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SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 11:01:56 AM)

Gardys just made a TON of great moves, hasn't he?

And yes ......... those are HIS moves. No one will convince me otherwise.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 11:04:56 AM)

Gardy couldn't even evaluate Kyle Lohse's defense correctly. It's a pitcher. Not that hard!




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 11:46:20 AM)

Tiger fans in an uproar over Joe Nathans "gesture" he gave them last night.
Screw them.
I've got no problem with a guy who's being booed loudly defending himself.
I thought it was subtle, and I liked it.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 11:49:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Tiger fans in an uproar over Joe Nathans "gesture" he gave them last night.
Screw them.
I've got no problem with a guy who's being booed loudly defending himself.
I thought it was subtle, and I liked it.



Been a rocky season.

Joe's not used to booking. Not in MN Nice, not in TX when it was all good.




Dave E -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 11:58:09 AM)

It would be awesome if, next time Joe is booed, he rocks double birds at TF. [:D]




lylej -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 12:33:19 PM)

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/sports/mlb/2014/07/25/13161279/




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 12:35:59 PM)

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It would be awesome if, next time Joe is booed, he rocks double birds at TF. [:D]

Wouldn't hate that at all.
But it takes a personality he doesn't have unfortunately.




Dave E -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 3:26:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

It would be awesome if, next time Joe is booed, he rocks double birds at TF. [:D]

Wouldn't hate that at all.
But it takes a personality he doesn't have unfortunately.


Can you imagine the media meltdown?




sixthwi -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 3:30:37 PM)

Mike Fiers of the Brewers, who throws between 89 and 91, has 14 strikeouts thru 6 innings today against the Cubs.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 4:05:19 PM)

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Mike Fiers of the Brewers, who throws between 89 and 91, has 14 strikeouts thru 6 innings today against the Cubs.

Dammit...I had a bid in for him in fantasy baseball that was to go through this Sunday morning. Now I'm gonna have to increase the bid and I doubt I'll get him because someone else will go crazy with their spending.




Steve Lentz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 5:36:53 PM)

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This is the latest the Royals have been in 1st this late in the season since 2003.


Would you say there are mostly Royals fans in Omaha? I am sure there are a good number of Twins fans. I know the Cardinals have a ridiculous amount of reach so I bet there are number of Cards fans there as well.

Am I close?


I'm gaining more respect for your baseball knowledge everyday. I would say Royals are easily number one. St. Louis and Cubs 2 & 3. Lots of Twins fans as well, but the Vikings are actually much more popular.



They had better be number 1 in Omaha given it has been home to KC's Triple A club since the beginning of time. The Omaha Royals changed their name to the Omaha Storm Chasers a few years ago.

And Des Moines better be a Cubs town instead of St. Louis as home to the Iowa Cubs.

But St. Louis is pretty popular.

I guess it comes with being probably the best run organization in all of professional sports.

A big time franchise is a relatively small market town.

Twins are not the little engine that could. St. Louis blows them out of the water in terms of ownership, management, coaching and fans.


Agreed Miles. I've felt for a long time that St. Louis is the best run franchise in baseball.
Taking the entire family to the Storm Chasers tomorrow.




Dave E -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 7:48:45 PM)

Royals, Cardinals...hmmm...[;)]




Steve Lentz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 7:53:19 PM)

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Royals, Cardinals...hmmm...[;)]


One must have a NL favorite and a 2nd choice in the AL.[:D]




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 8:03:35 PM)

My NL team is the Astros.




Steve Lentz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 8:17:27 PM)

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My NL team is the Astros.


Why?

Musial as a man and as a player was a favorite of mine.
Killebrew retired as a Royal.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 8:47:55 PM)

Jose Cruz. Sweetest swing I ever saw.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/14/2014 9:03:07 PM)

The Bird is 60

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140814&content_id=89648184&vkey=perspectives&c_id=mlb&fext=.jsp&tcid=tw_article_89648184




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/15/2014 3:09:54 PM)

From Insider

Our evaluation of the best tools in the game continues. On Wednesday, three MLB Insider talent evaluators -- Manny Acta, Jim Bowden and Christopher Crawford -- laid out the "best of the best" of the defensive tools. Today we look at hitting and baserunning tools.



Best hitting tool


1. Miguel Cabrera, Detroit Tigers
"He can handle every pitch and has the natural ability to always let his eyes tell him what to do with the ball. He doesn't get infield hits; he earns 'em by squaring up the ball. He's simply the best!" -- Manny Acta


2. Mike Trout, Angels
3. Robinson Cano, Mariners
4. Andrew McCutchen, Pirates
5. Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies

Honorable mention: Victor Martinez, Jose Altuve.


