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TJSweens -> RE: Gopher Football (7/30/2011 10:43:30 PM)

Pirsig is a huge commit although I am getting conflicting stories on how high he is rated. The kid is just a monster. Lemmings thinks if Persig has a good work ethic he is a sure NFL player. Now if Kill can hold onto Andre McDonald despite Ohio State's pursuit he will have done the best job of nailing down the in state talent in decades.




SoMnFan -> RE: Gopher Football (7/31/2011 11:17:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Nice.  Will be cool watching him this year.  I don't know why but I've not felt this positive about Gopher Football in a while. 


Wouldn't it be great ... if Gopher football is the team/sport/org ... that turns this pathetic streak of losing (in this state) ...around for us?
I'd love it.




twinsfan -> RE: Gopher Football (8/4/2011 2:15:55 PM)

Inspiring article on Jerry Kill from the front page of CBSsportsline today:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15396073/count-on-hardened-kill-to-get-gophers-out-of-their-hole




TJSweens -> RE: Gopher Football (8/5/2011 8:29:07 AM)

According to the St. Paul papaer, Marquis Gray is 240lbs and only 8% body fat (Bryant McKinnie makes up the other 92%). Physically this guy is a monster. If he is adept at the mental side of the game the Gophers will have something special.




Jeff Jesser -> RE: Gopher Football (8/5/2011 11:36:50 AM)

I read an article today that says he's already got the best grasp of the offense of anyone.  Could be a fun year.  




Dave E -> RE: Gopher Football (8/5/2011 2:27:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Pretty incredible considering that Brewster was the "man" when it came to recruiting.   I loved is initial passion for the job but it's becoming pretty clear that he was a used car salesman.   


I was jacked after Brewster's first press conference. It was a pleasant change from Mason's constant complaining about how you can't win here to someone who was actually positive. Unfortunately, everything was downhill from there. Unfortunately, by day two in started becoming clear that he was full of shit.

No concerns with Kill there, and he's already locking up MN talent that Brewster claimed he would get but didn't.

Great start. Let's hope it keeps building. Not expecting a Rose Bowl this year, but if we can at least win a few good games and at let Wisconsin know we're alive, I'll be happy.




Dave E -> RE: Gopher Football (8/5/2011 2:27:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

I read an article today that says he's already got the best grasp of the offense of anyone.  Could be a fun year.  


So good to hear. Last year I was convinced his talent would absolutely be wasted.




SoMnFan -> RE: Gopher Football (8/5/2011 11:54:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeff Jesser

Pretty incredible considering that Brewster was the "man" when it came to recruiting.   I loved is initial passion for the job but it's becoming pretty clear that he was a used car salesman.   


I was jacked after Brewster's first press conference. It was a pleasant change from Mason's constant complaining about how you can't win here to someone who was actually positive. Unfortunately, everything was downhill from there. Unfortunately, by day two in started becoming clear that he was full of shit.

No concerns with Kill there, and he's already locking up MN talent that Brewster claimed he would get but didn't.

Great start. Let's hope it keeps building. Not expecting a Rose Bowl this year, but if we can at least win a few good games and at let Wisconsin know we're alive, I'll be happy.


Great post.
Would have written it earlier if I had talent.
I bought the same crap from Punky. But caught on pretty fast.
Kill is not that kind.
As you say ... proving we will not roll over for anyone (especially with Nebraska joining he fray) is huge ....




SoMnFan -> RE: Gopher Football (8/6/2011 10:35:24 PM)

Anyone have Strib Insider Access?
Would like to see the Kill story they are running Sunday.




Jim Frenette -> RE: Gopher Football (8/7/2011 10:04:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Anyone have Strib Insider Access?
Would like to see the Kill story they are running Sunday.


That's 1st time that I've seen premium from them




David Levine -> RE: Gopher Football (8/7/2011 11:01:48 AM)

Newspaper sales must be way down.




Lynn G. -> RE: Gopher Football (8/7/2011 12:11:12 PM)

Yep - just run up to the corner store and pick up the Sunday paper. It must cost less than what you'd pay to read it online, right?




Karl H -> Gopher Football (8/7/2011 3:38:13 PM)

One day to go til things begin!  Any predictions on the season?

09/03/11 at USC
09/10/11 vs. New Mexico State
09/17/11 vs. Miami (Oh)
09/24/11 vs. North Dakota State
10/01/11 at Michigan
10/08/11 at Purdue
10/22/11 vs. Nebraska
10/29/11 vs. Iowa
11/05/11 at Michigan State
11/12/11 vs. Wisconsin
11/19/11 at Northwestern
11/26/11 vs. Illinois

I think we beat about half of those teams....give or take.

I'll predict 5 wins. 




SoMnFan -> RE: Gopher Football (8/7/2011 7:34:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lynn G.

Yep - just run up to the corner store and pick up the Sunday paper. It must cost less than what you'd pay to read it online, right?


