it was, despite your snarky accusation of "a few weeks". But that's just a typical side note WRT you.

Time to research workforce behavior. You know, like those do-nothing federal workers you so brazenly ragged on.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

BTW dumbshit Phil... how does 11 weeks ago translate to your "a few weeks ago" claim?


Your idiocy on the political threads translates directly to here. Because you think your take on the MLB, like everything else, is an expert take.

I fully admit being a novice with MLB, but cheap ass owners are cheap ass owners. Surprised Red McCombs didn't find his comfort zone in baseball, it would have been nirvana for him!

The cheap ass owners also get annual pure profit NINE FIGURE levels of revenue sharing income in return for literally doing nothing, other benefits like luxury tax distributions, and they PROFIT IMMENSELY on ever increasing franchise values.

But you go on pretending you have a bond with them. Your actual bond is opening your mouth so they can shit or ejaculate down your throat. You lap it up because nothing replaces your vicarious siding with say 15-30 people who hoodwink their fan bases. ENJOY!

So you forgot you said it and now point the fact as to a few weeks to 11 weeks. Does that make me a liar?
Really great reason to be a bigger bully than normal....I guess.
[&o]

I didn't forget a thing so that's BS. Meanwhile, when I challenged you, you coughed up one GENERIC post of mine regarding your Brewers accusation. The very same post I Bumped to the present.

And you repeatedly put words in my mouth.

Thanks for admitting you had no clue how long ago it was, despite your snarky accusation of "a few weeks". But that's just a typical side note WRT you.

Time to research workforce behavior. You know, like those do-nothing federal workers you so brazenly ragged on.

So the Dodgers having 10 to 1 revenue affects federal workers?

If you want to keep it the same way it is fine but you probably need to get you memory checked. Also please change your diaper.

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ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer

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ORIGINAL: Bill Johanesen

BTW dumbshit Phil... how does 11 weeks ago translate to your "a few weeks ago" claim?


Your idiocy on the political threads translates directly to here. Because you think your take on the MLB, like everything else, is an expert take.

I fully admit being a novice with MLB, but cheap ass owners are cheap ass owners. Surprised Red McCombs didn't find his comfort zone in baseball, it would have been nirvana for him!

The cheap ass owners also get annual pure profit NINE FIGURE levels of revenue sharing income in return for literally doing nothing, other benefits like luxury tax distributions, and they PROFIT IMMENSELY on ever increasing franchise values.

But you go on pretending you have a bond with them. Your actual bond is opening your mouth so they can shit or ejaculate down your throat. You lap it up because nothing replaces your vicarious siding with say 15-30 people who hoodwink their fan bases. ENJOY!

So you forgot you said it and now point the fact as to a few weeks to 11 weeks. Does that make me a liar?
Really great reason to be a bigger bully than normal....I guess.
[&o]

I didn't forget a thing so that's BS. Meanwhile, when I challenged you, you coughed up one GENERIC post of mine regarding your Brewers accusation. The very same post I Bumped to the present.

And you repeatedly put words in my mouth.

Thanks for admitting you had no clue how long ago it was, despite your snarky accusation of "a few weeks". But that's just a typical side note WRT you.

Time to research workforce behavior. You know, like those do-nothing federal workers you so brazenly ragged on.

So the Dodgers having 10 to 1 revenue affects federal workers?

If you want to keep it the same way it is fine but you probably need to get you memory checked. Also please change your diaper.

Getting a post in today BEFORE work eh? Interesting.

And since you don't realize a post can contain two distinct elements, it can. Or more likely, since you don't ever comprehend what you read, you ran the post through the PhilFilter and concluded the elements were tied together! m[&:]

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I didn't. You made that up. It's easy to tell you did because it doesn't even make sense and naturally it is devoid of proper grammar.

You know full well there are two elements to that post. Or maybe you are too stupid to understand.

Any more accusations about me complaining the Brewers made 15-20 million (was that before or after revenue sharing and franchise value increases) or did I fully squash that?

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I didn't. You made that up. It's easy to tell you did because it doesn't even make sense and naturally it is devoid of proper grammar.

You know full well there are two elements to that post. Or maybe you are too stupid to understand.

Any more accusations about me complaining the Brewers made 15-20 million (was that before or after revenue sharing and franchise value increases) or did I fully squash that?

Squash your opinion that you want to not have a salary cap? No idea. You seem to forgot where you stand.

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Last 10 world series teams and their greater metropolitan areas.

2025 Los Angeles - 12.9 million vs Toronto 7.1 million
2024 Los Angeles vs Yankees 23.5 million
2023 Texas (Dallas/Ft Worth) 8.4M vs Arizona (Phoenix) 5.19M
2022 Houston 7.9M vs Philadelphia 6.33M
2021 Houston vs Atlanta 6.48M
2020 Los Angeles vs Tampa 3.42 M
2019 Houston vs Washington 6.46M
2018 LA vs Boston 8.4 million
2017 Houston vs LA
2016 Chicago 9.6M vs Cleveland 2.16M

Totals

LA second largest in America 5 times
Houston fifth largest 4 times
Other major markets at one each... New York, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Toronto, Dallas/FW, Phoenix, Washington DC

That means that out of 20 World series slots in the last 10 years, 18 were taken by major market teams...but yeah there is total parity in MLB.

