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Phil Riewer -> RE: Gopher Football (11/11/2019 3:59:24 PM)

From Gopher Hole:

Of all the P5 teams with 0 or 1 loss there have been:
36 victories against teams above .500
13 victories against other ranked teams

Here is how those victories rank:
LSU over #4 Alabama
Minnesota over #9 Penn State
LSU over #11 Florida
Georgia over #11 Florida
Penn State over #14 Michigan
Ohio State over #15 Wisconsin
Georgia over #16 Notre Dame
Ohio State over #17 Cincinnati
LSU over #22 Texas
OU over #22 Texas
Penn State over #23 Iowa
Ohio State over #24 Indiana
Baylor over #25 Okie State

Number of victories over teams above .500:
LSU - 6
Ohio State - 5
Oregon - 4
Utah - 4
Minnesota - 3
Baylor - 3
Penn State - 3
Georgia - 3
Oklahoma - 2
Alabama - 2
Clemson - 1

Our resume is just as good as any team on this list except for LSU and Ohio State.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Football (11/11/2019 5:48:41 PM)

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He can also enter the NFL draft this year. He is 21, so I wouldn't be surprised if he went.


After all the injuries---he should.



And the year he's having?

If he doesn't it will be a shock.



Mr. Ed -> RE: Gopher Football (11/11/2019 5:52:13 PM)

Is something to even be in this conversation.

JUST WIN BABY


https://www.si.com/college/2019/11/11/college-football-playoff-alabama-georgia-oregon



Karl Juhnke -> RE: Gopher Football (11/11/2019 7:01:17 PM)

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He can also enter the NFL draft this year. He is 21, so I wouldn't be surprised if he went.


After all the injuries---he should.



And the year he's having?

If he doesn't it will be a shock.


First round draft pick I’d think, no? He’d have to be the just about the top safety on the board.



kgdabom -> RE: Gopher Football (11/11/2019 7:09:21 PM)

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OK, we're starting to stack up a lot of carts in front of the horse now, but on a hypothetical level, the Gophers playing in a CFP bowl game is better than being in the Rose Bowl this year.

1. It means the Gophers won the Big Ten title. They have the longest current streak of not winning the Big Ten and it's not even close.

2. It means the Gophers went from being unranked to one if the top 4 teams in the nation.

3. The first 2 points make the 3rd point of it being a bigger tool in recruiting.

You been drinking?

We are talking what we prefer. Not saying it is likely at all. Isn't it better going into the CFP undefeated with a win over oSU than with a loss or two going into the Rose Bowl?

I'm talking about a realistic goal.

Whatever. You said you would prefer going to the Rose Bowl over going to the CFP. The question was never what was most likely to happen. It was about preference. You can prefer to go to the lesser bowl game. I prefer playing for the national title.



Karl Juhnke -> RE: Gopher Football (11/11/2019 7:11:22 PM)

Oops wrong thread



kgdabom -> RE: Gopher Football (11/11/2019 7:14:33 PM)

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I had to go back and check if we won the natty championship while I was sleeping
We’re good
We’re rolling
Stop telling a guy like me how to be a fan of Gopher football, please
I’ve seen it all. Up close
No ones loving this more than me
No ones bought in more than me
But to think we’re suddenly Alabama looks really weird on some of you.
Relax and enjoy this UNPRECEDENTED success.
There are still young men in this team capable of disappointing us tomorrow
Off the box.
Carry on.

Like I said, a lot of carts are getting stacked in front of the horse today.

We just came off a win against an undefeated top 5 team. We are 9-0 ranked 7 in the nation. What are we supposed to be setting our sights on? Holding on for the Big 10 west title and then getting steamrolled by oSU? No an undefeated 7th ranked team should be setting their sights on an NCAA title. You can't win it if you don't believe you can win it. Of course only 1 team will end up the champ. It's unlikely.



bstinger -> RE: Gopher Football (11/11/2019 8:36:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

OK, we're starting to stack up a lot of carts in front of the horse now, but on a hypothetical level, the Gophers playing in a CFP bowl game is better than being in the Rose Bowl this year.

1. It means the Gophers won the Big Ten title. They have the longest current streak of not winning the Big Ten and it's not even close.

2. It means the Gophers went from being unranked to one if the top 4 teams in the nation.

3. The first 2 points make the 3rd point of it being a bigger tool in recruiting.

You been drinking?

We are talking what we prefer. Not saying it is likely at all. Isn't it better going into the CFP undefeated with a win over oSU than with a loss or two going into the Rose Bowl?

I'm talking about a realistic goal.

Whatever. You said you would prefer going to the Rose Bowl over going to the CFP. The question was never what was most likely to happen. It was about preference. You can prefer to go to the lesser bowl game. I prefer playing for the national title.

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You're dreaming.

