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John Childress -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/23/2010 10:43:07 AM)
I have never seen any selfishness from Peterson. He is his own harshest critic and I really feel the reason he wants the ball is not for personal records but to help the team win. Peterson and Harvin give you their all on the field. tasty crow

marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/23/2010 2:04:02 PM)
I don't think it's overt , I think it's subconscious, hence the fumbles. But IF he can be the hero, I think AD can rise to the occasion. [sm=buttrock.gif][sm=helga.gif]

drviking -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/23/2010 2:12:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty I've never claimed to be sane, and there's no reason to reason when trying to predict the reason there will be a certain outcome in a game. [;)] It should all be done by feel, with a little logic intertwined. I think the person that talked about Peterson breaking a TD on special teams if Harvin can't make the trip, COULD be onto something .... I think Peterson is just DYING to once again be the STAR of the team. He resents Favre getting ALL the limelight, and that may be part of the reason for all the fumbles. wow.....just wow that may be the dumbest post i have ever read i have not used IPblock, but a few more of these whoppers and i may have to, just to preserve brain cells resents favre..........yikes

Lynn G. -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/23/2010 2:53:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty I don't think it's overt , I think it's subconscious, hence the fumbles. If it was subconscious we'd be seeing it in the body language when the two are near each other. Absolutely doesn't exist. You're going to have to make something else up. [:D]

69in09 -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/23/2010 3:35:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty I don't think it's overt , I think it's subconscious, hence the fumbles. But IF he can be the hero, I think AD can rise to the occasion. [sm=buttrock.gif][sm=helga.gif] One more of those and I'm telling your parents that you are on the computer!

69in09 -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 1:01:55 AM)
Vikings 38 Saints 16 - Dominant performance. Run game and short & mid range passing there all day. Saints move the ball OK but get FGs - not TD's we pull away.

So.Mn.Fan -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 1:31:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: 69in09 Vikings 38 Saints 16 - Dominant performance. Run game and short & mid range passing there all day. Saints move the ball OK but get FGs - not TD's we pull away. Barooooooooooooooooooo!

69in09 -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 1:51:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: 69in09 Vikings 38 Saints 16 - Dominant performance. Run game and short & mid range passing there all day. Saints move the ball OK but get FGs - not TD's we pull away. BTW- The performance will be so dominant- it will be reffered to as "The Big Easy".

thebigo -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 2:13:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: 69in09 quote: ORIGINAL: 69in09 Vikings 38 Saints 16 - Dominant performance. Run game and short & mid range passing there all day. Saints move the ball OK but get FGs - not TD's we pull away. BTW- The performance will be so dominant- it will be reffered to as "The Big Easy". [&:]

marty -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 4:41:30 AM)
I don't think it's too big of stretch to think that a player who once carried the team on its' back, one who thought of it as HIS team, who broke the NFL single game rushing record, resents NOT Favre, but the fact that it has become Favre's team, that Favre gets most of the attention and that he [Peterson] has become somewhat of just another piece of the machinery, an important part, but something kind of in the background. I think this is somewhat behind all the fumbling. And I think AD doesn't need to be the reason the Vikes win a SB, but I think he wouldn't at all mind just having his day in the sun (even if it is in a Dome). I think (hoping) his highlight reel day will be today, and he'll be fondly remembered as the person that got the Vikes to the SB. I think he'll relish the role of carrying the team, like he did in Cleveland in the 1st game. I'm close to switching my prediction to the Vikes, but just can't do it just yet. It really doesn't matter, as they don't need ME to pick them in order to win. I hope one of you guys or gals nails the score right, with the Vikes winning.

eduardo5046 -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 7:18:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marty I don't think it's too big of stretch to think that a player who once carried the team on its' back, one who thought of it as HIS team, who broke the NFL single game rushing record, resents NOT Favre, but the fact that it has become Favre's team, that Favre gets most of the attention and that he [Peterson] has become somewhat of just another piece of the machinery, an important part, but something kind of in the background. I think this is somewhat behind all the fumbling. And I think AD doesn't need to be the reason the Vikes win a SB, but I think he wouldn't at all mind just having his day in the sun (even if it is in a Dome). I think (hoping) his highlight reel day will be today, and he'll be fondly remembered as the person that got the Vikes to the SB. I think he'll relish the role of carrying the team, like he did in Cleveland in the 1st game. I'm close to switching my prediction to the Vikes, but just can't do it just yet. It really doesn't matter, as they don't need ME to pick them in order to win. I hope one of you guys or gals nails the score right, with the Vikes winning. The fumbling thingy might have some validity if he became a fumbler this year . Since he had issues with this for the whole two years before Favre got here and actually improved this year over last . IMO you don't have a leg to stand on !

