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David Levine -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/23/2013 10:00:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: JT2

Half court D is nearly as bad as the set offense. It's almost like they never saw a zone before.



Same old ****

See that 1-3-1,no outside threat, don't know how to pass the ball.


@STollackson50
Here are the stats vs the 1-3-1 zone... 5 turnovers, 1-7 from the field. The 1 made shot was a lob to Rodney.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/23/2013 10:01:56 PM)

Add in double figure missed free throws.

Perfect storm. Fall on your face pathetic loss.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/23/2013 10:09:26 PM)

So disappointing. The fall continues.

Peaked with the MSU win. All downhill from there.

Eke out a low seed in the NCAA's and go 1- out at this rate.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/23/2013 10:10:40 PM)

I quit watching it. Got so ticked.
Getting to be like the Vikings. Think they've got something going on, get disappointed.



JT2 -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/23/2013 10:11:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

So disappointing. The fall continues.

Peaked with the MSU win. All downhill from there.

Eke out a low seed in the NCAA's and go 1- out at this rate.




Don't kid yourself, if they don't show serious improvement, they may not even eke out that low seed. NW is not a very good team.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/23/2013 10:13:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

So disappointing. The fall continues.

Peaked with the MSU win. All downhill from there.

Eke out a low seed in the NCAA's and go 1- out at this rate.




Don't kid yourself, if they don't show serious improvement, they may not even eke out that low seed. NW is not a very good team.


That'd be a real splash of reality. Go all the way from top 10 to the NIT



David Levine -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/23/2013 10:13:26 PM)

As bad as we played, we had so many freaking chances down the stretch. And choked them all away.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/23/2013 10:15:01 PM)

How can one of your leaders consistently vanish? The Magician, as you have properly coined him JT, looked completely lost out there when he couldn't dunk it.

Box has him 3-11. Guards shot very badly.

Huge challenge to re-group and give Wisconsin a game.



JT2 -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/23/2013 10:21:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: David Levine

As bad as we played, we had so many freaking chances down the stretch. And choked them all away.


NW was begging us to take it.

I have to say, I really don't think Tubby is getting as much out of these guys as he should.



Lynn G. -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/23/2013 10:52:46 PM)

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Sigh. Another tease.


Bump.

Sigh.



Pete M. -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/23/2013 11:05:47 PM)

Come back with a win Saturday and get your season back together. Let's put this embarrassing loss behind us ASAP.



drew -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/23/2013 11:07:11 PM)

It ticks me off that Tubby never takes any responsibility after the games, always blames it on the players. Then he says the players were pointing fingers at each other during the game. Hmmm, wonder where they may get that from?? Also, Tubby says "it's hard to simulate a 1-3-1 zone in practice". No, really Tubby, it's not. I can come and show you. You put one guy up near halfcourt, a big guy at the FT line, two guys on the wings, and one on the baseline. That'll pretty much cover it. You'd think between having a coaching staff of 5 people, getting embarrassed against this zone for 5 years running, and having superior athletes on every position on the floor we could have come up with something better than that.

That being said, the players were terrible with the exception of Trevor. As you all have already said, way too many careless TO's, terrible shooting from the field and at the line, and just being lazy against the zone. Dribble the gaps, cause double teams and get the damn ball in the middle and cause it to collapse. Or, you could put 3 statues down on the baseline and watch our 2 guards play catch 40 feet from the basket.



SoMnFan -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/23/2013 11:52:58 PM)

Stamp a big SUCKER on my forehead. (for the 912th time)
I've seen good teams lose in Northwestern.
But not when the supposedly good team has just lost two tough games and really needs a win to get back on track.
Awful performance. They handled the ball late like a hot potato. Horrible leadership. Horrible guard play. Horrible poise.
Pre
Ten
Ders



SoMnFan -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/23/2013 11:55:15 PM)

Missing free throws as a team ..... has, does, and always will ........... mean that you are weak mentally.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/24/2013 5:43:02 AM)

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Missing free throws as a team ..... has, does, and always will ........... mean that you are weak mentally.


