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Duane Sampson -> RE: NFL News (1/16/2008 11:34:32 AM)

I think I read that on his My Space site




Lynn G. -> RE: NFL News (1/16/2008 11:48:09 AM)

I haven't really followed his personal life since he was a Viking, but at that time he was still with his high school girlfriend with whom he had four children.  They had never married, but had been together all that time. 

As I recall, she and the kids still lived in the area that he came from and never moved to his various NFL cities with him.  However, if you guys remember Frank Offut who used to post at the Strib and is HER father (essentially Randy's Moss' common-law father-in-law) - he mentioned that the whole family was here last summer for some fishing, etc.

So it was my understanding that he wasn't married, but had a common-law situation. 




Duane Sampson -> RE: NFL News (1/16/2008 12:16:51 PM)

 
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=12281042





Randy Moss's Details







Status:
Married

Here for:
Friends

Orientation:
Straight

Hometown:
west virgina

Body type:
6' 4" / Athletic

Ethnicity:
Black / African descent

Religion:
Christian - other

Zodiac Sign:
Aquarius

Smoke / Drink:
No / Yes

Children:
Proud parent

Education:
College graduate

Occupation:
Pro Football Player

Income:
$250,000 and Higher




Duane Sampson -> RE: NFL News (1/16/2008 2:11:35 PM)

Chow Thinks Vince Young Got Him Fired, But...
Wed Jan 16, 2008 

 
The Nashville Tennessean reports Norm Chow said his working relationship with other members of the Titans coaching staff was good, and wondered if HC Jeff Fisher perhaps sided with QB Vince Young on a decision. "He sensed some frustrations on my part with Vince. So maybe it was Vince? I don't know,'' Chow said. "I am not too concerned with finding out why. It doesn't matter.'' Fisher said Young had nothing to do with the final decision. Young was vacationing on Tuesday and issued a statement through marketing manager Mike Mu. "I was shocked and didn't expect the news that I got today about Coach Chow,'' Young said. "I have grown closer and closer to him since coming to the Titans. He was a big part in the development in my first two years and I appreciate all he has done for me. I look forward to working with whoever Coach Fisher hires.''




Duane Sampson -> RE: NFL News (1/16/2008 2:14:52 PM)

Bengals Won't Trade Chad Johnson
Wed Jan 16, 2008

 
The Cincinnati Enquirer reports the Bengals had a news conference at 11 this morning to introduce DC Mike Zimmer, but the most telling answer was HC Marvin Lewis' take on WR Chad Johnson's radio-broadcast trade demand. "There will be no trade of Chad Johnson," Lewis said after he and Zimmer both discussed the team's defense. "He felt he was unduly chastised, ridiculed, we defended him then. ... He is a professional football player. He is a Cincinnati Bengal for quite a while."




Duane Sampson -> RE: NFL News (1/16/2008 2:16:13 PM)

Randy Moss Denies Hitting a Woman; Says She's Trying to Extort Money
Wed Jan 16, 2008

 
ESPN reports New England Patriots WR Randy Moss said Wednesday that allegations he committed battery against a woman are false and that she made the claim to get money from him. "I want to make something clear," the New England Patriots wide receiver said while surrounded by reporters and cameras at his locker. "In my whole entire life of living 30 years, I've never put my hand on one woman, physically or in an angry manner." The woman, identified in court records as Rachelle Washington, 35, of Fort Lauderdale, filed for and was granted a protection order against Moss, alleging he committed battery against her. The temporary injunction, issued in Broward County (Fla.) court, bars Moss from coming within 500 feet of the woman and from using or possessing firearms. No criminal charges have been filed in the matter. Moss gave no details of the alleged incident, saying he was restricted by the legal case. He said the woman was a friend of 11 years and that she asked for "six figures" for what Moss said was an accident in which she was hurt. He did not provide details about the accident. "They're false allegations, something I've been battling for like the last couple of days of threats going public if I didn't pay X amount of dollars," Moss said. "So before people rush quick to judgment I think you need to find out the facts about, really, what's going on. This young lady by no means is hurt. I didn't hurt her."




