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CPAMAN -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 9:38:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Sounds like ARods suspension will start Monday ...
but he'll be allowed to play while he appeals. [&o]


How can A-fraud appeal something it has been proven that he did?  What an asshole!  No way he should ever make the HOF.  In fact, all of his stats should be wiped clean.  Statistically speaking, he never played MLB. 




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 9:43:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Sounds like ARods suspension will start Monday ...
but he'll be allowed to play while he appeals. [&o]

He hit a HR in the minors yesterday.  Could be interesting to see if he helps the Yankees.




lylej -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 11:29:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Sounds like ARods suspension will start Monday ...
but he'll be allowed to play while he appeals. [&o]

He hit a HR in the minors yesterday.  Could be interesting to see if he helps the Yankees.


So Braun gets caught, and has to start serving his period of suspension immediately, but ARod gets to play on? Money Talks! Yankee World! East Coast Bias again....one reason I quite watching ESPN long ago!




sixthwi -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 11:48:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lylej

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Sounds like ARods suspension will start Monday ...
but he'll be allowed to play while he appeals. [&o]

He hit a HR in the minors yesterday.  Could be interesting to see if he helps the Yankees.


So Braun gets caught, and has to start serving his period of suspension immediately, but ARod gets to play on? Money Talks! Yankee World! East Coast Bias again....one reason I quite watching ESPN long ago!


Braun could have fought it too but he was smart enough to accept it now when the team has no chance for the playoffs anyway. He can come back at the start of next season.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 12:06:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lylej

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Sounds like ARods suspension will start Monday ...
but he'll be allowed to play while he appeals. [&o]

He hit a HR in the minors yesterday.  Could be interesting to see if he helps the Yankees.


So Braun gets caught, and has to start serving his period of suspension immediately, but ARod gets to play on? Money Talks! Yankee World! East Coast Bias again....one reason I quite watching ESPN long ago!



Yankees don't want ARod to play, then they have to pay.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 12:07:58 PM)

11:42am: Rosenthal reports that in addition to those names, Francisco Cervelli, Jesus Montero, Cesar Puello, Fautino De Los Santos, Fernando Martinez and Jordan Norberto have all accepted 50-game suspensions as well (Twitter links).

11:38am: Nelson Cruz will accept a 50-game suspension for his connection to the Biogenesis PED investigation, reports Bob Nightengale of USA Today (on Twitter). Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports tweets that in addition to Cruz, Jhonny Peralta and Everth Cabrera will accept suspensions. Rosenthal also adds new names to the mix, noting that Phillies left-hander Antonio Bastardo and Mets utility man Jordany Valdespin have accepted 50-game suspensions as well. Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports tweets that Astros lefty Sergio Escalona has been suspended as well.




Todd G -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 2:28:16 PM)

It's official. A-Rod gets suspended for 2013 & 2014 seasons. Suspension to begin on Thursday.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 2:33:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Todd G

It's official. A-Rod gets suspended for 2013 & 2014 seasons. Suspension to begin on Thursday.


Rodriguez filed an appeal, which will allow him to play for the Yankees until it is decided by an arbitrator -- likely to cover the remainder of the season. Rodriguez will claim as a first-time violator of the Joint Drug Agreement that he is being treated more harshly than due process should allow. MLB will argue that Rodriguez violated the JDA multiple times, including three years of PED use through the Biogenesis clinic (2010-12) as well as obstructing its investigation.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/news/20130805/alex-rodriguez-suspended-biogenesis-legacy/#ixzz2b7oCvSQt




Todd G -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 2:35:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: Todd G

It's official. A-Rod gets suspended for 2013 & 2014 seasons. Suspension to begin on Thursday.


Rodriguez filed an appeal, which will allow him to play for the Yankees until it is decided by an arbitrator -- likely to cover the remainder of the season. Rodriguez will claim as a first-time violator of the Joint Drug Agreement that he is being treated more harshly than due process should allow. MLB will argue that Rodriguez violated the JDA multiple times, including three years of PED use through the Biogenesis clinic (2010-12) as well as obstructing its investigation.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/news/20130805/alex-rodriguez-suspended-biogenesis-legacy/#ixzz2b7oCvSQt



Baseball is now a fraud.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 2:46:56 PM)

Why make it such a sideshow and distraction? Suspend ARod, agree if his suspension is ONLY this season,he's served it,move on. Else the whole thing.

No reason to allow a guy who WILL BE suspended one way or another, to play while appealing in this case. It's not like an appeal of a bean-ball/brawl incident.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 3:42:09 PM)

Fantastic round table right now on espn about DDay today ....
Olney, stark, others .... Incredibly honest talk about what's going on.
Finally some straight talk.
These type media guys know more than they let on about what and why these guys are taking stuff.
They're being honest today.




