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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

Art - I definitely agree that we eat way too much beef in our diets, and portion size is crazy at restaurants.

But I'm not ready to give up that perfectly seared porterhouse or rib eye that we cook on our own grill. Best ever!

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

So I sourced out my milk and eggs yesterday. Not sure if t it can be taken a step further or not but I think I'm content with my choices.

Grass fed milk. Did some research on which was better grass fed vs organic. I guess I care more about the treatment than how the lands they graze on are cared for. Found a nice producer where they are fed a 100%. grass diet and seemed to be cared for very well. Absolutely the best milk I ever tasted. You can taste the happiness from the cows. 4 liters of sad cow milk is about $4.50 here and this was 2L for $6.50. This is fine by me.

Eggs. Went with 'free run' eggs. I guess they are inside but have free run to do chicken things and lay eggs as they will in their nests. Fed an all grain diet enriched with flax seed to give them the preferred omega 3-6 ratio. A little more than double the price but again I'm fine with that.

Two good choices I feel good about.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

So I sourced out my milk and eggs yesterday. Not sure if t it can be taken a step further or not but I think I'm content with my choices.

Grass fed milk. Did some research on which was better grass fed vs organic. I guess I care more about the treatment than how the lands they graze on are cared for. Found a nice producer where they are fed a 100%. grass diet and seemed to be cared for very well. Absolutely the best milk I ever tasted. You can taste the happiness from the cows. 4 liters of sad cow milk is about $4.50 here and this was 2L for $6.50. This is fine by me.

Eggs. Went with 'free run' eggs. I guess they are inside but have free run to do chicken things and lay eggs as they will in their nests. Fed an all grain diet enriched with flax seed to give them the preferred omega 3-6 ratio. A little more than double the price but again I'm fine with that.

Two good choices I feel good about.

Free run or free range?

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I applaud you for trying. Research can be tough. The government (at least in the US) can mask crap treatment and standards with loose wording in what things like "free range" or "organic" really mean.

You don't have a family owned farm near by? That's really the best bet, if available. Especially if they allow you to come by at anytime. Some have specific days they have tours. That's always a bit fishy to me. Might be paranoid about it though. I don't trust any of those types of industries. They don't care about animals/people/health ect. Just money.

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98% of Canada’s 26 million egg laying hens are kept in battery cages
Battery cages usually hold four or more hens which are crowded into an area measuring just sixteen inches wide. The cages are stacked in tiers and lined up in rows in huge sheds. The hens are crowded so tightly, that they cannot even stretch their wings or legs. Constantly rubbing against the wire cages, they suffer from severe feather loss, and their bodies are covered with bruises and abrasions. Some birds to not survive this ordeal – it is not uncommon to discover rotting bird carcasses inside the cages.

The Canadian Coalition for Farm Animals (CCFA) and the Vancouver Humane Society (VHS) are asking the public to stop buying eggs from hens raised in cruel and inhumane conditions. They say that more humane alternatives do exist and are readily available in supermarkets across the country. “Certified organic, free-range or free-run eggs all come from hens that were not in cages.”

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

So I sourced out my milk and eggs yesterday. Not sure if t it can be taken a step further or not but I think I'm content with my choices.

Grass fed milk. Did some research on which was better grass fed vs organic. I guess I care more about the treatment than how the lands they graze on are cared for. Found a nice producer where they are fed a 100%. grass diet and seemed to be cared for very well. Absolutely the best milk I ever tasted. You can taste the happiness from the cows. 4 liters of sad cow milk is about $4.50 here and this was 2L for $6.50. This is fine by me.

Eggs. Went with 'free run' eggs. I guess they are inside but have free run to do chicken things and lay eggs as they will in their nests. Fed an all grain diet enriched with flax seed to give them the preferred omega 3-6 ratio. A little more than double the price but again I'm fine with that.

Two good choices I feel good about.

Free run or free range?

Free run. Indoors in a barn but free to run about.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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98% of Canada’s 26 million egg laying hens are kept in battery cages
Battery cages usually hold four or more hens which are crowded into an area measuring just sixteen inches wide. The cages are stacked in tiers and lined up in rows in huge sheds. The hens are crowded so tightly, that they cannot even stretch their wings or legs. Constantly rubbing against the wire cages, they suffer from severe feather loss, and their bodies are covered with bruises and abrasions. Some birds to not survive this ordeal – it is not uncommon to discover rotting bird carcasses inside the cages.

The Canadian Coalition for Farm Animals (CCFA) and the Vancouver Humane Society (VHS) are asking the public to stop buying eggs from hens raised in cruel and inhumane conditions. They say that more humane alternatives do exist and are readily available in supermarkets across the country. “Certified organic, free-range or free-run eggs all come from hens that were not in cages.”

Gonna go forward believing I'm no longer part of that 98%.

