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Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/29/2013 12:14:52 PM)

The Braves found their left-handed reliever, acquiring veteran Scott Downs from the Angels for righty reliever Cory Rasmus, according to Halos communications director Eric Kay.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/29/2013 12:33:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

The Braves found their left-handed reliever, acquiring veteran Scott Downs from the Angels for righty reliever Cory Rasmus, according to Halos communications director Eric Kay.

Twins wanted too much for Duensing.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/29/2013 12:38:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

The Braves found their left-handed reliever, acquiring veteran Scott Downs from the Angels for righty reliever Cory Rasmus, according to Halos communications director Eric Kay.

Twins wanted too much for Duensing.



Does that surprise you, Matt?

Not me. TRyan wants a killing for any trade. Duensing is average-at-best. Over-valued by MN.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/29/2013 12:40:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

The Braves found their left-handed reliever, acquiring veteran Scott Downs from the Angels for righty reliever Cory Rasmus, according to Halos communications director Eric Kay.

Twins wanted too much for Duensing.



Does that surprise you, Matt?

Not me. TRyan wants a killing for any trade. Duensing is average-at-best. Over-valued by MN.

Word is the Twins wanted Andrelton Simmons for Duensing.  [&:]




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/29/2013 1:03:44 PM)

Biggest news of our season ... Downs is out of the AL!!!!!!
Seriously, that's huge.
Wait .... But we may have to beat him in the WS .... Darnit.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/29/2013 2:35:30 PM)

Of course not...it's the BOSOX

According to the paper, Major League Baseball reviewed Ortiz’s actions and deemed them not necessary for a suspension.


And the wise owl that is Papeldouchebag:

I definitely didn’t come here for this.
“It’s going to take, in my opinion, a lot,” he said. “And in my opinion, I think it’s going to have to be something very similar to what the Red Sox went through a couple years ago. From top to bottom.”




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/29/2013 7:38:58 PM)

Cubs starting pitcher Scott Baker has looked hesitant to throw at full strength in his rehab starts according to manager Dale Sveum, the Chicago Sun-Times reports.

Baker has a 13.50 ERA in three rehab starts at Low Class A Kane County. According to Sveum, such struggles "come with the territory" of rehabbing from Tommy John surgery. The Cubs will wait until Baker can throw around 85 pitches in a game before determining the next step with him, but his return doesn't seem near at this point.




Zoilo -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/29/2013 9:29:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

The Braves found their left-handed reliever, acquiring veteran Scott Downs from the Angels for righty reliever Cory Rasmus, according to Halos communications director Eric Kay.

Twins wanted too much for Duensing.



Does that surprise you, Matt?

Not me. TRyan wants a killing for any trade. Duensing is average-at-best. Over-valued by MN.

Word is the Twins wanted Andrelton Simmons for Duensing.  [&:]


Holy crap! they could have had Cory Rasmus




Zoilo -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/29/2013 9:32:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Of course not...it's the BOSOX

According to the paper, Major League Baseball reviewed Ortiz’s actions and deemed them not necessary for a suspension.


And the wise owl that is Papeldouchebag:

I definitely didn’t come here for this.
“It’s going to take, in my opinion, a lot,” he said. “And in my opinion, I think it’s going to have to be something very similar to what the Red Sox went through a couple years ago. From top to bottom.”



If Ortiz didn't get a hefty fine, the commissioner is an idiot. (he is anyway)




Zoilo -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/29/2013 9:44:48 PM)

Ortiz should be charged with vandalism.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/29/2013 9:59:34 PM)

Crain dealt to the Rays; did not know you could trade someone on the DL.




CPAMAN -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/29/2013 10:23:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

The Braves found their left-handed reliever, acquiring veteran Scott Downs from the Angels for righty reliever Cory Rasmus, according to Halos communications director Eric Kay.

Twins wanted too much for Duensing.



What? A 45th round draft choice?




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/30/2013 8:23:02 AM)

Some great action around the league last night
Starting to wind down and get important every night .... Some places
Liriano finishes off a great month
Rays hanging tough

I see espn had to analyze a questionable call in Boston .... For about ten minutes
It was bang-bang
It may have been wrong
Move on. no wait ... It's the Red Sox. Lets change the rules and get this right. [&o]




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/30/2013 8:44:02 AM)

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Move on. no wait ... It's the Red Sox. Lets change the rules and get this right


REPLAY

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SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/30/2013 10:50:32 AM)

Bowdens five teams that should stand pat.