Todd G -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 3:46:48 PM)

They needed to just flat out ban A-Rod for life. Steroids will continue to be a stain on the integrity of the game until players face a real penalty for using them. Now you can use them, get paid, get suspended, come back and still get paid. There's no reason for them not to do it. Baseball management is just as culpable now as the users are.

It's all a fraud.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 3:51:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Todd G

They needed to just flat out ban A-Rod for life. Steroids will continue to be a stain on the integrity of the game until players face a real penalty for using them. Now you can use them, get paid, get suspended, come back and still get paid. There's no reason for them not to do it. Baseball management is just as culpable now as the users are.

It's all a fraud.

So why A-Roid for life but none of the others?  Braun only gets 60 meaningless games and A-Roid gets a life suspension?




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 3:52:35 PM)

Granville with some good contributions too
Talked about HR expectations for CFers going from 10 to 25 in a couple years.
(On teams who like HRs)

Olney .... Brady Anderson and cal Ripken stayed in a separate hotel from the rest of the team.
Whoa ... Do we have some other things being leaked today? [:-]
Was brought up when watching all the Yankees get on the bus in Chicago .... Except arod, who took a limo.




Todd G -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 3:53:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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ORIGINAL: Todd G

They needed to just flat out ban A-Rod for life. Steroids will continue to be a stain on the integrity of the game until players face a real penalty for using them. Now you can use them, get paid, get suspended, come back and still get paid. There's no reason for them not to do it. Baseball management is just as culpable now as the users are.

It's all a fraud.

So why A-Roid for life but none of the others?  Braun only gets 60 meaningless games and A-Roid gets a life suspension?


No, I agree, they should ban them all for life, but I think A-Rod was a gimme. That would have been the minimum acceptable penatly for me.

Braun is in the same boat at A-Rod.

They can't really do that though for the other players as it's goverened by the collective bargaining agreement. A-Rod they could get for his attempts to cover it up.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 4:03:59 PM)

Great point by Cowlishaw ....
Guys ripping Girardi for playing him ...
Cowlishaw says "if he doesn't, he's stuck sitting next to him for three hours, and who'd volunteer for that?" [&:]




Todd G -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 4:05:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Great point by Cowlishaw ....
Guys ripping Girardi for playing him ...
Cowlishaw says "if he doesn't, he's stuck sitting next to him for three hours, and who'd volunteer for that?" [&:]


Girardi want's to hear the Chicago White Sox fans rip into him just like everyone else.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 4:07:08 PM)

Yep

Put the blood IN the water


The round table was fascinated ... Has there ever been a player so disliked, even by his own org?
Reggie maybe?




Todd G -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 4:08:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Yep

Put the blood IN the water


The round table was fascinated ... Has there ever been a player so disliked, even by his own org?
Reggie maybe?


Not like this. Everyone hates Bonds . . . except the fans in SF, they still love the guy.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 4:16:53 PM)

Controversy in Boston
John Henry purchases the paper that covers his Sawks

What's new about that?
The Twins have owned the Stribs testicles forever.




Todd G -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 4:20:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Controversy in Boston
John Henry purchases the paper that covers his Sawks

What's new about that?
The Twins have owned the Stribs testicles forever.


What? They're afraid they're going to get MORE media coverage? Is that possible?




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 4:21:29 PM)

Cole De Vries on PEDs: "The guys who are trying to cheat are always trying to stay one step ahead of the guys who are trying to catch them."




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 4:24:03 PM)

http://extramustard.si.com/2013/08/05/new-york-yankees-alex-rodriguez-suspended-211-games/?sct=hp_bf3_a3&eref=sihp

Perkins note there, too.




John Childress -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 4:42:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: lylej

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Sounds like ARods suspension will start Monday ...
but he'll be allowed to play while he appeals. [&o]

He hit a HR in the minors yesterday.  Could be interesting to see if he helps the Yankees.


So Braun gets caught, and has to start serving his period of suspension immediately, but ARod gets to play on? Money Talks! Yankee World! East Coast Bias again....one reason I quite watching ESPN long ago!



Yankees don't want ARod to play, then they have to pay.

EXACTLY

MLB is unfair in their suspension of ARod

I don't even like the guy but you can't give him 3 times what cheater Braun go

It will never hold up in court




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/5/2013 4:44:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: John Childress

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: lylej

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Sounds like ARods suspension will start Monday ...
but he'll be allowed to play while he appeals. [&o]

He hit a HR in the minors yesterday.  Could be interesting to see if he helps the Yankees.


So Braun gets caught, and has to start serving his period of suspension immediately, but ARod gets to play on? Money Talks! Yankee World! East Coast Bias again....one reason I quite watching ESPN long ago!



Yankees don't want ARod to play, then they have to pay.

EXACTLY

MLB is unfair in their suspension of ARod

I don't even like the guy but you can't give him 3 times what cheater Braun go

It will never hold up in court


And court is where it is headed.

ARod loses to arbitrater? He goes to court.




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