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SoMnFan -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/22/2017 7:43:35 PM)

Guess who's moved on to the Super Regionals?
yep, teams SEEDED 1 thru 16.
Hmmmmm.

[&:]




twinsfan -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/22/2017 9:09:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Guess who's moved on to the Super Regionals?
yep, teams SEEDED 1 thru 16.
Hmmmmm.

[&:]

Cuz they all played home games and had the umps in their back pocket.




SoMnFan -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/22/2017 9:56:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Guess who's moved on to the Super Regionals?
yep, teams SEEDED 1 thru 16.
Hmmmmm.

[&:]

Cuz they all played home games and had the umps in their back pocket.

Or maybe cuz the B10 should get good at a sport before they start telling everyone how to rank it. [;)]




kgdabom -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/23/2017 11:20:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Guess who's moved on to the Super Regionals?
yep, teams SEEDED 1 thru 16.
Hmmmmm.

[&:]

Cuz they all played home games and had the umps in their back pocket.

That is an amazing outcome. Teams with home field advantage won 16 out of 16 times. Odds against that happening are ridiculous.




twinsfan -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/23/2017 2:22:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Guess who's moved on to the Super Regionals?
yep, teams SEEDED 1 thru 16.
Hmmmmm.

[&:]

Cuz they all played home games and had the umps in their back pocket.

That is an amazing outcome. Teams with home field advantage won 16 out of 16 times. Odds against that happening are ridiculous.

So....the question remains...was it wrong to leave the Gophers unseeded?




TJSweens -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/23/2017 2:48:46 PM)

No the question has been answered. It was wrong. Champions of a major conference. Winner of that conferences tournament. Best record in the nation. Great record against the teams that made the tournament. Not seeding them was inexcusable then just as it is now.

The results point to a great need to move the regions and super regions to neutral sites. That way you don't get local umpiring crews calling phantom HBP and calling balls on pitches right over the plate all to the benefit of the host team.




Phil Riewer -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/23/2017 3:06:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

No the question has been answered. It was wrong. Champions of a major conference. Winner of that conferences tournament. Best record in the nation. Great record against the teams that made the tournament. Not seeding them was inexcusable then just as it is now.

The results point to a great need to move the regions and super regions to neutral sites. That way you don't get local umpiring crews calling phantom HBP and calling balls on pitches right over the plate all to the benefit of the host team.


Best thing to do would be to schedule a doubleheader with Alabama next year instead of SD and/or NDSU....and kick the living crap out of them.




Phil Riewer -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/23/2017 3:07:24 PM)

We should have beaten the 16 seed....even on the road at their place. They haven't faced a ranked team since March 15th but it was still a screw job.




David Levine -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/23/2017 3:18:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Guess who's moved on to the Super Regionals?
yep, teams SEEDED 1 thru 16.
Hmmmmm.

[&:]

Cuz they all played home games and had the umps in their back pocket.

Or maybe cuz the B10 should get good at a sport before they start telling everyone how to rank it. [;)]


There is some truth here...




SoMnFan -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/23/2017 4:14:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Guess who's moved on to the Super Regionals?
yep, teams SEEDED 1 thru 16.
Hmmmmm.

[&:]

Cuz they all played home games and had the umps in their back pocket.

Or maybe cuz the B10 should get good at a sport before they start telling everyone how to rank it. [;)]


There is some truth here...


IT PLAYED OUT

The rankings were DEAD SPOT ON
I wasn't happy about it either, but until you prove otherwise. you're stuck.




Mr. Ed -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/23/2017 6:51:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Guess who's moved on to the Super Regionals?
yep, teams SEEDED 1 thru 16.
Hmmmmm.

[&:]

Cuz they all played home games and had the umps in their back pocket.

Or maybe cuz the B10 should get good at a sport before they start telling everyone how to rank it. [;)]


There is some truth here...


IT PLAYED OUT

The rankings were DEAD SPOT ON
I wasn't happy about it either, but until you prove otherwise. you're stuck.



Good luck improving the conference, B10.

Too many "good" players want to stay in the south and play.