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

So I sourced out my milk and eggs yesterday. Not sure if t it can be taken a step further or not but I think I'm content with my choices.

Grass fed milk. Did some research on which was better grass fed vs organic. I guess I care more about the treatment than how the lands they graze on are cared for. Found a nice producer where they are fed a 100%. grass diet and seemed to be cared for very well. Absolutely the best milk I ever tasted. You can taste the happiness from the cows. 4 liters of sad cow milk is about $4.50 here and this was 2L for $6.50. This is fine by me.

Eggs. Went with 'free run' eggs. I guess they are inside but have free run to do chicken things and lay eggs as they will in their nests. Fed an all grain diet enriched with flax seed to give them the preferred omega 3-6 ratio. A little more than double the price but again I'm fine with that.

Two good choices I feel good about.

Free run or free range?

Free run. Indoors in a barn but free to run about.

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

So I sourced out my milk and eggs yesterday. Not sure if t it can be taken a step further or not but I think I'm content with my choices.

Grass fed milk. Did some research on which was better grass fed vs organic. I guess I care more about the treatment than how the lands they graze on are cared for. Found a nice producer where they are fed a 100%. grass diet and seemed to be cared for very well. Absolutely the best milk I ever tasted. You can taste the happiness from the cows. 4 liters of sad cow milk is about $4.50 here and this was 2L for $6.50. This is fine by me.

Eggs. Went with 'free run' eggs. I guess they are inside but have free run to do chicken things and lay eggs as they will in their nests. Fed an all grain diet enriched with flax seed to give them the preferred omega 3-6 ratio. A little more than double the price but again I'm fine with that.

Two good choices I feel good about.

Free run or free range?

Free run. Indoors in a barn but free to run about.

Free Run eggs are produced by hens that run free in an open concept barn that has a variety of nests and perches. They are not housed in cages. Free Range hens have the same freedoms and they also have access to roam outdoors.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

I've got a lot and half over by the tracks with a garage on it. We've been talking about raising a few chickens. But they'd be for looking at, not eatin'

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

I've got a lot and half over by the tracks with a garage on it. We've been talking about raising a few chickens. But they'd be for looking at, not eatin'

What about the eggs?

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

So I sourced out my milk and eggs yesterday. Not sure if t it can be taken a step further or not but I think I'm content with my choices.

Grass fed milk. Did some research on which was better grass fed vs organic. I guess I care more about the treatment than how the lands they graze on are cared for. Found a nice producer where they are fed a 100%. grass diet and seemed to be cared for very well. Absolutely the best milk I ever tasted. You can taste the happiness from the cows. 4 liters of sad cow milk is about $4.50 here and this was 2L for $6.50. This is fine by me.

Eggs. Went with 'free run' eggs. I guess they are inside but have free run to do chicken things and lay eggs as they will in their nests. Fed an all grain diet enriched with flax seed to give them the preferred omega 3-6 ratio. A little more than double the price but again I'm fine with that.

Two good choices I feel good about.

Free run or free range?

Free run. Indoors in a barn but free to run about.

Free Run eggs are produced by hens that run free in an open concept barn that has a variety of nests and perches. They are not housed in cages. Free Range hens have the same freedoms and they also have access to roam outdoors.

Understood. I think either is fine.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

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ORIGINAL: Todd M

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

I've got a lot and half over by the tracks with a garage on it. We've been talking about raising a few chickens. But they'd be for looking at, not eatin'

What about the eggs?

Haven't even thought about that aspect of it but I'm sure that'd be a cool bonus. We get our eggs from a farm. Easily pay 2x what you would pay at Kwik Star. I'm interested in how they'd be classified now

You sure are challenging me to move forward ...

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

I'm in agreement that I'm happy to pay more for a product if it checks a box in my morality/humanity column. I'm going to have to research locally on where to get free-range or free-run eggs.

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

I've got a lot and half over by the tracks with a garage on it. We've been talking about raising a few chickens. But they'd be for looking at, not eatin'

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ORIGINAL: Brad H

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

I'm in agreement that I'm happy to pay more for a product if it checks a box in my morality/humanity column. I'm going to have to research locally on where to get free-range or free-run eggs.

Pretty sure they sell free range eggs at any grocery store.

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: Ricky J

I've got a lot and half over by the tracks with a garage on it. We've been talking about raising a few chickens. But they'd be for looking at, not eatin'

My wife’s uncle on The Big Island raises chickens. He has about a dozen females and a rooster. They’re basically pets, but the eggs are AMAZING.

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

If you ever get the chance and can buy eggs from the farm you will really notice the difference from your store boughten egg.

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Bill Jandro

If you ever get the chance and can buy eggs from the farm you will really notice the difference from your store boughten egg.

My wife grew up on a farm and doesn't like chicken bought from a store. Says it doesn't taste right.