It's fairly realistic to think we go undefeated into the B10 title game. It will take a miracle to win that against OSU. If by chance we get PSU, we have a very good chance at beating them. If we do go to CFP we'll likely get LSU or Clemson and get killed. I'd rather not have this season end getting killed. Give me a solid shot at a Rose Bowl win any day of the year and twice on Jan 1, 2020.



kgdabom -> RE: Gopher Football (11/11/2019 10:00:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

OK, we're starting to stack up a lot of carts in front of the horse now, but on a hypothetical level, the Gophers playing in a CFP bowl game is better than being in the Rose Bowl this year.

1. It means the Gophers won the Big Ten title. They have the longest current streak of not winning the Big Ten and it's not even close.

2. It means the Gophers went from being unranked to one if the top 4 teams in the nation.

3. The first 2 points make the 3rd point of it being a bigger tool in recruiting.

You been drinking?

We are talking what we prefer. Not saying it is likely at all. Isn't it better going into the CFP undefeated with a win over oSU than with a loss or two going into the Rose Bowl?

I'm talking about a realistic goal.

Whatever. You said you would prefer going to the Rose Bowl over going to the CFP. The question was never what was most likely to happen. It was about preference. You can prefer to go to the lesser bowl game. I prefer playing for the national title.

[&o]
You're dreaming.

It's fairly realistic to think we go undefeated into the B10 title game. It will take a miracle to win that against OSU. If by chance we get PSU, we have a very good chance at beating them. If we do go to CFP we'll likely get LSU or Clemson and get killed. I'd rather not have this season end getting killed. Give me a solid shot at a Rose Bowl win any day of the year and twice on Jan 1, 2020.

Once again realistic, likely, dreaming whatever have nothing to do with it. We were discussing preference. I prefer that we go undefeated. I prefer that we beat oSU in the big ten title game. I prefer that we go to the CFP and I prefer we win the national title.



bstinger -> RE: Gopher Football (11/11/2019 10:13:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

OK, we're starting to stack up a lot of carts in front of the horse now, but on a hypothetical level, the Gophers playing in a CFP bowl game is better than being in the Rose Bowl this year.

1. It means the Gophers won the Big Ten title. They have the longest current streak of not winning the Big Ten and it's not even close.

2. It means the Gophers went from being unranked to one if the top 4 teams in the nation.

3. The first 2 points make the 3rd point of it being a bigger tool in recruiting.

You been drinking?

We are talking what we prefer. Not saying it is likely at all. Isn't it better going into the CFP undefeated with a win over oSU than with a loss or two going into the Rose Bowl?

I'm talking about a realistic goal.

Whatever. You said you would prefer going to the Rose Bowl over going to the CFP. The question was never what was most likely to happen. It was about preference. You can prefer to go to the lesser bowl game. I prefer playing for the national title.

[&o]
You're dreaming.

It's fairly realistic to think we go undefeated into the B10 title game. It will take a miracle to win that against OSU. If by chance we get PSU, we have a very good chance at beating them. If we do go to CFP we'll likely get LSU or Clemson and get killed. I'd rather not have this season end getting killed. Give me a solid shot at a Rose Bowl win any day of the year and twice on Jan 1, 2020.

Once again realistic, likely, dreaming whatever have nothing to do with it. We were discussing preference. I prefer that we go undefeated. I prefer that we beat oSU in the big ten title game. I prefer that we go to the CFP and I prefer we win the national title.

I prefer to defalcate gold, but it isn't going to happen.



kgdabom -> RE: Gopher Football (11/12/2019 12:24:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: kgdabom

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ORIGINAL: bstinger

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ORIGINAL: TJSweens

OK, we're starting to stack up a lot of carts in front of the horse now, but on a hypothetical level, the Gophers playing in a CFP bowl game is better than being in the Rose Bowl this year.

1. It means the Gophers won the Big Ten title. They have the longest current streak of not winning the Big Ten and it's not even close.

2. It means the Gophers went from being unranked to one if the top 4 teams in the nation.

3. The first 2 points make the 3rd point of it being a bigger tool in recruiting.

You been drinking?

We are talking what we prefer. Not saying it is likely at all. Isn't it better going into the CFP undefeated with a win over oSU than with a loss or two going into the Rose Bowl?

I'm talking about a realistic goal.

Whatever. You said you would prefer going to the Rose Bowl over going to the CFP. The question was never what was most likely to happen. It was about preference. You can prefer to go to the lesser bowl game. I prefer playing for the national title.

[&o]
You're dreaming.

It's fairly realistic to think we go undefeated into the B10 title game. It will take a miracle to win that against OSU. If by chance we get PSU, we have a very good chance at beating them. If we do go to CFP we'll likely get LSU or Clemson and get killed. I'd rather not have this season end getting killed. Give me a solid shot at a Rose Bowl win any day of the year and twice on Jan 1, 2020.

Once again realistic, likely, dreaming whatever have nothing to do with it. We were discussing preference. I prefer that we go undefeated. I prefer that we beat oSU in the big ten title game. I prefer that we go to the CFP and I prefer we win the national title.

