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Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/7/2014 10:30:44 AM)

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Danny Valencia getting some pt with the Jays.
Single and an RBI in the first.


I saw him last night on ESPN and was surprised. Last I heard, he was with KC.


Got traded for Liam Hendriks




Jim Frenette -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/7/2014 10:39:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Danny Valencia getting some pt with the Jays.
Single and an RBI in the first.


I saw him last night on ESPN and was surprised. Last I heard, he was with KC.


Got traded for Liam Hendriks


Ok I saw the Liam trade, but didn't see who went to Toronto. Thanks




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/7/2014 12:07:06 PM)

MLB is as stupid with "fun"things as the NFL

When a Dodgers player hits a home run, the team celebrates with a bubble machine. Before Tuesday's game against the Angels at Dodger Stadium, Joe Torre, Major League Baseball executive vice president, advised the Dodgers to stop using the machine.

That word did not get to all the players, or to the video crew. When Juan Uribe hit a home run in the second inning, the Dodger Stadium video board flashed an image with the words "Bubble Machine."




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/9/2014 11:53:53 AM)

Interesting.


One would think, Hall of Famer Mike Schmidt recently wrote in a column for the Associated Press, that young players on the Kansas City Royals would find a use for the hitting wisdom of K.C.'s own Hall of Famer, George Brett. And yet they didn't listen when Brett was the team's hitting coach, Schmidt says.

He and other Hall of Famers of Schmidt's generation told each other stories at the recent Hall of Fame induction weekend in Cooperstown, N.Y. Among the group was Brett, who told a fascinating and tragic tale about what it was like to coach the Royals players:

He said when he was hitting instructor last year, there were two indoor cages, and he would be in one flipping balls and the assistant coach in the other. The young Royals hitters were lined up to hit in the cage with the assistant, and none to hit in George's cage.

I find that hard to believe, but at the same time know why.

George, one of the greatest hitters ever, was there to coach, to offer his expertise, to suggest mechanics that might make a young hitter better. The other coach was there to coach as well, but not with a sense of urgency — rather, more by telling the hitters what they wanted to hear. George eventually quit because he felt he was wasting everyone's time in a failing effort to connect with them.

In Brett's defense, the Royals don't exactly have a roster full of great hitters. And they've gone through several—is it six?—hitting coaches over the past three years. Coaching only goes so far with the talent it's given. Schmidt acknowledges (or perhaps it's Brett acknowledging through Schmidt) that the communication breakdown might have been Brett's fault, at least in part. Not every great player makes for a great coach, and Schmidt used Ted Williams as a famous example.

But if the account with Brett and the unnamed young players is true, why has Brett been coaching during spring training with the Royals for years? Has he been just as "effective" in a similar way in the Cactus League? As far as Brett's fame preceding him, he might be GEORGE BRETT OMG! to us, but he's been around that organization longer than any current player, obviously. They all get a chance to meet with Brett, to get to know him a little. Would the reason that players like Eric Hosmer or Mike Moustakas "don't connect" with Brett be intimidation? Or just, like with Ted Williams, is it because Brett simply doesn't make for a good hitting coach?

It has seemed to be Brett's own first instinct that he doesn't. Otherwise, his role since he quit playing would be more like that of Paul Molitor with Minnesota, or other Hall of Fame types who get their hands dirty in the cage and on the field every day.

Schmidt's column on the whole is a good read, though the theme about "today's generation" not needing the help of Schmidt and his peers comes off as "Get of My Lawn" baloney and self pity. Schmidt is in a similar spot as Brett, only with the Phillies — an old-timer who helps during Grapefruit League time, but has never been a coach long term. Perhaps it's because Schmidt feels about communicating with young players the way he says Brett does — like he can't. The players of today want to get better just like those in Schmidt's day. But they also need the right coaches to help make that happen.

George Brett doesn't owe the Kansas City Royals a darned thing. But the team does owe its players the best possible coaching. Brett has to ask himself if it's even wise for him to coach during spring training anymore. After all, if the players aren't listening...




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/9/2014 2:35:40 PM)

Jeter with hit #3431 to move into 6th all-time.
Probably where he will end up in the rankings.
Tris Speaker is #5, with 3514.
Not bad my man.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/9/2014 5:23:47 PM)

My boy Danny Vee continues to give the Jays a lift.
Another big hit today, in front of Reimolds walk--off winner.
Good for you Danny.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/10/2014 8:54:50 PM)

Tigs hurting. Ani Sanchez to the DL.

Maybe the Twins can pawn Nolasco off on DET, and pay part of the salary.




lylej -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/10/2014 9:27:58 PM)

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Tigs hurting. Ani Sanchez to the DL.

Maybe the Twins can pawn Nolasco off on DET, and pay part of the salary.


Good idea....Tigers are not afraid of spending money when in position to win it all!




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/10/2014 9:32:07 PM)

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Tigs hurting. Ani Sanchez to the DL.

Maybe the Twins can pawn Nolasco off on DET, and pay part of the salary.


Good idea....Tigers are not afraid of spending money when in position to win it all!