SoMnFan -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/23/2017 6:52:54 PM)

VB was that way a long time ... but changed
See it in other sports too ... Lacrosse, etc.
Last year was the first time any team west of the Mississippi won a title in Lacrosse. [:-]




twinsfan -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/23/2017 9:40:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

VB was that way a long time ... but changed
See it in other sports too ... Lacrosse, etc.
Last year was the first time any team west of the Mississippi won a title in Lacrosse. [:-]

Why would you know such a worthless fact?




SoMnFan -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/23/2017 9:45:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

VB was that way a long time ... but changed
See it in other sports too ... Lacrosse, etc.
Last year was the first time any team west of the Mississippi won a title in Lacrosse. [:-]

Why would you know such a worthless fact?

Because Lacrosse is the second-toughest sport to play, and I admire those kids, too.




kgdabom -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/24/2017 12:07:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Guess who's moved on to the Super Regionals?
yep, teams SEEDED 1 thru 16.
Hmmmmm.

[&:]

Cuz they all played home games and had the umps in their back pocket.

That is an amazing outcome. Teams with home field advantage won 16 out of 16 times. Odds against that happening are ridiculous.

So....the question remains...was it wrong to leave the Gophers unseeded?

Absolutely unquestionably wrong to leave the Gophers unseeded. Seedings are based on information available at the time of the seeding. Results of the tournament are unknown at the time of the seeding so they have nothing to do with it. The Gophers were ranked 2nd in the nation at time of seeding and even if you go by RPI the worst seed they should have got was 12th.




kgdabom -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/24/2017 12:08:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

No the question has been answered. It was wrong. Champions of a major conference. Winner of that conferences tournament. Best record in the nation. Great record against the teams that made the tournament. Not seeding them was inexcusable then just as it is now.

The results point to a great need to move the regions and super regions to neutral sites. That way you don't get local umpiring crews calling phantom HBP and calling balls on pitches right over the plate all to the benefit of the host team.

+1




SoMnFan -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/24/2017 3:30:50 PM)

Seedings were .....
Dead
Spot
On




David Levine -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/24/2017 3:44:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Seedings were .....
Dead
Spot
On


Yup. Big fish, little pond.

Even out softball version of Barry Bonds did nothing in the tourney. 3/11 for the 4 games. Total non-factor in the final 3.




SoMnFan -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/24/2017 9:14:51 PM)

Reusse ranks the Gopher programs.
Pretty decent year.
Lets hope the trend keeps heading UP.

There is a University of Minnesota graduate of notable accomplishment in the business world who has been e-mailing me views of Gophers sports for several years. Most of those were not favorable as to what the alumnus was witnessing in athletic endeavors.

That’s what made the latest e-mail a contrast, with his suggestion the Gophers deserved a tribute for a strong all-around athletic performance in the 2016-17 school year.


There are 23 sports (unless you count indoor and outdoor track and field as separate entities). A majority are based on individual accomplishment adding up to team point totals. Then there are the team sports: football, basketball (men and women), hockey (men and women), baseball, softball, volleyball and soccer.

Rowing is also a team sport, while operating largely in anonymity. Meantime, wrestling is individual, but at Minnesota, it has a tradition of being judged on team success.

So what we have being considered here are 10 team sports, with five for the women athletes (basketball, hockey, volleyball, softball and soccer) and five for the men (football, basketball, hockey, wrestling and baseball).

I think we need a power rating when it comes to the role of these teams in contributing (or not) to the successful 2016-17 for the Gophers. Remember, this is based on what took place on the fields and floors, not off them.


10. Women’s basketball. The only true failure among the Gophers squads considered was Marlene Stollings’ third team. A season after Stollings managed to miss the NCAA tournament with superstar Rachel Banham, the 2016-17 Gophers were 6-12 in the Big Ten (including 1-1 in the tournament) as the program continued its disappearance from the Twin Cities sports landscape.

9. Women’s hockey. You know it was a tremendous year for U athletics when a hockey team that goes 26-8-5 and reaches the national semifinals is placed here in the success rankings. Yet, the Gophers are the Alabama of women’s hockey when it comes to attracting recruits — there were only 35 schools competing — and 2016-17 was a falloff from the domination of recent seasons (including back-to-back national titles in 2015 and 2016).

8. Baseball. The Gophers were 7-0 to start the Big Ten, faltered and then had a chance to claim a second consecutive regular-season title last weekend by winning two of three from Purdue at Siebert Field. They blew that by losing the first two. On Wednesday, the Gophers opened the Big Ten tournament and rallied for a 5-4 victory over host Indiana. They will need to win the tournament to advance to the NCAAs and make this more than a what-might-have-been season.

