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So.Mn.Fan -> RE: NFL News (12/14/2008 11:12:58 AM)

And Jimmy K's usually too busy "bulking up" to get jealous.  [&:]
He didn;t even realize Gus was in until Week 11 




Lynn G. -> RE: NFL News (12/14/2008 11:17:52 AM)

Owens sounds paranoid and needy.

And while I'm at it ...

... immature, selfish, greedy, delusional, self-important, and self-pitying.




Duane Sampson -> RE: NFL News (12/14/2008 11:22:14 AM)

But he's a funny dude. [:D]




Duane Sampson -> RE: NFL News (12/14/2008 11:22:52 AM)

I still love him ripping down the "TO has BO" sign after he scored. [&:]




Lynn G. -> RE: NFL News (12/14/2008 11:30:32 AM)

Oh yeah - I would definitely concede that he's entertaining. But it's the kind of entertaining that is funny when he's on another team. If he was on our team I wouldn't think his childishness was so funny,




David Levine -> RE: NFL News (12/14/2008 11:42:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Duane Sampson

I think Gus and Tahi are making up their own plays too. [&:]


It would make me feel better about Childress if Gus and Tahi were setting up those plays behind his back...




So.Mn.Fan -> RE: NFL News (12/14/2008 12:38:56 PM)

Good stuff from Jemele Hill (imo) on the TO/Romeo saga ...

Let's start with the obvious: Terrell Owens is a fool.


Blowing up locker rooms is second nature to Owens, so it was only a matter of time before there was carnage in Dallas.


But here's the real question: Why hasn't anyone in the Dallas locker room slapped the Sharpie out of him?


One thing T.O. does better than anyone is expose the real truth about an organization. His reported jealousy of Tony Romo's relationship with friend and leading receiver Jason Witten proves the Cowboys have a weak locker room; a franchise quarterback who's too nice; and pandering, paralyzed, ineffective management.


There is one commonality when T.O. begins to mount a coup. It seems no one ever has the gumption to step up, grab T.O and say "Not here, not now, not ever."


I'm not advocating violence, of course. I'm advocating leadership and good old-fashioned locker-room policing, which is usually a key component of most championship-caliber teams.


In strong locker rooms, certain things just aren't permitted, and it's clear that Dallas' locker room couldn't withstand T.O.'s latest assault because not one player seems willing to put an end to T.O.'s stupidity.


I understand Romo is trying to be professional and just let T.O. self-destruct, but as the Cowboys' franchise guy, it's on him to approach T.O. man-to-man and work this out. Several Cowboys have talked about trying to bring T.O. and Romo together, but isn't that Romo's job?


At the very least, Romo needs to say this to his troublesome receiver: "I may not be the best quarterback in the league, but it's a lot harder to find one of me than one of you. Look at my age. Look at my contract. I will outlast you in Dallas. So let's just cut the (expletive), win some games and break some records."

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I'm not blaming Romo, but I'm not convinced he can win important games in Dallas as long as T.O. is his primary receiver. Romo already has a deserved reputation for not being able to deliver in December and January, and now he has the added pressure of trying to make T.O. happy on every single play. What quarterback could win under those circumstances? If I were Romo, I'd be diagramming secret plays with Witten, too.


Also, T.O.'s history strongly suggests Romo's passive-aggressive approach isn't going to work. Owens is the NFL version of Effie White from "Dreamgirls," who in the movie was a self-absorbed diva whose constant complaints eventually got her booted out of her singing group.


It takes strong personalities, great leadership and assured people to deal with the Effies and T.O.s of the world. T.O. would have never survived on those dynamic Cowboys teams of the 1990s. Michael Irvin was the locker-room sheriff, and he made sure a certain level of commitment and togetherness existed among all the players. Certainly, Irvin had his problems off the field, but no one ever doubted his work ethic and discipline for the game. He expected other players to follow his lead, and he never would have let anyone create a problem for Troy Aikman.


T.O. could never have pulled this in New England. Before he had to answer to Bill Belichick, he would have had to answer to Tom Brady, Tedy Bruschi, Rodney Harrison or any of the team's other strong leaders. There's a reason the Patriots haven't had a single problem from Randy Moss even though he's having a down season.