One of my favorite trade deadline baseball clichés is "sometimes the best trades you make are the ones you don’t make." Indeed, fans and media clamor at this time of year for teams to make trades, but regardless of how compelling a trade proposal or rumor might be, doing nothing sometimes is a general manager’s strongest play.

I remember at the 2006 trade deadline, most of the media and the Washington Nationals’ fan base was calling for me to trade Alfonso Soriano. The best offers I had for Soriano were from the Seattle Mariners -- who offered me hard-throwing reliever Mark Lowe -- and the Minnesota Twins -- who offered right-handed starter Kevin Slowey.

In the end, I felt the best thing for the team was to hold on to Soriano, who eventually left via free agency and signed with the Chicago Cubs. Meanwhile, Lowe ended up blowing out his elbow and Slowey has been little more than a fringe starter. The draft pick compensation the Nationals received? It turned out to be the pick used to select right-hander Jordan Zimmermann, now one of Washington’s best pitchers.

Look, no fan wants to hear his/her team is going to just “stand pat,” but that’s exactly what these five teams should do in the next 72 hours.

Tampa Bay Rays
The Rays should do what they normally do at the trade deadline: nothing. While their competition usually will trade young prospects for expensive proven veteran players, which tends to result in just stopgap-type moves, the Rays will often make minor moves or do nothing at all.

The Rays’ team payroll is under $60 million, and the rest of the AL East ranges from Baltimore’s $90 million to the Yankees’ $228 million. The Rays cannot spend like the other teams in the division but won’t trade their best prospects -- and their cost-effective non-arbitration years -- either. (As it is, the Rays essentially acquired an impact bat by calling up top prospect Wil Myers a few weeks ago. He's hitting .328 with seven homers in 33 games for Tampa Bay.)

The Rays could use an upgrade at DH or left field or even another reliever. However, they’re not going to sacrifice prospects for incremental improvements. Any deal general manager Andrew Friedman makes must have some long-term impact. For example, if he can make a deal for a long-term solution at catcher, I’m confident he would make a prospect-for-prospect deal.




Oakland Athletics
After winning the division last season over the Texas Rangers, the A's are proving in 2013 that 2012 was no fluke. They sit atop the division, having scored the most runs and allowed the fewest of any club in the division.

The Athletics have been focused on improving the bullpen at the deadline as well as improving the top of the rotation, and are rumored to have interest in Chicago White Sox right-hander Jake Peavy. They’ve also explored the prospect cost on acquiring another middle infielder, such as Peavy's teammate, Alexei Ramirez.

Oakland also has left-hander Brett Anderson getting ready to come back from the DL, and, although he’ll start in the bullpen, he could end up pitching his way back into the rotation by September. Rookie Sonny Gray is a real wild card and could be a difference-maker in the rotation or bullpen. Either guy could end up being more effective than anyone the A's could trade for.

I think the A’s should just go with what they have. They have a close-knit team stocked with players in their prime (26-31 years old) and have been together and won for two years running.


Washington Nationals
The Nationals have been the most disappointing team in the National League even though their pitching staff has remained in the NL’s top six in ERA all season. The biggest problem for the Nationals has been their offense, as the Nats sit 24th in MLB in runs.

The problem is how to fix it. The outfield of Jayson Werth, Denard Span and Bryce Harper is going to be their same outfield next year. The infield of Adam LaRoche, Anthony Rendon, Ian Desmond and Ryan Zimmerman probably will be back next year, and Wilson Ramos is finally healthy behind the plate. So it’s not a question of the personnel.

The Nationals have been playing like a .500 team all season and feel this group simply is underachieving, which is why hitting coach Rick Eckstein was relieved of his duties.

However, although they’re talented enough to make a run in the second half, they will have to do it with the group they have. And they don’t have the same depth and bench production they had a year ago.

The Nationals will have to hope this lineup puts it together in the second half, because any other significant changes will have to wait until the offseason. Trading more good prospects just doesn’t make sense the way they’ve been playing.


Arizona Diamondbacks
Diamondbacks general manager Kevin Towers’ phone never stops ringing because of the team’s stable of young starting pitchers in the major and minor leagues. However, when you’re a midmarket club, you just can’t trade that type of talent for stopgap players at the trade deadline.

The Diamondbacks are a solid blue-collar team that looked like an 85-win team in March and still look like that three days from the trade deadline.