Jim Frenette -> RE: NFL News (1/16/2008 3:42:20 PM)

I just heard a KARE 11 teaser  "Randy Moss in trouble again"  This is sensationalist journalism at its best. Putting statements out there like that makes no sense at all.




Guest -> RE: NFL News (1/16/2008 4:06:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

I just heard a KARE 11 teaser  "Randy Moss in trouble again"  This is sensationalist journalism at its best. Putting statements out there like that makes no sense at all.

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Based on the history of the local media, WRT Moss,  I'm surprised they didn't come out with a headline that he killed somebody.




So.Mn.Fan -> RE: NFL News (1/16/2008 6:57:08 PM)

Geez, why didn't the Dolphins just admit that Parcells is the coach and be done with it.
Talk about hiring a puppet.
I don't expect some miraculous turnaround there.  




Duane Sampson -> RE: NFL News (1/17/2008 6:57:18 AM)

I don't know what exactly Moss supposedly did, but I'm betting he pushed off. [&:]




Duane Sampson -> RE: NFL News (1/17/2008 8:28:22 AM)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0116081moss1.html




Guest -> RE: NFL News (1/17/2008 9:29:16 AM)

I just don't buy this one.  Claims of battery and that Moss wouldn't let her get medical attention, yet no criminal charges have been filed.  I'm not sure about Florida, but in most states, it is a felony to interfere with a 911 call.  So if her claim is that Moss beat her and then wouldn't let her call 911, there most certainly should be charges filed.




Andy Lowe -> RE: NFL News (1/17/2008 9:35:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Duane Sampson

I don't know what exactly Moss supposedly did, but I'm betting he pushed off. [&:]


.......and I bet the eyewitness was an NFL official!




Trekgeekscott -> RE: NFL News (1/17/2008 9:39:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pete C

I just don't buy this one.  Claims of battery and that Moss wouldn't let her get medical attention, yet no criminal charges have been filed.  I'm not sure about Florida, but in most states, it is a felony to interfere with a 911 call.  So if her claim is that Moss beat her and then wouldn't let her call 911, there most certainly should be charges filed.


According to what I heard, the woman suffered a MINOR injury to her finger...according to Moss the contact that caused it was accidental not intentional, and the Lawyer for the woman demanded not a penny less than $500,000.00 in compensation or he would go public with the case....

Sounds to me like Randy is right.  It is a woman trying to get money off of him.




Duane Sampson -> RE: NFL News (1/17/2008 9:54:59 AM)

Jason Garrett to Remain with Cowboys
Thu Jan 17, 2008

 
ESPN's Ed Werder reports Dallas Cowboys OC Jason Garrett will forgo head coaching opportunities this year to remain with the Cowboys.




Lynn G. -> RE: NFL News (1/17/2008 10:06:48 AM)

I have a theory based in part on something I heard on PA and Dubay yesterday.  They were talking about the fact that sometimes when an assistant coach is brought in for interviews, it's nothing more than a favor because interviewing for a head coaching job will usually bring a raise in pay offer from their current employer, and it also gets their name in the mix with other franchises.  For example, Parcells brought a number of people in for interviews even though it was obvious to everyone that he was going to offer the job to Tony Sparano. 

The Rooney Rule explains some of the interviews, but the point was that by bringing in some others (i.e. Mike Tice), it was done as a favor.

My continuation of their thought is that I believe other coaches extend favors to Mike Tice for a couple of reasons, one of which is the fact that he didn't roll over on anyone for ticketgate.  When Tice was charged with selling Superbowl tickets, it was widely reported that it was a practice that every team did, and that every team had one guy on the staff that took care of that.  Tice was the only one charged (it was alledged that someone turned him in and the NFL couldn't pretend not to notice anymore) and the NFL gave a general warning across the league.  Tice never gave any other names to defend himself.  He took the hit for the whole group.