I prefer to defalcate gold, but it isn't going to happen.

You said you preferred the rose bowl to the CFP. We weren't talking about defecating gold. I'm letting it go at that.



Phil Riewer -> RE: Gopher Football (11/12/2019 7:18:53 AM)

I don't care what happens the next three weeks, it has been a great year. If someone beats us they will have to play their best game as we have improved every game....I haven't been able to say that about a Gopher Football team in a long time.



SoMnFan -> RE: Gopher Football (11/12/2019 7:35:29 AM)

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I don't care what happens the next three weeks, it has been a great year. If someone beats us they will have to play their best game as we have improved every game....I haven't been able to say that about a Gopher Football team in a long time.

Well put, simply put.
We've made incredible strides.
Very cool to see the increased support, for a program that has been damn-near dead at times.
Really appreciate the hard work this coaching staff has put into turning this thing around.
I think we all knew it could be special, if it ever happened.



SoMnFan -> RE: Gopher Football (11/12/2019 7:37:40 AM)

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Also I count only 11 Seniors on the roster: Johnson, Smith, Brooks, Martin, Barber, Coughlin.....

Albeit pretty damn good (important) ones ….



Phil Riewer -> RE: Gopher Football (11/12/2019 7:40:10 AM)

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Also I count only 11 Seniors on the roster: Johnson, Smith, Brooks, Martin, Barber, Coughlin.....

Albeit pretty damn good (important) ones ….


True...I am most worried about the LB group but I think we have replacements. Now if Winfield declares---he would be the toughest one next to Martin.



Phil Riewer -> RE: Gopher Football (11/12/2019 7:42:11 AM)

I recall all those little battles between Iowa's coaching staff and ours on a few players.....going to be another interesting game Saturday.



SoMnFan -> RE: Gopher Football (11/12/2019 8:12:14 AM)

Those LBers have been the pivot point for me on this roster
The first position group, imo, that have taken no shit from anyone, ever.
Even a couple years ago, in defeats, these guys were physically manhandling people.
You can feel FB teams change, when they get those types. The kids who WANT to inflict punishment, especially when games aren't going well.
Its easy to be a bad ass when you win every game. When you go thru rough times like those kids did, and still want to dish out punishment, then you've got a core to build around.
The old … mobile, agile, hostile ….. adage pertains to these guys.



Phil Riewer -> RE: Gopher Football (11/12/2019 8:26:12 AM)

I like how physical our oline and defense are....our defense use to get pushed around all game against the good teams. Facing these big guys in practice every day probably helps.

One of the biggest keys to improving the Oline size....our defense is used to playing against that size every day.



TJSweens -> RE: Gopher Football (11/12/2019 8:28:48 AM)

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I recall all those little battles between Iowa's coaching staff and ours on a few players.....going to be another interesting game Saturday.

Mainly I remember son of Kirk being a pissy little bitch every time Fleck snatched a recruit they were after. Iowa and Wisconsin have gotten used to having the pick of all overlapping recruiting areas with the Gophers. All of the sudden, Fleck is taking that away from them and they don't like it.



TJSweens -> RE: Gopher Football (11/12/2019 8:31:21 AM)

Speaking of coaches who bad mouthed Fleck in the past, I noticed Jerry Kill and Tracy Claeys aren't running their mouths anymore. I especially got a good out of Claeys assertion that the Gophers would have been better under him than they were in Fleck's first year because he would have started Trent Green at QB.



Phil Riewer -> RE: Gopher Football (11/12/2019 9:00:40 AM)

You mean Seth Green :)



Phil Riewer -> RE: Gopher Football (11/12/2019 9:02:58 AM)

The one thing Kill and Claeys couldn't compete was recruiting...no way they get Dunlap, Faala, Bateman and many others.



SoMnFan -> RE: Gopher Football (11/12/2019 9:44:59 AM)

Btw ... re Seth Green

Always had my doubts about Wildcat packages … but that one has worked wonders for us.
Best red-zone offense in CFB
He's an incredible talent, to have in our back pocket when needed.
And even if something happens to mini-Fleck, we should be in good hands at QB.

Love the options he creates for us at the goal line.
We haven't even thrown out of it yet this year. [:-]



TJSweens -> RE: Gopher Football (11/12/2019 9:57:01 AM)

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Btw ... re Seth Green

Always had my doubts about Wildcat packages … but that one has worked wonders for us.
Best red-zone offense in CFB
He's an incredible talent, to have in our back pocket when needed.
And even if something happens to mini-Fleck, we should be in good hands at QB.

Love the options he creates for us at the goal line.
We haven't even thrown out of it yet this year. [:-]

That was a huge factor in beating Penn State. We outplayed them in the red zone. We scored a TD every time in the red zone, while the defense held them to a FG and then got an interception.



Phil Riewer -> RE: Gopher Football (11/12/2019 9:59:30 AM)

What I would like to see once is a handoff to a running back from Green and he sprints right or left and the rb throw to him (out of the wildcat).



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