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Viking Rich -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/25/2026 2:56:25 PM)
Tony Pollard: 126 yards, 2 TDs His stock just went up

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/25/2026 3:42:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Richard Neussendorfer This looks exactly like the 2016 team to me. Unfortunately, for me I keep thinking we are on the same hamster wheel from 2022 and 2024. Just like early Zimmer, one good year, one bad, etc. Our offense is worse and defense/ST better than in 2022/2024, so there's that. You can't dispute that, with a healthy qb, KOC has a knack for the regular season, playing ball to cause or take advantage of other teams shooting themselves in the foot. Whatever. It's been fun so far.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/25/2026 3:45:54 PM)
The one dark thought I can't suppress, is this team erupting like an extinction level volcano and playing into the NFCCG ... only for Reichard to have a Gary Anderson type moment and have it suddenly slip away. Very dark. But typical.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/25/2026 3:49:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes The one dark thought I can't suppress, is this team erupting like an extinction level volcano and playing into the NFCCG ... only for Reichard to have a Gary Anderson type moment and have it suddenly slip away. Very dark. But typical. Nah. He got his miss out of the way today.

nfrosty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/25/2026 4:34:23 PM)
Good to see a win today. Not impressed with how our offence played. Watched Giants highlights. JJM looked a lot better than Murray did today. According to my football buddy Mike, Giants coach told JJM not worry about all the crap KO was trying to get him to do and just go play like he did in college. Now imagine if JJM takes the Giants to the playoffs and knocks the Vikings out. I know probably wont happen but if it did, who would get the ax for letting JJM go?

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/25/2026 6:59:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nfrosty Good to see a win today. Not impressed with how our offence played. Watched Giants highlights. JJM looked a lot better than Murray did today. According to my football buddy Mike, Giants coach told JJM not worry about all the crap KO was trying to get him to do and just go play like he did in college. Now imagine if JJM takes the Giants to the playoffs and knocks the Vikings out. I know probably wont happen but if it did, who would get the ax for letting JJM go? Cashman, Greenard, and many others are playing well on the defense side. Just a weird coversation and theory at 6-0.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/25/2026 7:03:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: nfrosty Good to see a win today. Not impressed with how our offence played. Watched Giants highlights. JJM looked a lot better than Murray did today. According to my football buddy Mike, Giants coach told JJM not worry about all the crap KO was trying to get him to do and just go play like he did in college. Now imagine if JJM takes the Giants to the playoffs and knocks the Vikings out. I know probably wont happen but if it did, who would get the ax for letting JJM go? Cashman, Greenard, and many others are playing well on the defense side. Just a weird coversation and theory at 6-0. Greenard?

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/25/2026 7:11:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Phil Riewer quote: ORIGINAL: nfrosty Good to see a win today. Not impressed with how our offence played. Watched Giants highlights. JJM looked a lot better than Murray did today. According to my football buddy Mike, Giants coach told JJM not worry about all the crap KO was trying to get him to do and just go play like he did in college. Now imagine if JJM takes the Giants to the playoffs and knocks the Vikings out. I know probably wont happen but if it did, who would get the ax for letting JJM go? Cashman, Greenard, and many others are playing well on the defense side. Just a weird coversation and theory at 6-0. Greenard? Until we traded him of course. Point is we are worried what JJM is doing for another team when we are 6-0. I cheer for guys playing for us.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/25/2026 7:12:59 PM)
I always wonder how you plan to get Murray going when you start the game with 4 straight runs. With Kirk it took a no huddle or getting way behind to pass every down and work on it. Probably the only bad thing of being 6-0.