The corner store here is 17 miles away, across a desert, a mountain pass, and a minefield.
It'd be easier for me if you got Insider Access and printed it out for me. [sm=xp.gif]


(lucky for me, my relief guy on shift brought one in and left it here tonight, so there ......) [&:][&:]




SoMnFan -> RE: Gopher Football (8/7/2011 7:38:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl H

One day to go til things begin!  Any predictions on the season?

09/03/11 at USC
09/10/11 vs. New Mexico State
09/17/11 vs. Miami (Oh)
09/24/11 vs. North Dakota State
10/01/11 at Michigan
10/08/11 at Purdue
10/22/11 vs. Nebraska
10/29/11 vs. Iowa
11/05/11 at Michigan State
11/12/11 vs. Wisconsin
11/19/11 at Northwestern
11/26/11 vs. Illinois

I think we beat about half of those teams....give or take.

I'll predict 5 wins. 


.500 would be a very good season, looking at it right now, and knowing where we are.
I'd love to see better than that, but .500 would be a very solid showing imo.
At least we seem to get half the tough ones at home (where we HAVE to establish some advantage)
Thats been a huge disappointment to me .... I think we have a huge student base BEGGING for Gopher football to be pertinent again.
Felt so bad for those kids that came painted up the last couple years (many of them, I knew) ..... they left that stadium totally embarassed most times.
This town is itching to get behind a program. Hopefully this is the one that decides to step up and snatch the opportunity.




SoMnFan -> RE: Gopher Football (8/7/2011 9:33:16 PM)

Wow [:-]
That Kill piece is worth buying the paper. (or at least reading it after someone else buys it)
Great stuff.
Straight shooter. Great stuff, mostly about why he is like he is. Molded by one hell of a tough Dad.
Think we got a good one here.
Love the college-years pic of Jerry, pretty funny stuff.




twinsfan -> RE: Gopher Football (8/8/2011 11:41:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl H

One day to go til things begin!  Any predictions on the season?

09/03/11 at USC
09/10/11 vs. New Mexico State
09/17/11 vs. Miami (Oh)
09/24/11 vs. North Dakota State
10/01/11 at Michigan
10/08/11 at Purdue
10/22/11 vs. Nebraska
10/29/11 vs. Iowa
11/05/11 at Michigan State
11/12/11 vs. Wisconsin
11/19/11 at Northwestern
11/26/11 vs. Illinois

I think we beat about half of those teams....give or take.

I'll predict 5 wins. 

I'll say 4-8. Should start 3-1 with that non-conference schedule. Then I think they lose the rest of the way, but somehow win the last game against Illinois.




Corleone -> RE: Gopher Football (8/8/2011 1:29:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Karl H

One day to go til things begin!  Any predictions on the season?

09/03/11 at USC
09/10/11 vs. New Mexico State
09/17/11 vs. Miami (Oh)
09/24/11 vs. North Dakota State
10/01/11 at Michigan
10/08/11 at Purdue
10/22/11 vs. Nebraska
10/29/11 vs. Iowa
11/05/11 at Michigan State
11/12/11 vs. Wisconsin
11/19/11 at Northwestern
11/26/11 vs. Illinois

I think we beat about half of those teams....give or take.

I'll predict 5 wins. 

I'll say 4-8. Should start 3-1 with that non-conference schedule. Then I think they lose the rest of the way, but somehow win the last game against Illinois.


Should win: 3 non-conference home games, vs. Illinois
Could win: at Michigan, at Purdue, vs. Iowa, at Northwestern
Won't win: at USC, vs. Nebraska, at Michigan St, vs. Wisconsin

If I had to guess, I'd say 5-7. Although they could potentially win 7 or 8 if they can steal one of those first two road games in conference (both eminently winnable) and give them some positive momentum, and if Gray turns out to be the real deal.

Ultimately, any bowl appearance this year would be a successful season. How ironic would it be if they wound up playing Northern Illinois in the Motor City Bowl?




Jim Frenette -> RE: Gopher Football (8/8/2011 3:11:44 PM)

What I like is that during practice most teams keep rotaing teams while Kill plans on all 3 strings running plays simultaneously which gives them all many more reps




Pete M. -> RE: Gopher Football (8/8/2011 3:18:08 PM)

I think 5 wins is definitely doable. I'd be very happy with 6, and downright thrilled with anything over that. 4 wins and under and I'd be at least a little disappointed. A lot of my expectation will be based on the first game of the year, though. I really don't know what to expect.




Corleone -> RE: Gopher Football (8/8/2011 3:56:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Pete M.

I think 5 wins is definitely doable. I'd be very happy with 6, and downright thrilled with anything over that. 4 wins and under and I'd be at least a little disappointed. A lot of my expectation will be based on the first game of the year, though. I really don't know what to expect.


Even though USC is a little down, I will be flat out shocked if they are competitive in that game. 38-10 or so seems about right.