Best power hitter

1. Giancarlo Stanton, Miami Marlins
"I'm pretty sure he's the first player to break a scoreboard since Robert Redford did it in 'The Natural.'" -- Jim Bowden

2. Miguel Cabrera, Tigers: "Gets the nod here over guys with more raw power because it's not how far you hit 'em, it's how often." (Acta)
3. Edwin Encarnacion, Blue Jays
4. Mike Trout, Angels
5. Jose Abreu, White Sox

Honorable mention: Jose Bautista, Paul Goldschmidt, David Ortiz.


Best plate discipline


1. Joey Votto, Cincinnati Reds
"He sometimes is criticized for his lack of aggressiveness, but I find those critiques to be unjust. No hitter in baseball does a better job working counts into his favor than Votto does." -- Christopher Crawford

2. Jose Bautista, Blue Jays
3. Carlos Santana, Indians
4. Shin-Soo Choo, Rangers
5. Mike Napoli, Red Sox: "There's a reason he leads the majors in pitches per plate appearance." (Bowden)

Honorable mention: Mike Trout, Andrew McCutchen, Joe Mauer, Dustin Pedroia, Paul Goldschmidt.


Best 'bad-ball' hitter

1. Pablo Sandoval, San Francisco Giants
"There are newborns who have more patience than Sandoval does, though he does make hard contact on pitches outside the strike zone as well as any hitter in the game right now." -- Christopher Crawford


2. Victor Martinez, Tigers
3. Hunter Pence, Giants
4. Adrian Beltre, Rangers
5. Salvador Perez, Royals

Honorable mention: Jose Bautista, Billy Hamilton, Jose Altuve, Mark Trumbo, Jean Segura, Dustin Pedroia, Ichiro Suzuki.


Toughest hitter to strike out

1. Victor Martinez, Detroit Tigers
"Martinez has an amazing combination of strike zone knowledge and hand-eye coordination from both sides of the plate." -- Manny Acta


2. Ben Revere, Phillies: "Revere's swing is geared for contact, making him one of the toughest to get to swing and miss in baseball." (Crawford)
3. Michael Brantley, Indians
4. Jose Altuve, Astros: "He has that small frame, and he doesn't chase many bad pitches." (Bowden)
5. Robinson Cano, Mariners

Honorable mention: Jose Reyes, Denard Span, Albert Pujols, Ian Kinsler, Norichika Aoki.


Best 'small-ball' player


1. Erick Aybar, Los Angeles Angels
"Aybar does all the little things, and he enjoys doing them." -- Manny Acta

2. Jose Altuve, Astros: "Altuve simply does all the little things necessary to win games." (Crawford)
3. Brett Gardner, Yankees
4. Alcides Escobar, Royals
5. Jose Reyes, Blue Jays

Honorable mention: Martin Prado, Leonys Martin, Elvis Andrus, Everth Cabrera.


Fastest baserunner

1. Billy Hamilton, Cincinnati Reds
"His true 80 speed [on the scouting scale] gives him the ability to get from first to third in a hurry and makes him a threat to steal a base -- or two -- every time he gets on." -- Christopher Crawford

2. Dee Gordon, Dodgers: "I would love to see a race between him and Hamilton." (Bowden)
3. Mike Trout, Angels
4. Jarrod Dyson, Royals
5. Ben Revere, Phillies

Honorable mention: Emilio Bonifacio, Jose Altuve, Rajai Davis.


Smartest baserunner

1. Jose Altuve, Houston Astros
"His intellect and incredible instincts on the bases have made him the best baserunner in the game." -- Jim Bowden


2. Jacoby Ellsbury, Yankees: "In addition to having plus-plus speed, Ellsbury reads pitchers extremely well. He also is one of the best at taking the extra base and understanding outfielders' strengths and weaknesses." (Crawford)
3. Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox
4. Jose Reyes, Blue Jays
5. Coco Crisp, Athletics: "It's worth noting he has the best stolen base percentage in A's history." (Bowden)

Honorable mention: Andrew McCutchen, Ben Revere, Mike Trout, Denard Span, Billy Hamilton, Dee Gordon.




sixthwi -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/15/2014 3:17:01 PM)

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From Insider

Our evaluation of the best tools in the game continues. On Wednesday, three MLB Insider talent evaluators -- Manny Acta, Jim Bowden and Christopher Crawford -- laid out the "best of the best" of the defensive tools. Today we look at hitting and baserunning tools.



Best hitting tool


1. Miguel Cabrera, Detroit Tigers
"He can handle every pitch and has the natural ability to always let his eyes tell him what to do with the ball. He doesn't get infield hits; he earns 'em by squaring up the ball. He's simply the best!" -- Manny Acta


2. Mike Trout, Angels
3. Robinson Cano, Mariners
4. Andrew McCutchen, Pirates
5. Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies

Honorable mention: Victor Martinez, Jose Altuve.