Rob Viking -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/25/2026 7:21:41 PM)
Good for JJM, still think he was worth giving the reigns to, but it's a moot point with him and KOC not seeing eye to eye. The D dug in when they had to, only 3 pts allowed after the opening drive. And the Colts are typically good with their scripted drive. Murray was shaky at times but that 30yd run and some nice throws to JJ and Hock give us some hope. It his game awareness needs to improve. Why didn't he just take the free 10 yds in front oh him late in the game. The Mason run and subsequent FG make it all forgotten, but poor game awareness there. We'll know more about this team in the next few weeks that's for usre.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Tal (10/25/2026 7:29:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rob Viking Good for JJM, still think he was worth giving the reigns to, but it's a moot point with him and KOC not seeing eye to eye. The D dug in when they had to, only 3 pts allowed after the opening drive. And the Colts are typically good with their scripted drive. Murray was shaky at times but that 30yd run and some nice throws to JJ and Hock give us some hope. It his game awareness needs to improve. Why didn't he just take the free 10 yds in front oh him late in the game. The Mason run and subsequent FG make it all forgotten, but poor game awareness there. We'll know more about this team in the next few weeks that's for usre. Jennings (if that is what you are referencing)—-he was open a couple of times but he also had a 50/50 ball he dropped at the goal line. Him getting involved should help. The strange thing is even the GB/Detroit game was under there Vegas total by 2 TDs.

David Levine -> RE: General Vikes Tal (10/25/2026 10:42:31 PM)
The Vikings held their last three opponents to a total of 228 passing yards.

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/25/2026 10:48:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes The one dark thought I can't suppress, is this team erupting like an extinction level volcano and playing into the NFCCG ... only for Reichard to have a Gary Anderson type moment and have it suddenly slip away. Very dark. But typical. Nah. He got his miss out of the way today. Yeah. That has no bearing on my paranoia.

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/26/2026 4:33:06 AM)
All McCarthy seems to do is win. He isn't playing like he will be out of the league in 2 years. As long as the Vikings keep on winning, who really cares.

marty -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/26/2026 4:35:01 AM)
KOC seems to now understand the importance of a run game, does he understand the importance of quick hitters, release valves, and to not use slow developing plays on short yardage ?

Lars -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/26/2026 8:39:06 AM)
Glad to get the win. Defense played quite well again. KOC is not a good playcaller. The decision to go for it on 4th down early was dumb. And the decision to try that long FG late - when up by 3 - with the defense playing so well - was idiotic!! Murray looked OK. Missed some easy throws. Drops by Jennings, Bredeson... Hockenson lazily whiffed on two blocks on the LOs and on one scramble by Murray. IND was playing a lot of Cover 2. TE should have had a feast. PS - same thing as KOC - what was LeFluer thinking going for it against DET rather than taking the 3? These supposed "offensive-minded" coaches try to get too cute sometimes.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/26/2026 8:56:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty All McCarthy seems to do is win. He isn't playing like he will be out of the league in 2 years. As long as the Vikings keep on winning, who really cares. NLRTTT No longer relevant to this thread.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/26/2026 9:07:40 AM)
A tale of two teams: After allowing the Packers to score two touchdowns in the first half of Week 1, Flores' defense has allowed a total of four offensive touchdowns over the ensuing five and a half games. The 2026 Minnesota Vikings started the season 6-0 with just 10 total touchdowns, which is tied for the 3rd fewest touchdowns by a 6-0 team in NFL history.

Bill Johanesen -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/26/2026 9:10:50 AM)
That Patriots team played a remarkably easy slate of opponents early in the season, and it's fair to wonder whether the Vikings might have also enjoyed a generous slate of opposing quarterbacks, given that they've faced Baker Mayfield, Malik Willis and Tyler Shough in recent weeks. Of course, they also held a Bears offense that has been explosive and dynamic with Caleb Williams at the helm to three points through three-and-a-half quarters before Williams left the game with a hamstring injury. ... With the Lions, Bills, 49ers and Packers all coming up, Minnesota will be tested by much stiffer competition. Fun piece: And what makes the Vikings such a particularly devastating unit is how the blitz and the threat of the blitz force offenses to react. While the Vikings are a dominant defense when they send extra pressure, they're an even more impressive pass defense when they don't send extra players after the quarterback. They allow just 3.6 yards per attempt and 2.8 yards per dropback when they rush four or fewer, both of which are the best marks for any defense through six games in the QBR era, which dates back to 2007. That's a direct product of shell-shocked offenses overloading their pass protection to account for Flores' blitzes, only to then see a limited number of eligible receivers flooded by seven or eight defenders dropping into coverage.

