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Stacey King -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 9:58:11 AM)

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Lester isn't one of the best pitchers in the game. He's having a fluke season so far. I'd be afraid of regression the rest of the season.



Veteran mentor for the A's staff once they hit the play-offs. He gets the ball in Game 1 of each series. Will not be overtaken by the moment.
Very valuable in that sense.

I'd take any other playoff team's #1 over Lester. Sounds like a loss to me. Fits better as a #2 or #3 on the A's staff. I'd start Kazmir #1 if I'm the A's and not think twice about it.


We disagree



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 9:58:29 AM)

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Tommy Millone,

doesn't throw hard. # 4 starter on a bad team. # 5 on a good team, maybe.


I'm ok with that.

I'll take Millone over

Correia
2014 Nolasco
Pino



twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 9:59:09 AM)

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Disagree, Ed. Cespedes isn't all that.

Also Matt, fuzzy math from the accountant. Lester's ERA+ this year is 155. And all you should care about if you're the A's is this year.

[sm=scratch.gif]

Dustin, since when do you rely on small sample sizes? His last several years before this one have been mediocre.



Stacey King -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 9:59:29 AM)

Milone waaay better than Correia.

Huge upgrade.



twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 9:59:59 AM)

The Twins have acquired lefty Tommy Milone from the A’s, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter link).



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:00:18 AM)

Well


RT @Ken_Rosenthal: #Twins calling up 1B/DH Kenny Vargas. Could be related to trade.



djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:00:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Stacey King

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Lester isn't one of the best pitchers in the game. He's having a fluke season so far. I'd be afraid of regression the rest of the season.



Veteran mentor for the A's staff once they hit the play-offs. He gets the ball in Game 1 of each series. Will not be overtaken by the moment.
Very valuable in that sense.

I'd take any other playoff team's #1 over Lester. Sounds like a loss to me. Fits better as a #2 or #3 on the A's staff. I'd start Kazmir #1 if I'm the A's and not think twice about it.


Wow. Do not agree at all. I'd take Price over Lester to start, MAYBE Verlander. And; that's it of potential playoff teams in the AL.



djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:01:03 AM)

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Disagree, Ed. Cespedes isn't all that.

Also Matt, fuzzy math from the accountant. Lester's ERA+ this year is 155. And all you should care about if you're the A's is this year.

[sm=scratch.gif]

Dustin, since when do you rely on small sample sizes? His last several years before this one have been mediocre.


Do not agree. But again, the A's should only care about this year in a Lester deal. And he's been dominant. In a way worse park.



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:01:39 AM)

Fuld back to OAK in Milone trade



Stacey King -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:02:02 AM)

Milone for Willingham or Fuld is a good trade.

Ryan did good.

Scott Diamond is a poor man's Tommy Milone.

Milone is worth watching.



djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:02:35 AM)

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Fuld back to OAK in Milone trade


Just Fuld? If so: HUGE!

Not a big Millone guy, but way better than Correia for sure. Of course, so are half of us on this forum.



twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:03:18 AM)

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Well


RT @Ken_Rosenthal: #Twins calling up 1B/DH Kenny Vargas. Could be related to trade.

Parms? Colabello? Please tell me Beane didn't want them. It must be Willingham to replace Cespedes. So much for that Vogt guy.



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:03:43 AM)

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Milone for Willingham or Fuld is a good trade.

Ryan did good.

Scott Diamond is a poor man's Tommy Milone.

Milone is worth watching.


Flipped a DFA pick up for a pitching upgrade.

Flipped an overweight DH that was doing nada for a potential bullpen arm, and got them to pay the bill.

2-2



twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:04:03 AM)

Fuld. Good.

Nice trade for the Twins.

We swindled Billy Beane.



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:04:29 AM)

Willingham could go back to LF, with Vargas as DH



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:05:44 AM)

Milone had pitched to a solid 3.55 ERA with 5.7 K/9, 2.4 BB/9 and a 38.4 percent fly-ball rate in 96 1/3 innings this season.

>>>>>>>>>> than 20 million dollars in starting pitching this season.



twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:05:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: djskillz

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Stacey King

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Lester isn't one of the best pitchers in the game. He's having a fluke season so far. I'd be afraid of regression the rest of the season.



Veteran mentor for the A's staff once they hit the play-offs. He gets the ball in Game 1 of each series. Will not be overtaken by the moment.
Very valuable in that sense.

I'd take any other playoff team's #1 over Lester. Sounds like a loss to me. Fits better as a #2 or #3 on the A's staff. I'd start Kazmir #1 if I'm the A's and not think twice about it.


Wow. Do not agree at all. I'd take Price over Lester to start, MAYBE Verlander. And; that's it of potential playoff teams in the AL.

Kazmir 1.02 WHIP



Stacey King -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:08:36 AM)

Ryan should trade Fien, Hicks, Hammer and Phil Hughes to Seattle for Nick Franklin and Tajuan Walker


Never hurts to ask.



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:09:52 AM)

Milone is also only 27

Wow, that's an excellent deal for new "fan fave" Sam Fuld.



Stacey King -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:12:37 AM)

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Milone is also only 27

Wow, that's an excellent deal for new "fan fave" Sam Fuld.


won't reach free agency until 2018 too.



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:12:51 AM)

Kudos to Bruno for getting Fuld up to a level where someone wanted him.

Milone may not throw hard, but can pitch. Something Rick Anderson will likely wreck.



twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:13:48 AM)

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Milone is also only 27

Wow, that's an excellent deal for new "fan fave" Sam Fuld.

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The only downside is Milone is a typical RA pitcher. This indicates to me that RA ain't going anywhere.



djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:14:12 AM)

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Cespedes has 80Ks in 101 games. Willingham has 64 in 59 games.

I understand you like all your new-found stats. This one? I'll go with my gut. Willingham stinks. Period. He is not a better player than Cespedes.

And I'll even go Gardy on this one, his D is a huge improvement over WHam, who only DHs now in MN because he's so bad.


Ed, not saying he's better, mainly for the reasons you cite. But he has hit better than Cespedes has this year in his PT; that can't really be disputed.

But the overall point is that Cespedes just isn't anything special. He's not young and he's a HR derby guy with a cannon arm so people go bonkers. But he's not all that. And Beane knows it.



djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:15:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Well


RT @Ken_Rosenthal: #Twins calling up 1B/DH Kenny Vargas. Could be related to trade.

Parms? Colabello? Please tell me Beane didn't want them. It must be Willingham to replace Cespedes. So much for that Vogt guy.


Beane will mix and match with platoons and maximize a slew of bats. Smart move.



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/31/2014 10:17:30 AM)

You have got to be kidding me

Per @Twins_morsecode, newly-acquired Tommy Milone will report to Triple-A Rochester. #MNTwins



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