Best power hitter

1. Giancarlo Stanton, Miami Marlins
"I'm pretty sure he's the first player to break a scoreboard since Robert Redford did it in 'The Natural.'" -- Jim Bowden

2. Miguel Cabrera, Tigers: "Gets the nod here over guys with more raw power because it's not how far you hit 'em, it's how often." (Acta)
3. Edwin Encarnacion, Blue Jays
4. Mike Trout, Angels
5. Jose Abreu, White Sox

Honorable mention: Jose Bautista, Paul Goldschmidt, David Ortiz.


Best plate discipline


1. Joey Votto, Cincinnati Reds
"He sometimes is criticized for his lack of aggressiveness, but I find those critiques to be unjust. No hitter in baseball does a better job working counts into his favor than Votto does." -- Christopher Crawford

2. Jose Bautista, Blue Jays
3. Carlos Santana, Indians
4. Shin-Soo Choo, Rangers
5. Mike Napoli, Red Sox: "There's a reason he leads the majors in pitches per plate appearance." (Bowden)

Honorable mention: Mike Trout, Andrew McCutchen, Joe Mauer, Dustin Pedroia, Paul Goldschmidt.


Best 'bad-ball' hitter

1. Pablo Sandoval, San Francisco Giants
"There are newborns who have more patience than Sandoval does, though he does make hard contact on pitches outside the strike zone as well as any hitter in the game right now." -- Christopher Crawford


2. Victor Martinez, Tigers
3. Hunter Pence, Giants
4. Adrian Beltre, Rangers
5. Salvador Perez, Royals

Honorable mention: Jose Bautista, Billy Hamilton, Jose Altuve, Mark Trumbo, Jean Segura, Dustin Pedroia, Ichiro Suzuki.


Toughest hitter to strike out

1. Victor Martinez, Detroit Tigers
"Martinez has an amazing combination of strike zone knowledge and hand-eye coordination from both sides of the plate." -- Manny Acta


2. Ben Revere, Phillies: "Revere's swing is geared for contact, making him one of the toughest to get to swing and miss in baseball." (Crawford)
3. Michael Brantley, Indians
4. Jose Altuve, Astros: "He has that small frame, and he doesn't chase many bad pitches." (Bowden)
5. Robinson Cano, Mariners

Honorable mention: Jose Reyes, Denard Span, Albert Pujols, Ian Kinsler, Norichika Aoki.


Best 'small-ball' player


1. Erick Aybar, Los Angeles Angels
"Aybar does all the little things, and he enjoys doing them." -- Manny Acta

2. Jose Altuve, Astros: "Altuve simply does all the little things necessary to win games." (Crawford)
3. Brett Gardner, Yankees
4. Alcides Escobar, Royals
5. Jose Reyes, Blue Jays

Honorable mention: Martin Prado, Leonys Martin, Elvis Andrus, Everth Cabrera.


Fastest baserunner

1. Billy Hamilton, Cincinnati Reds
"His true 80 speed [on the scouting scale] gives him the ability to get from first to third in a hurry and makes him a threat to steal a base -- or two -- every time he gets on." -- Christopher Crawford

2. Dee Gordon, Dodgers: "I would love to see a race between him and Hamilton." (Bowden)
3. Mike Trout, Angels
4. Jarrod Dyson, Royals
5. Ben Revere, Phillies

Honorable mention: Emilio Bonifacio, Jose Altuve, Rajai Davis.


Smartest baserunner

1. Jose Altuve, Houston Astros
"His intellect and incredible instincts on the bases have made him the best baserunner in the game." -- Jim Bowden


2. Jacoby Ellsbury, Yankees: "In addition to having plus-plus speed, Ellsbury reads pitchers extremely well. He also is one of the best at taking the extra base and understanding outfielders' strengths and weaknesses." (Crawford)
3. Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox
4. Jose Reyes, Blue Jays
5. Coco Crisp, Athletics: "It's worth noting he has the best stolen base percentage in A's history." (Bowden)

Honorable mention: Andrew McCutchen, Ben Revere, Mike Trout, Denard Span, Billy Hamilton, Dee Gordon.




That list sucks - no Twins listed under best "small ball players" [X(]

[&:][&:][&:]




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/15/2014 3:18:58 PM)

Once again .... no Twins? [sm=scratch.gif]




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/15/2014 3:22:42 PM)

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Once again .... no Twins? [sm=scratch.gif]

Do you want Revere back?




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/15/2014 3:23:57 PM)

Denard Span is an honorable mention under "smartest baserunner."

The list just lost all credibility with me. [&:]




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/15/2014 3:26:32 PM)

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Once again .... no Twins? [sm=scratch.gif]

Do you want Revere back?

One of the few smart moves we HAVE made




sixthwi -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/15/2014 3:36:53 PM)

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Once again .... no Twins? [sm=scratch.gif]


Cuz was honorable mention for best plate discipline.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/15/2014 3:46:41 PM)

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Once again .... no Twins? [sm=scratch.gif]


Cuz was honorable mention for best plate discipline.

We made the list !!!!!!!!!!!!

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