I believe that that bought him a lot of credits among other coaches and was probably part of the reason he was brought in to interview with the Jets right after his firing and is why he is offered interviews now.  Even if they don't result in job offers, it gives him a little leverage with the Jaguars with regard to his own contract.

Anyway - just a theory.  It seems like that's the way the network works and in the case of Tice - good for him for taking his lumps with the ticketgate episode without ratting anyone out.




John Childress -> RE: NFL News (1/17/2008 10:24:50 AM)

For all his faults, Tice seems to be a stand up guy




Jim Frenette -> RE: NFL News (1/17/2008 10:27:22 AM)

Lynn a lot of what you say I guess would be true. I think also doing the interviews, the coach can gage what owners want to hear so the next year they can prepare for the interview even better. Parcels and Tice have the same agent so the favor is there.

Parcells always said that if they expected to cook, then they should also let him shop for the grocerys. I wonder if he still feels that way and give Tony the opportunity to hand pick players?




Duane Sampson -> RE: NFL News (1/17/2008 12:22:09 PM)

The Song Remains the Same

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Randy Moss







By John Holler
Posted Jan 17, 2008


Randy Moss was besieged by reporters Wednesday to respond to allegations of battery made by a Florida woman who claims Moss physically assaulted her. While the facts of the case are sketchy at best, it has given the media to once again jump off the Moss bandwagon -- using this incident to continue the decade-long perception that Moss is the bad guy.


Here we go again.

One of the phrases that makes the least sense of any in the English language is “the court of public opinion.” It somehow gives credence to the rush-to-judgment mentality that has allowed people to be convicted in the public eye without the benefit of little things like testimony from applicable witnesses, background information and even basis facts. In an era where drug-addled, no-underwear party-mongering by pseudo-celebrities like Paris Hilton or Britney Spears is of more interest than Presidential debates to decide the direction of this country over the next four years, it shouldn’t come as a surprise that Randy Moss is at the top of the sports headlines again.

Moss and the media have had a long and storied past, dating back to the day he was drafted a little less than 10 years ago. Moss had a checkered past that, in light of the previous high draft selection of Lawrence Phillips – a bad boy of epic proportions that had several teams reviewing their policy of talent vs. character – became a powder keg of controversy that allowed Moss to slide deep into the first round of the draft.

In my first interview with Moss on draft weekend, I asked him why he wasn’t in New York City for the draft itself to do the obligatory grip-and-grin with Commissioner Paul Tagliabue – keeping in mind that back then they invited about 20 players, some of whom would be in the green room until after the chairs at the tables around them had been turned upside down and abandoned. Moss’ response? “The NFL doesn’t want nothin’ to do with Randy Moss.”

To an extent, he was right. The NFL was in image spin control and really didn’t want to hitch its wagon to a player like Moss, who was seen as carrying a ton of off-field baggage – which he did. However, within the span of six months, the TV networks and even the NFL itself would start promoting games with phrases like “the Chicago Bears meet Randy Moss and the Minnesota Vikings.” When it came time to cha-ching a cash register and promote the game, the suits in the NFL knew that Randy Moss meant box office.

That has been the story of Moss’ career. Fans love him. For the most part, his teammates loved him, or at least his talent. But his relationship with the media was such that whenever there would be some sort of issue that came forward in his life that it was headline news. Some were clearly Moss’ fault – like squirting the referee with a water bottle in the 1999 playoffs and walking off the field early in a season-ending game with the Redskins. But others were matters clearly blown out of proportion and sensationalized because they made news. The most prominent of these was an incident with a traffic control officer in Minneapolis – a case in which almost every eyewitness to the incident said the officer herself escalated the situation.

In every incident that has happened, from the traffic incident to the “mooning” of Packers fans – something any Vikings player can tell you is done by Packers fans to the Vikings as their team bus leaves Lambeau Field – it has given the national and local media a chance to pull out their file tapes and relive the incidents that have been part of Moss’ past. Not only do they report on it, but they seem to relish in it.