Strong leadership is why the Giants were never sunk by Jeremy Shockey, and even though they experienced a setback against the Eagles, I would be stunned if Plaxico Burress' legal troubles derail their quest for another Super Bowl.


T.O. is at his worst in locker rooms that are ripe for the picking. In San Francisco, T.O. was able to capitalize on the players' secret belief that coach Steve Mariucci didn't have the killer instinct necessary to make the 49ers a championship team.


In Philadelphia, T.O. used the petty jealousies of some players to undermine Donovan McNabb. He manipulated those who resented McNabb for his big contract and close relationship with management, starting a civil war that ultimately destroyed the Eagles' season.


Now T.O. is up to his same old tricks in Dallas. It wasn't surprising that Patrick Crayton and Roy Williams aligned with him to complain about Romo's favoring Witten, even though Owens has been targeted more than any other receiver in the Cowboys' offense.


I'm sure T.O.'s game plan wasn't a hard sell to Crayton and Williams. Crayton mostly was a bust as a secondary option and likely was looking to blame someone else for his shortcomings, and Williams whined in Detroit that Calvin Johnson was getting more balls, so this uprising was right up his alley.


T.O. will never change. But if the Cowboys insist on keeping him, they must change how they do things. As of now, Jerry Jones is that father who would rather be his child's friend than his parent. Wade Phillips is the oblivious grandparent who green-lights everything. The coaching staff is made up of aunts and uncles with no real power or say-so, and this entire melodrama is just a broke version of "Mean Girls." But trust me, things won't end that well.




John Childress -> RE: NFL News (12/14/2008 3:23:16 PM)

That is funny - grab Owens.

The last guy who did that got knocked out.




djskillz -> RE: NFL News (12/14/2008 4:08:30 PM)

T.O. is a little bitch.

He'll be crying in a jail cell with a guy named Bubba in a few years.




John Childress -> RE: NFL News (12/14/2008 5:39:07 PM)

Mike Tomlin just made an incredibly stupid playcall that might cost his team the game.

Owens in jail?  He has never been arrested or even failed a drug test.

Owens is more likely to be kicking ass than getting his ass kicked.




djskillz -> RE: NFL News (12/14/2008 6:11:32 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: John Childress

Mike Tomlin just made an incredibly stupid playcall that might cost his team the game.

Owens in jail?  He has never been arrested or even failed a drug test.

Owens is more likely to be kicking ass than getting his ass kicked.


Ya, his tears are very intimidating.




John Childress -> RE: NFL News (12/14/2008 6:14:17 PM)

Ask the defensive end who he knocked out




djskillz -> RE: NFL News (12/14/2008 6:20:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: John Childress

Ask the defensive end who he knocked out


Who was this?  I never heard anything about that.




John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (12/14/2008 10:01:23 PM)

The Giants may have jumped the gun on suspending Plaxico for the season.

Their offense looks real weak without him and also without Brandon Jacobs.




djskillz -> RE: RE:NFL News (12/14/2008 10:14:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: John Childress

The Giants may have jumped the gun on suspending Plaxico for the season.

Their offense looks real weak without him and also without Brandon Jacobs.


They had to do it, but agreed.

Their offense sucks without those 2.  Plaxico MAKES Eli.




John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (12/14/2008 10:34:03 PM)

They didn't have to do it.

Many teams wait until someone is convicted of a crime before disciplining them.




djskillz -> RE: RE:NFL News (12/14/2008 10:36:29 PM)

Could he have played anyway though?

I thought he was physically unable to anyway with the gunshot injury.

Is that inaccurate?




John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (12/14/2008 10:55:10 PM)

I thought he would have been able to return by the playoffs but I could be wrong.




Guest -> RE: RE:NFL News (12/15/2008 6:50:00 AM)

I don't think blowing a hole in your leg  (thigh?) with a hand gun, is conducive to running up and down a football field, at any speed, and getting tackled....




Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:NFL News (12/15/2008 7:51:16 AM)

Mitch Berger Accuses Frank Walker of Spitting in his Face
Mon Dec 15, 2008

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports Steelers P Mitch Berger accused Ravens CB Frank Walker of spitting in his face after PK Jeff Reed kicked the point after on WR Santonio Holmes' winning 4-yard touchdown catch. "The guy dove, he tried to take out Jeff's knee," said Berger, who holds for Reed's kicks. "I went over there and he got up and he spit in my face -- and they called it on Jeff for pushing him!" Reed drew a 15-yard penalty that was marked off on his kickoff after the score. "I tried to get in the middle to separate him but he got in my face and spit right in my mouth. He spit right in my mouth. I'm still trying to spit that ... out. I was talking to him, trying to separate everybody and he spit right in my mouth."