In other words, this is a good team but not a great team. To make significant trades to improve the team, they’d have to mortgage the future because everyone keeps asking for elite pitching prospect Archie Bradley and Tyler Skaggs, and it just doesn’t make sense to trade years of non-arbitration eligibility to try to win now, especially when this team simply isn’t good enough to win a World Series by making those types of deadline deals.

Outside of a small deal for a left-handed reliever, they’re probably better off doing nothing and trying to win over the next several years with the young pitching they have stockpiled.


Toronto Blue Jays
If the Nationals are the most disappointing team in the NL, the Blue Jays beat out the Los Angeles Angels as the most disappointing AL team. The Jays have a choice at this deadline: either blow it up and offer Jose Bautista, Mark Buehrle and R.A. Dickey to all the contenders, or keep this team together and try to win with the same group next year.

At the very least, they must rebound and show some signs they can contend in 2014. I think they'll leave well enough alone and see what the team is made of the rest of the season. If they don’t improve, they will become the headline wheeler-dealers in Orlando this December at MLB’s annual winter meetings.




CPAMAN -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/30/2013 10:52:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Some great action around the league last night
Starting to wind down and get important every night .... Some places
Liriano finishes off a great month
Rays hanging tough

I see espn had to analyze a questionable call in Boston .... For about ten minutes
It was bang-bang
It may have been wrong
Move on. no wait ... It's the Red Sox. Lets change the rules and get this right. [&o]


And the brain TR sits and does nothing.  What a loser!  [:'(]




CPAMAN -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/30/2013 10:53:28 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Bowdens five teams that should stand pat.



One of my favorite trade deadline baseball clichés is "sometimes the best trades you make are the ones you don’t make." Indeed, fans and media clamor at this time of year for teams to make trades, but regardless of how compelling a trade proposal or rumor might be, doing nothing sometimes is a general manager’s strongest play.

I remember at the 2006 trade deadline, most of the media and the Washington Nationals’ fan base was calling for me to trade Alfonso Soriano. The best offers I had for Soriano were from the Seattle Mariners -- who offered me hard-throwing reliever Mark Lowe -- and the Minnesota Twins -- who offered right-handed starter Kevin Slowey.

In the end, I felt the best thing for the team was to hold on to Soriano, who eventually left via free agency and signed with the Chicago Cubs. Meanwhile, Lowe ended up blowing out his elbow and Slowey has been little more than a fringe starter. The draft pick compensation the Nationals received? It turned out to be the pick used to select right-hander Jordan Zimmermann, now one of Washington’s best pitchers.

Look, no fan wants to hear his/her team is going to just “stand pat,” but that’s exactly what these five teams should do in the next 72 hours.

Tampa Bay Rays
The Rays should do what they normally do at the trade deadline: nothing. While their competition usually will trade young prospects for expensive proven veteran players, which tends to result in just stopgap-type moves, the Rays will often make minor moves or do nothing at all.

The Rays’ team payroll is under $60 million, and the rest of the AL East ranges from Baltimore’s $90 million to the Yankees’ $228 million. The Rays cannot spend like the other teams in the division but won’t trade their best prospects -- and their cost-effective non-arbitration years -- either. (As it is, the Rays essentially acquired an impact bat by calling up top prospect Wil Myers a few weeks ago. He's hitting .328 with seven homers in 33 games for Tampa Bay.)

The Rays could use an upgrade at DH or left field or even another reliever. However, they’re not going to sacrifice prospects for incremental improvements. Any deal general manager Andrew Friedman makes must have some long-term impact. For example, if he can make a deal for a long-term solution at catcher, I’m confident he would make a prospect-for-prospect deal.




Oakland Athletics
After winning the division last season over the Texas Rangers, the A's are proving in 2013 that 2012 was no fluke. They sit atop the division, having scored the most runs and allowed the fewest of any club in the division.

The Athletics have been focused on improving the bullpen at the deadline as well as improving the top of the rotation, and are rumored to have interest in Chicago White Sox right-hander Jake Peavy. They’ve also explored the prospect cost on acquiring another middle infielder, such as Peavy's teammate, Alexei Ramirez.

Oakland also has left-hander Brett Anderson getting ready to come back from the DL, and, although he’ll start in the bullpen, he could end up pitching his way back into the rotation by September. Rookie Sonny Gray is a real wild card and could be a difference-maker in the rotation or bullpen. Either guy could end up being more effective than anyone the A's could trade for.