But I also doubt they are stupid enough to want Nolasco in their rotation down the stretch and into the playoffs.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/10/2014 9:33:56 PM)

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/blue-jays-beat-tigers-6-000051240--mlb.html

Blue Jays beat Tigers 6-5 in 19 innings.




lylej -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/10/2014 9:42:18 PM)

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Tigs hurting. Ani Sanchez to the DL.

Maybe the Twins can pawn Nolasco off on DET, and pay part of the salary.


Good idea....Tigers are not afraid of spending money when in position to win it all!

But I also doubt they are stupid enough to want Nolasco in their rotation down the stretch and into the playoffs.


Totally agree!!




djskillz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/11/2014 9:53:53 AM)

Another "out of shape" guy goes down to an oblique injury in HanRam.

It's an epidemic. [&:]




ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/11/2014 10:11:15 AM)

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Another "out of shape" guy goes down to an oblique injury in HanRam.

It's an epidemic. [&:]

Mauer is physically weak for his size due to questionable off season conditioning. I did not attribute that to this injury. I attribute his lack of power to that.

Not sure what's going here. Cutch and HanRam go down and this absolves Mauer for not coming into camp stron? No. I don't think so




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/11/2014 11:37:09 AM)

Nice to see the Royals righting the ship.
I've never hated them.
I'd like to see them succeed, just to grind Bert and Ernie's gears.




sixthwi -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/11/2014 12:06:20 PM)

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Nice to see the Royals righting the ship.
I've never hated them.
I'd like to see them succeed, just to grind Bert and Ernie's gears.


Ernie's probably still saying bad things about them - what a tool.




Steve Lentz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/11/2014 12:36:47 PM)

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Nice to see the Royals righting the ship.
I've never hated them.
I'd like to see them succeed, just to grind Bert and Ernie's gears.

I'm not sure how anyone could hate the Royals. I know many didn't believe in them, but they have a lot of good young pitchers and I have said for a couple years that they we're coming.
I like that team.




Dave E -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/11/2014 12:38:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Nice to see the Royals righting the ship.
I've never hated them.
I'd like to see them succeed, just to grind Bert and Ernie's gears.

I'm not sure how anyone could hate the Royals. I know many didn't believe in them, but they have a lot of good young pitchers and I have said for a couple years that they we're coming.
I like that team.


WHOA WHOA WHOA -- is it "THEY" or "WE," Steve? WHERE DO YOUR LOYALTIES REALLY LIE? [;)][&:]




Steve Lentz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/11/2014 12:44:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Nice to see the Royals righting the ship.
I've never hated them.
I'd like to see them succeed, just to grind Bert and Ernie's gears.

I'm not sure how anyone could hate the Royals. I know many didn't believe in them, but they have a lot of good young pitchers and I have said for a couple years that they we're coming.
I like that team.


WHOA WHOA WHOA -- is it "THEY" or "WE," Steve? WHERE DO YOUR LOYALTIES REALLY LIE? [;)][&:]


[&:]

The Storm Chasers are in Omaha and I always get to a few of their games. In fact I'm taking most the family on Friday. I see all this young talent evolving.
I hope the Twins kick their ass every time though.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/11/2014 4:30:16 PM)

The league up in arms ... Bryce Harper was caught scraping thru the Atnalta A in the infield dirt behind home plate before walking to the batters box.
Soooo disrespectful I guess.


Pffffffffffffffft ..... I likey. Something I'd do probably. [:D]




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/11/2014 4:33:26 PM)

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The league up in arms ... Bryce Harper was caught scraping thru the Atnalta A in the infield dirt behind home plate before walking to the batters box.
Soooo disrespectful I guess.


Pffffffffffffffft ..... I likey. Something I'd do probably. [:D]


Don't get the hate over that. Some unwritten rule or some dung.

Harper sucks this year, so it shouldn't be a big deal. if it is, just hit him with a pitch. ATL is a-hole about that stuff anyway. And who are they, the unwritten rule police? Must be the manager rilin' up the troops, because McCann left.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/11/2014 4:35:59 PM)

Same thoughts Ed
People and their unwritten rules
I'd be the one scratching, and then I'd also be the one plunking him in the ribs.
Have fun people fer chrissakes. Guys like that make sport interesting.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/12/2014 9:34:52 AM)

Inside the secret world of the Cleveland Indians' baseball analytics department

...After all, an analytics department is akin to a CIA unit. The Indians won't let anyone know exactly what statistical programs they operate. They could be using the same methods other teams adopt. Who knows? Everyone involved remains tight-lipped. No one can say for sure how much advanced statistical analysis influences the decisions that front offices make or, a step further, how much they contribute to the product on the field and the overall team results...


Read the whole article here:

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2014/08/cleveland_indians_analytics_de.html




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/12/2014 9:42:01 AM)

Do others in the office refer to them as nerds or stat geeks?

"Not to our face," Woolner joked.


I imagine McMurfy's response to be: Absolutely! [:D]




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/12/2014 9:55:46 AM)

Coming Wednesday: What does the future of baseball analytics hold? Will there be a day in which traditional scouting becomes outdated? Are teams relying too much on numbers and not enough on external variables and common sense?

Coming Thursday: Considering all of the avenues the Indians' explore when making decisions, what, exactly, is the organization's philosophy and, given the track record, does it work?




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/12/2014 11:03:58 AM)

Tigers in full panic mode




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