[&:]




Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:NFL News (12/15/2008 7:54:46 AM)

Pennington Breaks Marino's Consecutive Completions Record
Sun Dec 14, 2008

AP reports Miami Dolphins QB Chad Pennington connected on his first six passes today against the 49ers, extending his two-game streak to 17 completions in a row to break QB Dan Marino's team record of 15 set in 1992.




marty -> RE: RE:NFL News (12/15/2008 8:51:15 AM)

Something was brought up in the GB game that I hadn't considered as to why Thomas Jones is running MUCH better this year with Favre at QB, and Ryan Grant is NOT running as well with the Packers:  The Packers have been one of the WORST teams in the NFL in the 1st quarter, so they aren't playing with leads as often as last year. 

I was surprised to find that the Packers are the highest scoring team in the 4th quarter, but I would bet that is skewed by a few games.  I would also bet if you took the 1st 10 minutes of the 4th quarter, that is probably where almost all the points are coming from.  Rodgers has NOT been clutch in the last 5 minutes, and that has A LOT to do with the Packers not making the playoffs.

I'm not trying to magnify the effect of losing Favre, I DO think it hurt the Pack this year, and they MIGHT be in contention for a playoff spot if they still had him, but probably NOT, we'll just never know. 

While I DO think the Packers took a step backwards THIS year (letting go of Favre and going with Rodgers), I think it is probably a step FORWARDS for them next year (POSSIBLY anyway), should Rodgers advance next year and become one of the best QBs in the league. 




djskillz -> RE: RE:NFL News (12/15/2008 8:53:27 AM)

The Packers wouldn't be going anywhere with Favre.  And I still think the Jets would be in pretty much the same place with Pennington or Clemens and all their other additions.  In Pennington's case, it's possible they'd be even BETTER.

Who has the better cast around him right now?  Favre or Pennington?

To me, Favre does, easily.




Duane Sampson -> RE: RE:NFL News (12/15/2008 8:59:10 AM)

It's probably because Favre is so awesome that the entire free world is so focused on his awesominity and spectacular awesomenessness that everyone is totally and breathtakenly awed by his absolute awesomation that no one notices his running back sneaking through for yardage.

I know I'm awesomated at his awesombility to awesomely awe me......




John Childress -> RE: RE:NFL News (12/15/2008 9:04:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: djskillz

The Packers wouldn't be going anywhere with Favre.  And I still think the Jets would be in pretty much the same place with Pennington or Clemens and all their other additions.  In Pennington's case, it's possible they'd be even BETTER.

Who has the better cast around him right now?  Favre or Pennington?

To me, Favre does, easily.


BINGO

If not for the worst call I have ever seen in football, the Jets would be 8-6 and losers of 3 straight right now.

I see Jauron got an extension?  He should have been fired on the spot.

The jets had QUIT in that game.  Marshawn Lynch was breaking off runs UP THE MIDDLE for 1st down and this jackass does a QB rollout with a slow QB and loses the freakin' game!

CANHISASS

Buffalo Bills at 4:20BUFNYJ
1st and 10 at BUF 10(4:20) M.Lynch left tackle to BUF 14 for 4 yards (K.Jenkins, D.Harris). 
2nd and 6 at BUF 14(3:35) (Shotgun) M.Lynch left tackle to BUF 19 for 5 yards (C.Mosley, K.Rhodes). 
3rd and 1 at BUF 19(2:53) M.Lynch right guard to BUF 22 for 3 yards (S.Ellis, K.Rhodes). 

1st and 10 at BUF 22(2:11) M.Lynch left guard to BUF 27 for 5 yards (S.Ellis).  
Timeout #1 by NYJ at 02:06. 
2nd and 5 at BUF 27(2:06) J.Losman sacked at BUF 16 for -11 yards (A.Elam). FUMBLES (A.Elam), RECOVERED by NYJ-S.Ellis at BUF 11.  
S.Ellis for 11 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
27-24

Lynch is running for over 4 yards per carry, the game is your's you moron!




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