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Jim Frenette -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/11/2011 11:55:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens Stupid or not there was a restraining order against him that said explicitly that he was not to attempt to contact this woman. He poked her face book page, which is by any definition an attempt at communication. He should have known better. I don't think this merits any suspension, but he should have known better. I'm sorry but I would not have made that comparison and I can't see a judge thinking that far ahead

panndder -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/11/2011 1:17:43 PM)
Reports are he thought the order expired on 1/1. It's easy to cast stones, but put yourself in his Nike basketball shoes. I can guarantee you a few things: he intended no real malice, never thought for a second he was doing something that would land him in trouble, and feels horrible for the bad light he has cast on himself and his team. I just hope this does not complicate his Miami agreement. We've got some lawyers on here: would a misdemeanor count as a violation of parole? Isn't a speeding ticket a misdemeanor?

Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/11/2011 2:03:20 PM)
Strib says the order is thru August. Guess Mbrickwe got all those dates mixed up [:@]

djskillz -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/11/2011 2:45:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens Stupid or not there was a restraining order against him that said explicitly that he was not to attempt to contact this woman. He poked her face book page, which is by any definition an attempt at communication. He should have known better. I don't think this merits any suspension, but he should have known better. Agreed. It's not any different than if he was emailing her, texting her, etc. Same thing. Hell, a lot of people, especially college students, use Facebook as much or more than either of those.

Guest -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/11/2011 2:57:35 PM)
Whether or not he violated the restraining order by a simple poke on facebook, to me the question to be answered is why the restraining order in the first place? Was it from previous action in Miami? I don't know the history or details and am somewhat ignorant on this. But I also know there are too many men who intimidate women, i.e., girlfriends, wives, etc. I don't think restraining orders are declared by a judge simple willy nilly. As such, why the hell did he have a restraining order against him........ Get your life together and then worry about basketball.

panndder -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/11/2011 3:54:20 PM)
From what I have read it was a mutually agreed on order between the girl and Mbakwe/his current (or current at the time) girlfriend together. I don't think it has any affect on the legal aspect (though a judge should certainly look at this differently than an actual threat) but everything I have read suggests this was a mutual agreement. One account did say that she was worried that he might hurt her in light of his charges in Miami, but I see no reason why that should have any basis as it just further stigmatizes the accused without any reasonable basis for concern.

TJSweens -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/11/2011 4:18:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Miles K Was it from previous action in Miami? I don't know the history or details and am somewhat ignorant on this. No, they are unrelated. The story I heard from Rosen is that Mbakwe continuously tried to contact this woman after she made it clear that she didn't want to talk to him anymore. This included grabbing the phone of one of her friends figuring she was sure to answer a call from that number. The woman filed for the restraining order claiming she feared for her safety. Time passed and apparently Mbakwe thought the order had expired after a year and he poked her facebook page with "I hope you are well". The woman immediately reported it to the police and Mbakwe was arrested at his home.

Guest -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/11/2011 5:32:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Miles K Was it from previous action in Miami? I don't know the history or details and am somewhat ignorant on this. No, they are unrelated. The story I heard from Rosen is that Mbakwe continuously tried to contact this woman after she made it clear that she didn't want to talk to him anymore. This included grabbing the phone of one of her friends figuring she was sure to answer a call from that number. The woman filed for the restraining order claiming she feared for her safety. Time passed and apparently Mbakwe thought the order had expired after a year and he poked her facebook page with "I hope you are well". The woman immediately reported it to the police and Mbakwe was arrested at his home. Thanks Tim....... I sure wish that people would learn that repeated no's means no. It appears that the poke on facebook, while violating a restraining order, may not be as grievous as the action that lead to issuing a restraining order in the first place.

Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/11/2011 7:13:30 PM)
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) -- This time, an off-the-court matter for Minnesota hasn't led to the loss of a star player. The Gophers are sticking with leading scorer and rebounder Trevor Mbakwe despite his arrest for allegedly violating a restraining order filed against the junior forward. The university released a statement Tuesday from athletics director Joel Maturi and coach Tubby Smith confirming that Mbakwe is still with the team, describing the action as "a lapse in judgment'' and announcing no punishments. "I believe his actions were well intended, but misguided, and we have made the decision not to suspend him after looking into the matter further,'' Smith said in the statement. "We believe this is the appropriate thing for Trevor and the program at this time. We view this as an educational opportunity for all of our players.'' Smith won't be available for further comment until after Wednesday's practice. The Gophers host eighth-ranked Purdue on Thursday. St. Paul prosecutor Sara Grewing said her office is reviewing Mbakwe's case and will determine whether to bring formal charges in the next day or two. If the decision is made to prosecute the case, Grewing said, Mbakwe faces a Jan. 20 court date. Mbakwe was taken to jail on Monday night on a misdemeanor citation and later released with bail after authorities said he sent a message on Facebook to a former girlfriend who had filed the no-harrasment order in August 2009. The school said Mbakwe had not been in contact with the woman since that date. The university also included in the news release the entire message Mbakwe sent: "I know we haven't talked in forever and trust me I'm not trying to start any drama with nobody in your life or anything. I just wanted to wish u the best with everything and I hope all has been well with you and your family. I am still disappointed how everything played out and I do wish that in the future we could be cool again. Idk how u r going to take this msg hopefully its not bad but I just wanted to wish u a happy new year and send out a congrats for graduating. I've been well I'm finally playin bball again in everything down in miami finally got taken care of thank god. Well idk if u will respond or not but best wishes for 2011.'' Mbakwe leads the Gophers (12-4, 1-3) with 13.4 points and 10.4 rebounds per game. He transferred to Minnesota before last season, but he was not allowed to play while facing a felony battery charge for allegedly punching a woman in the face in Florida when he played for Miami-Dade Community College. The case dragged on for a year, and he eventually entered a pretrial program in August to keep the process from continuing, though the agreement was not considered an admission of guilt. Mbakwe blamed the charge on mistaken identity. Gophers players were unavailable to reporters on Tuesday, but Mbakwe took to Twitter on Tuesday to defend himself shortly before the school announced his playing status would not change. "Boy oh boy this some crazy stuff. I never thought in a million years that me writing an ex of mine a fb msg would cause all this drama,'' Mbakwe tweeted. He continued: "Thanks to every1 who has shown their support to my family and me. I guess some ppl just want their 10 minutes of fame. ... I better be careful though don't want the cops popping up at my door for tweeting now but much love to my support group.'' Mbakwe's Twitter account was taken down soon after his comments. Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/ncaa/01/11/minnesota.trevor.mbakwe.ap/index.html#ixzz1AmNN6lWA

Jeff Jesser -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/12/2011 1:53:09 PM)
Thank Goodness. His crimes against the English language now behind him, perhaps we can try and get a win tomorrow night.

Guest -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/12/2011 2:20:48 PM)
Given his (Mbakwe) tweet on all the fuss, and his apparent failure to grasp the significance of violating a restraining order and ultimately his failure to grasp the significance of have a restraining order issued against him in the first place, I think it is highly likely that more restraining orders are in this young man's future.

panndder -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/12/2011 4:51:25 PM)
It was a mutual no contact order, Miles. You're extrapolating a LOT of judgement from the minuscule amount of information we are privy to. It was stupid not to check for sure when it expired before making contact, but I don't see how that suggests he's some long-term trouble maker.

djskillz -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/12/2011 5:24:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Miles K Given his (Mbakwe) tweet on all the fuss, and his apparent failure to grasp the significance of violating a restraining order and ultimately his failure to grasp the significance of have a restraining order issued against him in the first place, I think it is highly likely that more restraining orders are in this young man's future. I'm pretty much with you, Miles. I like the kid as a player, but I don't think he understands the gravity of this at all. And he's clearly still got some major issues with this girl.

TJSweens -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/12/2011 8:37:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: panndder It was a mutual no contact order, Miles. You're extrapolating a LOT of judgement from the minuscule amount of information we are privy to. It was stupid not to check for sure when it expired before making contact, but I don't see how that suggests he's some long-term trouble maker. Probably the fact that after being arrested and released on bail, he went right to twitter and made disparaging remarks about her before one of Tubby's assistants made him shut his tweet down.

panndder -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/12/2011 10:49:48 PM)
I'm not arguing he's made good decisions or handled this very well, but I don't see any evidence that he's some long-standing threat to this woman or anyone else. I'm going to give the guy, like any accused person in a case that I don't know all possible details of, the benefit of the doubt.