Yeah, that was my premise all along [&o]

And in those last 10 years, the cheap owners get away with pure grift.

Again, why we need a salary floor.

NFL has a hard cap and you essentially need to spend 90% of that cap (its weird, because it takes 4 year groupings into account).

NBA has a softer top end of the cap (which is why all the apron penalties have been added), but all teams need to spend 90% of the cap every year. And if an owner cheaps out and spends less, the financial difference (the shortfall) is paid directly to the players currently on that team's roster.

So if MLB ever enacts a salary cap, they absolutely need a floor as well.

I'm totally down with a floor that is 90% of the cap.

Spitballing, but if there is a cap there will be a quote/unquote cap floor that is mere window dressing. Some BS minimum to keep the Pirates and A's owners from going suicidal. Maybe a couple of other owners.

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Any more BS Phil?

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Any more BS Phil?

So you admit you changed your mind multiple times....hmm.

& I am the dimwit because you changed your mind after arguing/discussing with DL?

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BTW Phil, changing ones mind when presented new information is not the bad thing or stupid thing you make it out to be. People the world over do it daily. It's a wise thing to do. You should try it sometime rather than stubbornly double and triple down on your initial takes you hold so dear.

Unfortunately, that's not in your wheelhouse. So continue on, and let's see if you can get ONE accusation right as you obsessively keep sending out ill-conceived strawmen that I mow down with ease. You want to be a glutton for punishment, I'll play along.

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BTW Phil, changing ones mind when presented new information is not the bad thing or stupid thing you make it out to be. People the world over do it daily. It's a wise thing to do. You should try it sometime rather than stubbornly double and triple down on your initial takes you hold so dear.

Unfortunately, that's not in your wheelhouse. So continue on, and let's see if you can get ONE accusation right as you obsessively keep sending out ill-conceived strawmen that I mow down with ease. You want to be a glutton for punishment, I'll play along.

After 4-5 pages (Specifically pages 25-30 in this thread) of mentioning Skubal, deferred $$$, comparing it to the NBA, and not wanting a salary cap or cap floor.
Yeah everyone can look back thru and see the truth. All good.

Side Note: Brewers are 2-0 in the World Series and you say you were right all along about it all include your Skubal rant? [&:]

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https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/dodgers-villains-tarik-skubal-trade-brewers-tigers/

This guy nailed it. I wanted LA to get Skubal mostly because it meant another contender would not have him. That said, sports is a game of inches, luck, etc. so having 10 Skubals doesn't guarantee a single thing.

We could shame an awful lot of teams here (Rays, Cubs, Braves, White Sox, etc.), but let's zero in on those Brewers. Sitting idly as Skubal lands with the back-to-back reigning World Series champs is indefensible from where I sit.

If there was ever a moment absolutely screaming for the Brewers to do absolutely whatever it took to not only acquire Skubal but to make sure the Dodgers didn't, this was it.

The prospect package the Dodgers gave up was light and easily something the Brewers could have handled.

Don't bring up money, either. Skubal is due roughly $10 million and change the rest of the season. The Brewers are gonna draw over 2.5 million fans again this season, not to mention all the potential playoff gates.

At some point, you put the "future" in the backseat and drop the hammer to try and win a World Series right now. This was the time.

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Imagine the Vikings have the best record in football in December but could use a talent influx at a high impact position. At the trade deadline, arguably the best player at that position hits the market. Maybe a shutdown CB, a QB, whatever. They can obtain said player without trading a single starter or day one pick. The package probably requires a 2nd rounder, an oft-injured backup who looked great a couple of years ago in the two games he played, and a PS throw in. Even though he is likely a rental, obtaining this player gives them the best chance in the history of the franchise to secure a ring,

At least one person's response is we're x games above .500 so things are just fine.

Sounds just like 14-3.

The Brewers and TB don't have the $$$ even the Twins should have.........

It would be great for both fan bases as they are in the playoffs almost every year.....

So they can't pay Skubal's pro-rated salary for the rest of the season?

Taketh $500 million from the public but giveth nothing when it counts.

Time for Russian oligarchs to start owning some of these teams.

Both made moves this year.......rumor is there isn't a way next year starts on time.

BTW Phil, how do you know the Brewers (and TB) didn't have ~ $10M for the remainder of Skubal's salary? Do you have their financials?

You answered with deflections. Now granted, any moves they made might be what brings them a championship but the topic was acquiring a reigning Cy Young winner.