Trekgeekscott -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/26/2026 9:45:04 AM)
My .02 I was at this game. First time to actually attend a game, and it if weren't for cost, I would do it more frequently. Defense is just stifling. Blake Cashman was everywhere. The defense was having a problem getting off the field on 3rd downs it seemed. Too many 3rd down conversions allowed. I don't get why any team thinks they can just put a TE on Dallas Turner and hope he can be blocked.... Kyler Murray is not the long term answer and I may very well turn very quickly on Nolan Teasley if they keep him after this year. Offense seems flat but at the same time, I am starting to think this is the gameplan. Play it close to the vest, don't take too many chances, protect the football, win time of possession ( which they didn't in this game) keep the oppsing offense off the field and the defense fresh and don't turn the ball over, to give the other team a short field, and let the defense take over the game. Murray did make a couple brutal throws in this game though. Nice having Mason back. he was getting some hard yards. We could however use a RB with vision like Jonathan Taylor.....that man got a lot of his yards through holes that were just barely a hole... our guys would not have been able to do that. Bummer on Reichard getting that one kick blocked, but this offense does need to stop stalling out so he has to kick 55+ yarders all the time. Nice to see Jajuan Jenning finally do something. With a better QB, the pass catching trio of JJ, Addison and Hockenson ought to scare the shit out of opposing DCs. Murray just doesn't work. But again, that could be gameplan too. The problem now is that gameplan isn't going to work as well in the coming weeks when you have the Lions, Bills, Packers, and 49ers and Falcons for that matter on the docket. these teams can all score. I trust our defense to keep us close but the offense NEEDS to stop up a bit. and that means Murray has to start looking a lot more competent. Nice to keep winning. But he next month is going to tell us a lot about our team.

Trekgeekscott -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/26/2026 9:49:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lars Glad to get the win. Defense played quite well again. KOC is not a good playcaller. The decision to go for it on 4th down early was dumb. And the decision to try that long FG late - when up by 3 - with the defense playing so well - was idiotic!! Well, this I have to disagree with.... By going up by six, you put the game in the hands of your defense, make the other team have to score a TD against a Defense that was stifling their passing game for the most part. and hasn't given up a fourth quarter TD. I fully agreed with this call. quote: Murray looked OK. Missed some easy throws. Drops by Jennings, Bredeson... Meh, he's not turning the ball over, but he's not taking over games either. He did some good things and some bad. some of those throws were off. quote: Hockenson lazily whiffed on two blocks on the LOs and on one scramble by Murray. He's never been known for his blocking ability. quote: IND was playing a lot of Cover 2. TE should have had a feast. PS - same thing as KOC - what was LeFluer thinking going for it against DET rather than taking the 3? These supposed "offensive-minded" coaches try to get too cute sometimes. Going for it on 4th down early wasn't a bad idea, it just wasn't a good play called to get the first. and it was executed even worse.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/26/2026 10:57:55 AM)
🤞🏼 @SkolBros Trades coming. 🤔

Tom Sykes -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/26/2026 11:15:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott My .02 I was at this game. First time to actually attend a game, and it if weren't for cost, I would do it more frequently. Defense is just stifling. Blake Cashman was everywhere. The defense was having a problem getting off the field on 3rd downs it seemed. Too many 3rd down conversions allowed. I don't get why any team thinks they can just put a TE on Dallas Turner and hope he can be blocked.... Kyler Murray is not the long term answer and I may very well turn very quickly on Nolan Teasley if they keep him after this year. Offense seems flat but at the same time, I am starting to think this is the gameplan. Play it close to the vest, don't take too many chances, protect the football, win time of possession ( which they didn't in this game) keep the oppsing offense off the field and the defense fresh and don't turn the ball over, to give the other team a short field, and let the defense take over the game. Murray did make a couple brutal throws in this game though. Nice having Mason back. he was getting some hard yards. We could however use a RB with vision like Jonathan Taylor.....that man got a lot of his yards through holes that were just barely a hole... our guys would not have been able to do that. Bummer on Reichard getting that one kick blocked, but this offense does need to stop stalling out so he has to kick 55+ yarders all the time. Nice to see Jajuan Jenning finally do something. With a better QB, the pass catching trio of JJ, Addison and Hockenson ought to scare the shit out of opposing DCs. Murray just doesn't work. But again, that could be gameplan too. The problem now is that gameplan isn't going to work as well in the coming weeks when you have the Lions, Bills, Packers, and 49ers and Falcons for that matter on the docket. these teams can all score. I trust our defense to keep us close but the offense NEEDS to stop up a bit. and that means Murray has to start looking a lot more competent. Nice to keep winning. But he next month is going to tell us a lot about our team. There does some to be some intentionality behind the flatness. Maybe I'm just reading too much into it. Unlike 2022 and 2024 when it felt like we were sailing through the season, with little change in approach first game to last game ... and why would we when you're racking up wins? Until you get shredded at the end of the season by teams that are peaking. This feels a little bit more like a big picture building process ... trying to develop the run / manage the clock to help the QB and defense while they sharpen their spears for the real battle ahead. (the defense was also a letdown at the end of 2022 and 2024) Often the flatness is just poor play of course. And maybe we'll just flatline at some point (again). I'm hoping that unlike 2022 and 2024, we actually see the requirement for improving our attack to end up peaking in game 16 or 17 instead of just getting it done game 1 thru 15. A trajectory more reliant on a rugged, well-rounded team than fancy pants offense and tricky defense.