Guest -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/13/2011 1:03:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: panndder I'm not arguing he's made good decisions or handled this very well, but I don't see any evidence that he's some long-standing threat to this woman or anyone else. I'm going to give the guy, like any accused person in a case that I don't know all possible details of, the benefit of the doubt. If the post Tim made regarding Rosen's explanation for the basis for the restraining order is true, then it is likely, (based on the Tweet that he made before Tubby or the assistants cut him off at his knees), that he will continue to display this behavior to women. Men that do this usually continue to do it until they are forced to learn otherwise. Guys that treat women badly continue to do so. If the restraining order was truly a mutual agreement (which I cannot understand nor can I think of a scenario that would lead to a mutual agreed upon restraining order such that both parties are to have no contact with the other..........other than a scenario where his present girlfriend was upset/jealous with his repeated attempts to contact this girl and the mutual agreement involves all three parties.....and if so, his present girlfriend should have simply dumped his sorry ass......), then it is likely it, the restraining order, wasn't driven because of bad behavior on his part. I know I am reading way too much into this but men still don't get it that no means no and some women and men don't get it that unless there is a marriage, there is no legal binding of the couple. And if one in the relationship starts to stray, dump the sorry person.

panndder -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/13/2011 6:00:29 PM)
My understanding is that the initial order was requested by the woman, but as it was set to expire Mbakwe and his current girlfriend sought to extend it due to odd behavior on the part of this woman. Again, none of us know the entire story. No means no, but for him to think he can smooth things over with the woman (assuming things were not flat out horrible, I'm envisioning more of a tense breakup between 18-19 year olds) is not completely out of left field. Some people have a personality where they want to make everyone happy, and it can have destructive results for them. BEAT PURDUE.

David Levine -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/13/2011 7:59:22 PM)
BIG WIN! We really needed that!

Lynn G. -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/13/2011 9:39:35 PM)
I was watching something else but happened to turn to the game with ten seconds left on the clock. :o) It has always been my contention that in basketball you really only need to watch the last minute because it seems like most of them come down to those final seconds anyway. I caught the final seconds and enjoyed the cheers of the crowd. Good job Gophers!

djskillz -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/13/2011 11:10:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lynn G. I was watching something else but happened to turn to the game with ten seconds left on the clock. :o) It has always been my contention that in basketball you really only need to watch the last minute because it seems like most of them come down to those final seconds anyway. I caught the final seconds and enjoyed the cheers of the crowd. Good job Gophers! No way! You could say that same thing in football too. Or just about any sport. It's such an amazing sport. Watch the whole game Lynn!

djskillz -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/13/2011 11:12:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine BIG WIN! We really needed that! Huge win. They played hard tonight, and the place was rockin'. The Gophers really need some more shooters. Hoffarber is the only one that can really shoot. Williams is a hell of an athlete, but has an extremely ugly jumpshot. And I lost track of how many times Nolan could have had a fairly open long-range jumper but passed on it because he doesn't trust himself enough to make it. Regardless, great win. Especially when JaJuan Johnson was making everything for a big stretch of the game.

GopherFan34 -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/14/2011 7:33:11 AM)
That was a fun game to watch. Tuby finally drew up some plays for hoffarber. This team needs him to do this every game, as there is no one else. Nolan and Sampson did have a couple of big buckets at the end though. Johnson only had one bucket in the last ten minutes of the game. I think the Gophers big men finally wore him down.

Phil Riewer -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/14/2011 7:39:45 AM)
Rodney has the ability but gets Corey Brewer disease and gets a little wild...I think Collins or Armelin will cover just fine for Joseph.....Tubby has to develop both of them as they both are very talented....

Lynn G. -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/14/2011 8:11:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz quote: ORIGINAL: Lynn G. I was watching something else but happened to turn to the game with ten seconds left on the clock. :o) It has always been my contention that in basketball you really only need to watch the last minute because it seems like most of them come down to those final seconds anyway. I caught the final seconds and enjoyed the cheers of the crowd. Good job Gophers! No way! You could say that same thing in football too. Or just about any sport. It's such an amazing sport. Watch the whole game Lynn! Oh I do when I can. But it seems like most games are close down to the end anyway.

Jeff Jesser -> RE: Gopher Basketball (Mens) (1/14/2011 9:22:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djskillz quote: ORIGINAL: David Levine BIG WIN! We really needed that! Huge win. They played hard tonight, and the place was rockin'. The Gophers really need some more shooters. Hoffarber is the only one that can really shoot. Williams is a hell of an athlete, but has an extremely ugly jumpshot. And I lost track of how many times Nolan could have had a fairly open long-range jumper but passed on it because he doesn't trust himself enough to make it. Regardless, great win. Especially when JaJuan Johnson was making everything for a big stretch of the game. Wide open 3 in the first half and he aired it [&o]

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