I think the A’s should just go with what they have. They have a close-knit team stocked with players in their prime (26-31 years old) and have been together and won for two years running.


Washington Nationals
The Nationals have been the most disappointing team in the National League even though their pitching staff has remained in the NL’s top six in ERA all season. The biggest problem for the Nationals has been their offense, as the Nats sit 24th in MLB in runs.

The problem is how to fix it. The outfield of Jayson Werth, Denard Span and Bryce Harper is going to be their same outfield next year. The infield of Adam LaRoche, Anthony Rendon, Ian Desmond and Ryan Zimmerman probably will be back next year, and Wilson Ramos is finally healthy behind the plate. So it’s not a question of the personnel.

The Nationals have been playing like a .500 team all season and feel this group simply is underachieving, which is why hitting coach Rick Eckstein was relieved of his duties.

However, although they’re talented enough to make a run in the second half, they will have to do it with the group they have. And they don’t have the same depth and bench production they had a year ago.

The Nationals will have to hope this lineup puts it together in the second half, because any other significant changes will have to wait until the offseason. Trading more good prospects just doesn’t make sense the way they’ve been playing.


Arizona Diamondbacks
Diamondbacks general manager Kevin Towers’ phone never stops ringing because of the team’s stable of young starting pitchers in the major and minor leagues. However, when you’re a midmarket club, you just can’t trade that type of talent for stopgap players at the trade deadline.

The Diamondbacks are a solid blue-collar team that looked like an 85-win team in March and still look like that three days from the trade deadline.

In other words, this is a good team but not a great team. To make significant trades to improve the team, they’d have to mortgage the future because everyone keeps asking for elite pitching prospect Archie Bradley and Tyler Skaggs, and it just doesn’t make sense to trade years of non-arbitration eligibility to try to win now, especially when this team simply isn’t good enough to win a World Series by making those types of deadline deals.

Outside of a small deal for a left-handed reliever, they’re probably better off doing nothing and trying to win over the next several years with the young pitching they have stockpiled.


Toronto Blue Jays
If the Nationals are the most disappointing team in the NL, the Blue Jays beat out the Los Angeles Angels as the most disappointing AL team. The Jays have a choice at this deadline: either blow it up and offer Jose Bautista, Mark Buehrle and R.A. Dickey to all the contenders, or keep this team together and try to win with the same group next year.

At the very least, they must rebound and show some signs they can contend in 2014. I think they'll leave well enough alone and see what the team is made of the rest of the season. If they don’t improve, they will become the headline wheeler-dealers in Orlando this December at MLB’s annual winter meetings.


Surprising that the Twins are not on his list.  TR apparently thinks so.  [&o]




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/30/2013 11:03:57 AM)

Yankees getting closer and closer to getting "someone" to help pay the rest of that ugly ARod contract. [&:]




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/30/2013 11:22:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Yankees getting closer and closer to getting "someone" to help pay the rest of that ugly ARod contract. [&:]



A 2 year suspension using the CBA would help.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/30/2013 11:25:44 AM)

Always working .....
Some say conniving .....
[&:]




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/30/2013 11:45:13 AM)

Boomer Scott dies at 69
Always thought of him when I see Big Papi




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/30/2013 11:46:38 AM)

I Kinda like the Rays
Not sure I like the idea of The Crain Train blowing games for them
I've seen enough of that




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/30/2013 12:10:16 PM)

With their star suspended for the rest of the 2013 season and the team languishing in last place, the Milwaukee Brewers went looking for a way to say 'We're sorry' to their fans.
What they found was undoubtedly the best way to apologize: Free food and drinks.
To be more specific, each fan who spins the Miller Park turnstiles during the month of August will receive a $10 voucher that can be used at the stadium's concession stands. With 12 home dates in August and an average expected attendance of 30,000, that's a roughly $3.6 million hit the Brewers are taking with this "Fans First" promotion— or more than the $3.1 million they would have had to pay Ryan Braun had he not been suspended for 65 games after getting caught up in the Biogenesis scandal.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/30/2013 2:24:09 PM)

Crazy Brian Wilson sign a minor league deal with, of course .... The LA Dodgers
Being a Beach Boy, after all.




Steve Lentz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/30/2013 5:12:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Boomer Scott dies at 69
Always thought of him when I see Big Papi


I always thought the same thing. It sucks being old. (not you of course).[;)]




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