Phil Riewer -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/26/2026 11:35:42 AM)
The coach ruined early game momentum by running it 4 times after a great KR. Yes Kyler missed a wide open Juan but also he gave Addison and Juan chances by the goal line to make plays and neither did.

beo -> RE: General Vikes Talk (10/26/2026 11:54:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tom Sykes quote: ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott My .02 I was at this game. First time to actually attend a game, and it if weren't for cost, I would do it more frequently. Defense is just stifling. Blake Cashman was everywhere. The defense was having a problem getting off the field on 3rd downs it seemed. Too many 3rd down conversions allowed. I don't get why any team thinks they can just put a TE on Dallas Turner and hope he can be blocked.... Kyler Murray is not the long term answer and I may very well turn very quickly on Nolan Teasley if they keep him after this year. Offense seems flat but at the same time, I am starting to think this is the gameplan. Play it close to the vest, don't take too many chances, protect the football, win time of possession ( which they didn't in this game) keep the oppsing offense off the field and the defense fresh and don't turn the ball over, to give the other team a short field, and let the defense take over the game. Murray did make a couple brutal throws in this game though. Nice having Mason back. he was getting some hard yards. We could however use a RB with vision like Jonathan Taylor.....that man got a lot of his yards through holes that were just barely a hole... our guys would not have been able to do that. Bummer on Reichard getting that one kick blocked, but this offense does need to stop stalling out so he has to kick 55+ yarders all the time. Nice to see Jajuan Jenning finally do something. With a better QB, the pass catching trio of JJ, Addison and Hockenson ought to scare the shit out of opposing DCs. Murray just doesn't work. But again, that could be gameplan too. The problem now is that gameplan isn't going to work as well in the coming weeks when you have the Lions, Bills, Packers, and 49ers and Falcons for that matter on the docket. these teams can all score. I trust our defense to keep us close but the offense NEEDS to stop up a bit. and that means Murray has to start looking a lot more competent. Nice to keep winning. But he next month is going to tell us a lot about our team. There does some to be some intentionality behind the flatness. Maybe I'm just reading too much into it. Unlike 2022 and 2024 when it felt like we were sailing through the season, with little change in approach first game to last game ... and why would we when you're racking up wins? Until you get shredded at the end of the season by teams that are peaking. This feels a little bit more like a big picture building process ... trying to develop the run / manage the clock to help the QB and defense while they sharpen their spears for the real battle ahead. (the defense was also a letdown at the end of 2022 and 2024) Often the flatness is just poor play of course. And maybe we'll just flatline at some point (again). I'm hoping that unlike 2022 and 2024, we actually see the requirement for improving our attack to end up peaking in game 16 or 17 instead of just getting it done game 1 thru 15. A trajectory more reliant on a rugged, well-rounded team than fancy pants offense and tricky defense. I have no problem with a "flat" ball control offense. With this defense that makes a ton of sense... don't turn the ball over and you will have a shot to win. But for that to work Murray has to be efficient. Missed serveral big throws to open guys yesterday. He also was late on a number of throws which would have been easy first downs... he is either processing slow or just indecisive... allowing the db to recover make a play. I thought Murray was making steady progress but yesterday was a step back and that is concerning.

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