7. Men’s hockey. Don Lucia’s Gophers were a factor on the national scene again, even with a 0-2 finish to the season in the Big Ten and NCAA tournaments. More than anything, the 2016-17 Gophers seemed to create a foundation for a return to glory with young talent on a 23-12-3 (14-5-1 Big Ten) team. And it’s time for that … the 15th season since the Don won a national title when the schedule opens this October.

6. Wrestling. J Robinson turned the Gophers into a national power as the coach. He was fired after the Xanax distribution and use scandal among his athletes, and assistant Brandon Eggum was put in charge. Eggum is low-key, and that probably was needed to quiet the storm. The Gophers finished seventh in the NCAA meet; good for this program, not great.


5. Soccer. Stefanie Golan was the first coaching hire for former athletic director Norwood Teague in June 2012. She took over a mediocre program and turned it into a winner. Last fall, the Gophers and star senior Simone Kolander won the Big Ten regular-season and tournament titles. They lost an NCAA opener in a shootout to North Carolina State.

4. Football. On the field, Tracy Claeys’ bunch went 8-4 in the regular season. Amid chaos, the Gophers then came up with the most surprising effort of the 2016-17 sports year for any U team with the 17-12 upset and defensive masterpiece vs. Washington State in the Holiday Bowl. University President Eric Kaler and athletic director Mark Coyle were looking on glumly at this noble effort, knowing they were going to fire Claeys.

3. Softball. Former AD Joel Maturi took a flier on 27-year-old Jessica Allister to take over a comatose program seven years ago. Fantastic. The Gophers swept the Big Ten, were 54-3 and rated No. 1 in the nation before being shut out twice by host Alabama in last weekend’s regional.

2. Men’s basketball. If we had this list a year ago, the performance of Richard Pitino’s hoopers would have held down the No. 10 position, and in capital letters. It was a nice turnaround.

1. Volleyball. National Player of the Year in Sarah Wilhite, in a sport with 334 Division I teams. Champions of the toughest conference in the country. A second consecutive Final Four. Hugh McCutcheon took over an outstanding program and has improved upon it, turning volleyball into the most entertaining and vibrant sport on campus.




David Levine -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/25/2017 3:20:36 PM)

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The Minnesota Gophers fantastic season may be over on the field, but Kendyl Lindaman is keeping it going off it. Minnesota’s freshman phenom has been named as one of three finalists for the National Freshman of the Year award! Not only is this a first for the Gophers, it’s a first for the Big Ten!


Big Ten has NEVER had a finalist for "National Freshman of the Year"...




Mr. Ed -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/26/2017 11:02:28 AM)

Alabama on a roll
Took advantage of 2 E's by the pitcher on bunts, won 3-0 last night.

#16 beating #1




kgdabom -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/26/2017 12:14:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Alabama on a roll
Took advantage of 2 E's by the pitcher on bunts, won 3-0 last night.

#16 beating #1

Gee I guess the seedings are wrong.




Mr. Ed -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/27/2017 8:02:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Alabama on a roll
Took advantage of 2 E's by the pitcher on bunts, won 3-0 last night.

#16 beating #1

Gee I guess the seedings are wrong.


In best of 3

Alabama out

Lost game 2 2-0, game 3 2-1

FLA goes to Softball CWS




SoMnFan -> RE: General Gopher Talk (5/31/2017 11:31:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Alabama on a roll
Took advantage of 2 E's by the pitcher on bunts, won 3-0 last night.

#16 beating #1

Gee I guess the seedings are wrong.


In best of 3

Alabama out

Lost game 2 2-0, game 3 2-1

FLA goes to Softball CWS

Hmmmmmmm




kgdabom -> RE: General Gopher Talk (6/1/2017 12:01:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Alabama on a roll
Took advantage of 2 E's by the pitcher on bunts, won 3-0 last night.

#16 beating #1

Gee I guess the seedings are wrong.


In best of 3

Alabama out

Lost game 2 2-0, game 3 2-1

FLA goes to Softball CWS

Hmmmmmmm

Did any of the top 8 lose to a team 9-16? If so seedings were wrong.




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