Brad H -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 8:31:34 AM)
Some of us in here have been saying the Vikings need a quarterback for 10 years. They finally got one and are now one game from the Super Bowl. How many times have you heard me say this is a passing league now?

eduardo5046 -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 10:27:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H Some of us in here have been saying the Vikings need a quarterback for 10 years. They finally got one and are now one game from the Super Bowl. How many times have you heard me say this is a passing league now? Passing gets you past the weak sisters of the league with inferior defenses that you just outscore , it gets you into the playoffs ! Just look at the postseason stats the top 5 passing teams in this years playoffs have all been eliminated . The Jets and NO rank in the top five rushing teams in the playoffs and the Vikings right behind them are all still in of the four left ! The only aberration is the team that has Peyton Manning ! Just like you defense starts at the corners theory it only works when you have Darelle Revis at CB . The problem with your theories is that there is only one Payton Manning and one Darelle Revis !!! If you are lucky enough to have one of them then yes you can go with that flow if not you better have a D that stops the run , rushes the passer and you better be able to run the ball and control the lines of scrimmage or you are not winning shit !

John Childress -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 10:33:52 AM)
The aberration is the Jets. The other 3 teams have the top 3 QBs in the NFL this year. That speaks volumes. The NFL is all about the passing game, running is just a change of pace from passing. The 3 best QBs are in the final four and the other team has the best CB in the NFL by far - a position charged with stopping QBs. This year's Final 4 tells you how the NFL has evolved over the years. Look at the Vikings - led by Peterson they couldn't even beat a Wild Card team. Led by Favre they are going to the SB. It is all about the QB

Brad H -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 10:47:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: eduardo5046 quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H Some of us in here have been saying the Vikings need a quarterback for 10 years. They finally got one and are now one game from the Super Bowl. How many times have you heard me say this is a passing league now? Passing gets you past the weak sisters of the league with inferior defenses that you just outscore , it gets you into the playoffs ! Just look at the postseason stats the top 5 passing teams in this years playoffs have all been eliminated . The Jets and NO rank in the top five rushing teams in the playoffs and the Vikings right behind them are all still in of the four left ! The only aberration is the team that has Peyton Manning ! Just like you defense starts at the corners theory it only works when you have Darelle Revis at CB . The problem with your theories is that there is only one Payton Manning and one Darelle Revis !!! If you are lucky enough to have one of them then yes you can go with that flow if not you better have a D that stops the run , rushes the passer and you better be able to run the ball and control the lines of scrimmage or you are not winning shit ! Way too broad of a brush. Although I agree today, if Minnesota can run the ball they can win, football is all about matchups. I thought the Cowboys were a great matchup for the Vikings because of the offense the Cowboys run. New Orleans, however, is very similar to Minnesota in a lot of aspects. If the Vikings have any advantages, it may be in the ability to stop the run. The Saints are a bit soft against the run, but are improving with guys like Sedric Ellis. Jonathan Vilma is also starting to look like a star in the makings.

Brad H -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 10:49:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress The aberration is the Jets. The other 3 teams have the top 3 QBs in the NFL this year. That speaks volumes. The NFL is all about the passing game, running is just a change of pace from passing. The 3 best QBs are in the final four and the other team has the best CB in the NFL by far - a position charged with stopping QBs. This year's Final 4 tells you how the NFL has evolved over the years. Look at the Vikings - led by Peterson they couldn't even beat a Wild Card team. Led by Favre they are going to the SB. It is all about the QB It is a passing league now. As good as Adrian Peterson can be, the Vikings didn't flourish until they had a guy under center that could make plays.

John Childress -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 10:53:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: eduardo5046 quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H Some of us in here have been saying the Vikings need a quarterback for 10 years. They finally got one and are now one game from the Super Bowl. How many times have you heard me say this is a passing league now? Passing gets you past the weak sisters of the league with inferior defenses that you just outscore , it gets you into the playoffs ! Just look at the postseason stats the top 5 passing teams in this years playoffs have all been eliminated . The Jets and NO rank in the top five rushing teams in the playoffs and the Vikings right behind them are all still in of the four left ! The only aberration is the team that has Peyton Manning ! Just like you defense starts at the corners theory it only works when you have Darelle Revis at CB . The problem with your theories is that there is only one Payton Manning and one Darelle Revis !!! If you are lucky enough to have one of them then yes you can go with that flow if not you better have a D that stops the run , rushes the passer and you better be able to run the ball and control the lines of scrimmage or you are not winning shit ! Way too broad of a brush. Although I agree today, if Minnesota can run the ball they can win, football is all about matchups. I thought the Cowboys were a great matchup for the Vikings because of the offense the Cowboys run. New Orleans, however, is very similar to Minnesota in a lot of aspects. If the Vikings have any advantages, it may be in the ability to stop the run. The Saints are a bit soft against the run, but are improving with guys like Sedric Ellis. I think both offenses are bad matchups for these defenses Saints O v Minn D - the problem we will have is Brees' quick release and our usually soft coverage. We need to play a lot more tight coverage this week, like last week, to slow them down. Brees normally doesn't hold the ball enough to get sacked much. Vikings O v Saints D - we can pound them all day long. Most of the Saints games I have seen they only stopped the other team's running game when the other team stopped running!