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It's just amazing how in baseball any team can win in the postseason at any time. Or how things turn on a dime. Yankees blowing up in the 5th inning in Game 5. Blue Jays just inches from winning last October, a couple of times. Yamamoto coming in on zero days rest with the WS on the line because they had nobody else. Rojas and Pages (cheap players) making plays of their lives.

And you have people like the smallish-market Padres GM who is not one of the ballless wonders. He created an expensive roster, but has gone through like 3 ownership challenges, and has no prospects to speak of but puts more chips in and adds two good starters at the deadline to go along with King and a lights-out bullpen.



But baseball is ruined cry the Phils. We must have a cap he bellows forth. So how come the Mets didn't compete? After all, THEY were first in player spending. How come the rich Yankees are not even leading their division and some two-bit team is?

Fact is, baseball is doing great. And the owners know it. Revenue sharing has never been better! Not satisfied, they believe it's the opportune time to put a limit on spending money on those pesky players. Have a work stoppage until they see the money stops flowing into their wallets. But it better be a long stoppage because, again, LAs aged team could really use it.

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A two-pitch inning. Crazy.

So on the left coast, Ohtani is on IL and Snell is down. It was going to be tough before, now IDK (if they get that far). Mil is mowing teams down like bowling pins and LA hasn't looked good for months.

On the Skubal trade, seems Mil went in for Skubal but the positions LA offered were better aligned to what Det wanted.

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Last 10 world series teams and their greater metropolitan areas.

2025 Los Angeles - 12.9 million vs Toronto 7.1 million
2024 Los Angeles vs Yankees 23.5 million
2023 Texas (Dallas/Ft Worth) 8.4M vs Arizona (Phoenix) 5.19M
2022 Houston 7.9M vs Philadelphia 6.33M
2021 Houston vs Atlanta 6.48M
2020 Los Angeles vs Tampa 3.42 M
2019 Houston vs Washington 6.46M
2018 LA vs Boston 8.4 million
2017 Houston vs LA
2016 Chicago 9.6M vs Cleveland 2.16M

Totals

LA second largest in America 5 times
Houston fifth largest 4 times
Other major markets at one each... New York, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Toronto, Dallas/FW, Phoenix, Washington DC

That means that out of 20 World series slots in the last 10 years, 18 were taken by major market teams...but yeah there is total parity in MLB.

Yeah, that was my premise all along [&o]

And in those last 10 years, the cheap owners get away with pure grift.

Again, why we need a salary floor.

NFL has a hard cap and you essentially need to spend 90% of that cap (its weird, because it takes 4 year groupings into account).

NBA has a softer top end of the cap (which is why all the apron penalties have been added), but all teams need to spend 90% of the cap every year. And if an owner cheaps out and spends less, the financial difference (the shortfall) is paid directly to the players currently on that team's roster.

So if MLB ever enacts a salary cap, they absolutely need a floor as well.

I'm totally down with a floor that is 90% of the cap.

Spitballing, but if there is a cap there will be a quote/unquote cap floor that is mere window dressing. Some BS minimum to keep the Pirates and A's owners from going suicidal. Maybe a couple of other owners.

Bump from Aug 7 because Phil can't remember things so he resorts to assigning his incorrect thoughts to me.

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A two-pitch inning. Crazy.

So on the left coast, Ohtani is on IL and Snell is down. It was going to be tough before, now IDK (if they get that far). Mil is mowing teams down like bowling pins and LA hasn't looked good for months.

On the Skubal trade, seems Mil went in for Skubal but the positions LA offered were better aligned to what Det wanted.

Bump, for Phil from mid-Sept.

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A two-pitch inning. Crazy.

So on the left coast, Ohtani is on IL and Snell is down. It was going to be tough before, now IDK (if they get that far). Mil is mowing teams down like bowling pins and LA hasn't looked good for months.

On the Skubal trade, seems Mil went in for Skubal but the positions LA offered were better aligned to what Det wanted.

Bump, for Phil from mid-Sept.

Did you forget your mulit-page rant that included you mentioning Brewers spending deferred $$$ and why didn't the Brewers do that for Skubal? Apparently you did forget. IMO if you defer money it isn't a rental. My point was/is that the Brewers never defer $$$---you know like when they traded for CC.

Example....The Mets paying Bobby Bonilla for 30 years be considered a rental?

If posters care to re read it they will Bill....[&:]
Maybe you should re read it.

Also----the Brewers lead 2-0 in the World Series. So you were wrong so far (about them needing Skubal).

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Phil is obsessing with his accusations:

- I've complained the Brewers only made 15-20 million (wrong)
- That I don't want a salary cap or cap floor (wrong)
- That I changed my mind multiple times (wrong)
- That I said I was right all along WRT the Brewers/Skubal (wrong)

I literally show him evidence with wholesale posts.

Any more BS Phil? What's your next lie? Keep trying, you little rat.

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Have any of the tightwads even tried to sign a top free agent using deferred money? Or is knowing they'll be on the hook for money down the road a bridge too far that they can't bear to stomach?