We'll see.




TJSweens -> RE: Gopher Football (8/8/2011 4:10:12 PM)

I expect them to be competative against USC. I expect 3 non conference wins and I expect 4 conference wins for a total of 7 and a minor bowl game.




Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Football (8/9/2011 9:02:56 AM)

Jerry Kill wanted his players to meet a special visitor who stopped by to see the new Gophers football coach one day during spring practice.
Kill had struck up a friendship with a 9-year-old girl who is battling cancer. She has his cell phone number, he keeps track of her progress. Kill took the girl around the football complex, introducing her to his players.
He gathered a group of three or four players afterward for a little heart-to-heart chat. They hadn't bought into the new program fully yet, weren't on board with all their responsibilities. Kill hit them between the eyes with a message.
"I pulled them aside and said, 'Hey, do you know what this little girl is battling?' Kill recalled. "'Do you see her smile and see how positive she is and you're out here moping around and you can't get your butt to class and do what you're supposed to? Shame on you.'"
This is Jerry Kill in a nutshell. Direct, to the point, always willing to deliver tough love when needed. He cares about his players, but he also holds them accountable. If you stray, you could find yourself wearing a shirt that reads "I let my teammates down" in pink letters. Or scooping up horse manure in a barn.
This is exactly what the Gophers football program needs at this moment. Instead of hot air and pie-in-the-sky promises, the Gophers need reality and a stern hand. Maybe even a (figurative) kick in the pants at times.
Discipline is at the core of Kill's being. It's how he intends to build a foundation for future success, a blueprint he employed at previous stops.
Make no mistake, Kill must change the culture of a program that admittedly has certain inherent challenges but too often operates with a palpable defeatist attitude borne of years of losing.
The Gophers never will have enough talent to cut corners. They have to win by being disciplined and tough-minded.
Change won't happen overnight, and attrition will be part of the process. But Kill wants his players to know that it's not OK to skip class, it's not OK to arrive late to study hall, it's not OK to jump offsides on third-and-2. If his players don't believe those things are interrelated, they will continue down the same path they're on.
"I can say right now players are definitely scared of getting in trouble," quarterback MarQueis Gray said.
That's a start. Kill doesn't like using the word punishment, though. He prefers to call it an "educational experience." Which is a polite way of saying, ''You'll learn the hard way that there are consequences for your actions."
Kill hatched an idea for another educational experience while having lunch with Hennepin County Sheriff Rich Stanek. The two created a community service program this summer for players who fell short of their responsibilities, either academically or off campus.
The players were required to perform at least four hours of labor at the Three Rivers Park District in Medina on Saturday mornings. Their work included cleaning barns of police horses that patrol the parks. They also pulled weeds from a community garden that supplies vegetables to homeless shelters and food shelves.
"We spend our Saturday mornings doing some old-fashioned hard labor," Stanek said.
Both Kill and Stanek note that few players required a second visit. Several of them got to see a horse in person for the first time in their life so, hey, it was an educational experience.
Amazingly, some fans have complained in e-mails that Kill is too hard on his players, which is utterly ridiculous. This isn't Pop Warner. A program trying to find its way can't be half-committed. You either are, or you're not.
Junior linebacker Mike Rallis said teammates had numerous conversations during the coaching search about what kind of coach they wanted and needed. They kept coming to the same conclusion.
"It was a general consensus that we needed someone who's going to provide some discipline for us," he said.
Well, they got him. Now it's up to them to take advantage. Kill's tenure at Minnesota ultimately will be judged on wins and losses and not how many barns his players clean. But those two things are not mutually exclusive.
"My job is to take an 18-year-old and make him a better man by the time he's 22," Kill said. "If we win some games, that's great. But more importantly to me, they're not going to put my wins and losses on my tombstone. But if I can teach them to do the right things, we'll win a lot of games. Plus, when you go to the pearly gates someday, you're put on Earth to help people. I'm educating kids. It's not being mean or tough. I'm just educating them the way that I think they need to understand the importance of doing the right things."









twinsfan -> RE: Gopher Football (8/9/2011 10:57:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pete M.

I think 5 wins is definitely doable. I'd be very happy with 6, and downright thrilled with anything over that. 4 wins and under and I'd be at least a little disappointed. A lot of my expectation will be based on the first game of the year, though. I really don't know what to expect.

I think I'm being a realist. I don't see any Big 10 wins outside of Illinois. And considering they would be on a huge losing streak going into that game, will they have the fire and desire to even be competitive with Illinois in the final game of the season? I hope I'm wrong. But that schedule is tough. I think 3-4 wins is a lot more realistic than 5-6.




twinsfan -> RE: Gopher Football (8/9/2011 10:58:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

I expect them to be competative against USC. I expect 3 non conference wins and I expect 4 conference wins for a total of 7 and a minor bowl game.

You guys are setting Kill up to fail with those types of expectations. Tell me the 4 conference games they will win.




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