Brad H -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 11:16:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: eduardo5046 quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H Some of us in here have been saying the Vikings need a quarterback for 10 years. They finally got one and are now one game from the Super Bowl. How many times have you heard me say this is a passing league now? Passing gets you past the weak sisters of the league with inferior defenses that you just outscore , it gets you into the playoffs ! Just look at the postseason stats the top 5 passing teams in this years playoffs have all been eliminated . The Jets and NO rank in the top five rushing teams in the playoffs and the Vikings right behind them are all still in of the four left ! The only aberration is the team that has Peyton Manning ! Just like you defense starts at the corners theory it only works when you have Darelle Revis at CB . The problem with your theories is that there is only one Payton Manning and one Darelle Revis !!! If you are lucky enough to have one of them then yes you can go with that flow if not you better have a D that stops the run , rushes the passer and you better be able to run the ball and control the lines of scrimmage or you are not winning shit ! Way too broad of a brush. Although I agree today, if Minnesota can run the ball they can win, football is all about matchups. I thought the Cowboys were a great matchup for the Vikings because of the offense the Cowboys run. New Orleans, however, is very similar to Minnesota in a lot of aspects. If the Vikings have any advantages, it may be in the ability to stop the run. The Saints are a bit soft against the run, but are improving with guys like Sedric Ellis. I think both offenses are bad matchups for these defenses Saints O v Minn D - the problem we will have is Brees' quick release and our usually soft coverage. We need to play a lot more tight coverage this week, like last week, to slow them down. Brees normally doesn't hold the ball enough to get sacked much. Vikings O v Saints D - we can pound them all day long. Most of the Saints games I have seen they only stopped the other team's running game when the other team stopped running! Agree entirely. IMO, this game today is going to be decided by which quarterback makes the most plays. The one thing that Brees is susceptible to is getting passes batted at the line of scrimmage. If the inside guys can get a good push and get their arms in the air, Brees is a small guy and tends to get a lot of balls batted around. A couple of cheap interceptions would be nice.

John Childress -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 11:25:13 AM)
If we ATTACK Brees, we can do real well. On offense, we need a good mix of run and pass

Brad H -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 11:31:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress If we ATTACK Brees, we can do real well. On offense, we need a good mix of run and pass I think you have to be real careful when you attack Brees. I would blitz in the red zone, but I wouldn't do a lot of blitzing on the rest of the field. They have too many guys that are great after the catch (Meachum, Henderson, Bush) and you put a lot of pressure on them guys to make tackles in the open field if Brees reads the blitz. If I am the Vikings on defense, I let them have fun between the 20's and try to stop them in the red zone. Bend but don't break.

Guest -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 11:42:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress If we ATTACK Brees, we can do real well. On offense, we need a good mix of run and pass I think you have to be real careful when you attack Brees. I would blitz in the red zone, but I wouldn't do a lot of blitzing on the rest of the field. They have too many guys that are great after the catch (Meachum, Henderson, Bush) and you put a lot of pressure on them guys to make tackles in the open field if Brees reads the blitz. If I am the Vikings on defense, I let them have fun between the 20's and try to stop them in the red zone. Bend but don't break. Don't recall blitzing much at all last week, and we put constant pressure on Romo. I guess we'll know real soon if we are getting there or not.

Brad H -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 11:44:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kurt bilben quote: ORIGINAL: Brad H quote: ORIGINAL: John Childress If we ATTACK Brees, we can do real well. On offense, we need a good mix of run and pass I think you have to be real careful when you attack Brees. I would blitz in the red zone, but I wouldn't do a lot of blitzing on the rest of the field. They have too many guys that are great after the catch (Meachum, Henderson, Bush) and you put a lot of pressure on them guys to make tackles in the open field if Brees reads the blitz. If I am the Vikings on defense, I let them have fun between the 20's and try to stop them in the red zone. Bend but don't break. Don't recall blitzing much at all last week, and we put constant pressure on Romo. I guess we'll know real soon if we are getting there or not. Different type of offense we are facing today.

Steve Lentz -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 11:50:02 AM)
Blitzing won't be real effective either. We are a poor blitzing team and Brees is excellent in reading the blitz and gets rid of the ball very quickly. I expect mostly a 4 man rush with most everybody else focusing on coverage.

Steve Lentz -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 11:52:03 AM)
AD is still one of the very best and a huge factore in Favre's passing success. I'm sure all they both worry about is winning, and that's why the year has been so successful.

Steve Lentz -> RE: Predictions for Next Week (and maybe beyond) (1/24/2010 11:53:04 AM)
Every year AD has been here the wins have been increasing and now with the addittion of a good QB we're knocking at the final door.

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