Andre Hollins was 2 of 9 with six points and seven turnovers. Austin Hollins scored six points and fouled out with 11:47 left in the game. That didn't sit well with Smith, but more than anything, the team's attitude seemed to bother him.

"We have a tendency to just kind of take ourselves out of the game with our attitude about 'They're hitting me' or 'I'm being pushed,'" he said. "We've tried in practice to simulate not calling fouls. I guess we didn't do a good enough job of that."

So if they're getting fouled and not called, that's part of it? Prima donna attitude. Sheesh, there's contact all the time. Man up.



SoMnFan -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/24/2013 5:49:04 AM)

No kidding
That's WHY you play in the Big Ten, pussies .....
I thought early on this year we had figured that out and were using it to our advantage. Silly me.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/24/2013 7:05:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

No kidding
That's WHY you play in the Big Ten, pussies .....
I thought early on this year we had figured that out and were using it to our advantage. Silly me.



Has to be referring to RWilliams, for one. Seemed like a leader earlier in the year. Now this is the second reference to finger pointing I've heard, he was in the first discussion.



JT2 -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/24/2013 7:38:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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Missing free throws as a team ..... has, does, and always will ........... mean that you are weak mentally.


Andre Hollins was 2 of 9 with six points and seven turnovers. Austin Hollins scored six points and fouled out with 11:47 left in the game. That didn't sit well with Smith, but more than anything, the team's attitude seemed to bother him.

"We have a tendency to just kind of take ourselves out of the game with our attitude about 'They're hitting me' or 'I'm being pushed,'" he said. "We've tried in practice to simulate not calling fouls. I guess we didn't do a good enough job of that."

So if they're getting fouled and not called, that's part of it? Prima donna attitude. Sheesh, there's contact all the time. Man up.



Wow. I don't know which is worse, the players having that attitude, or a coach that publicly admits it.

What the hell do they do in practice?


I've been coaching young Somali men in EP for quite a few years. One of the first things I taught them is how physical the game is.
I never call fouls in practice, and I don't allow them to call fouls even in pick-up games. It's a beautiful thing. In the summer, you can go to any of the BB playgrounds in Eden Prairie, and you can identify the guys that I have coached.......they never call fouls. Expect contact.

Last summer, during the Somali tournament in Minneapolis (22 teams from all over the country, two from Canada and one from London) our team was easily the most physical, not intimidated by physical play from bigger men, never complained about officiating and we were the only team in the tournament that no player received a Technical Foul.

My guys would be too embarrassed to complain about somebody holding them or being too physical. Plus, they know I would bench them immediately if they did.



twinsfan -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/24/2013 8:35:44 AM)

That was as pathetic as it gets.

We are so much bigger, so much stronger, so much BETTER. Yet we barely made it a game.



twinsfan -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/24/2013 8:36:40 AM)

Rodney Williams misses more dunks than anyone I've ever seen.



Jim Frenette -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/24/2013 9:37:13 AM)

I was really disappointed in Austin Hollins. With 3 fouls he takes a cheap foul for reaching in on a driving player. Then same thing to get #5. He's been around long enough to know those get called all the time and never stop the player from scoring. If you're going to take a foul, make sure it's a good one where you aren't also scored on.



JT2 -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/26/2013 2:07:11 PM)

This team is so frustrating. Hollins with a great steal, then feels it necessary to highlight reel it and miss an uncontested dunk.



JT2 -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/26/2013 2:22:33 PM)

Dre is almost single handedly keeping us in this one



Pete M. -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/26/2013 2:26:09 PM)

Honestly, some of these guys are the most basketball-awareness-impaired players I've ever seen. Just awful, awful plays.



Pete M. -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/26/2013 2:28:09 PM)

Frankly, Joe Coleman is a cognitively impaired basketball player. So little situational awareness.



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