So it should have come as no surprise that Moss, who was described almost universally as a potential cancer to the Patriots locker room until he played a key role in the team being on the threshold of history, is once again being vilified in the media for what he says is an extortion attempt.

The facts of the case seem sketchy at best. A woman claims battery and apparently what was injured was a finger. Her attorney allegedly asked for $500,000 or the case would be made public – at the worst possible time. Moss refused and news that the woman (whom Moss has known since college) obtained a restraining order against him. Moss vehemently denied ever striking the woman in an interview session in the Patriots locker room and said he has never struck a woman. But does that make a difference?

Nope.

Once again the media – both locally in the Twin Cities and nationally – has jumped on this. Moss is a distraction. Moss has a checkered history. Moss is a bad guy.

It doesn’t seem to matter that Tom Brady can get a couple of supermodels pregnant almost simultaneously because he’s the golden boy. Moss isn’t. It’s little wonder Moss has no love lost for the media. It would seem every chance they get, they stick the skewer in him and twist.

While I know as much about the specifics of this incident as you do, it’s time for the media to let the facts of the case come out and not rush to judge Moss or use this incident to dredge up more bad information from his past. Let the man play football and, as much as it might hurt not being able to tease a Moss story before the commercial break, don’t make a story out of something that quite simply may not have merit.

Will that happen? No. Moss is money wherever a story can be generated. But hopefully some media outlets will use the restraint to not convict Moss in the mythical court of public opinion – at least not until a minimal amount of facts come to light.




djskillz -> RE: NFL News (1/17/2008 12:52:22 PM)

Lynn, I agree with you 100 %.  Hell, some coaches supposedly had tons of extra tickets written into their contracts!

I agree, Tice may not be the best coach (though I do think he'll succeed the 2nd time around) but he seems to be one hell of a guy.




Mr. Ed -> RE: NFL News (1/18/2008 10:32:25 AM)

Ernie Holmes died in a car accident

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/01/18/bc.fbn.obit.holmes.ap/index.html

There are some in here that likely don't, but I have been a seat belt wearer since before I had kids. I can't imagine driving around w/o one hooked up.




Lynn G. -> RE: NFL News (1/18/2008 10:36:52 AM)

I agree Ed. Putting on the seat belt has been a habit since I was a teenager and I can't imagine not doing it, even for a ride around the block.  




Jim Frenette -> RE: NFL News (1/18/2008 10:40:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Ernie Holmes died in a car accident

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/01/18/bc.fbn.obit.holmes.ap/index.html

There are some in here that likely don't, but I have been a seat belt wearer since before I had kids. I can't imagine driving around w/o one hooked up.


Ed I've been in a head on crash and it saved my life. I'm a believer.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: NFL News (1/18/2008 10:49:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Ernie Holmes died in a car accident

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/01/18/bc.fbn.obit.holmes.ap/index.html

There are some in here that likely don't, but I have been a seat belt wearer since before I had kids. I can't imagine driving around w/o one hooked up.


Ed I've been in a head on crash and it saved my life. I'm a believer.


My car doesn't move unless everyone in the car is buckled. 

A good example.  My father and I sing in the church choir.  Every Tuesday I go to my parents house and have dinner,  after dinner, I drive my father (he also plays a guitar so there is too much to walk this far) to practice at the church...literally ONE BLOCK AWAY.  And he knows (since he taught me) that the car wont move until he is buckled. 

My kids race to see who can get buckled first. 

This reminds me of the Derrick Thomas accident.  There were three guys in the car...1. didn't buckle and died on the scene, 2.  Derrick Thomas, who didn't buckle up and was paralyzed and died about a month later, and 3.  The guy who did buckle up and walked away with just some scrapes and bruises. 

A great opportunity for a buckle up campaign was lost there if you ask me.




Jim Frenette -> RE: NFL News (1/18/2008 11:19:49 AM)

Gee Scott if only we knew you could sing, we could have had you serenade us at Joe Sensors [:)]




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