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Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/3/2015 2:12:55 PM)

The BoSox greaser has option exercised

The Red Sox have exercised their club option over righty Clay Buchholz, the club announced. He’ll cost the club $13MM next year and also comes with one more season of control via option (at $13.5MM).

Buchholz, 31, endured a rough 2014 campaign but bounced back nicely last season, posting a 3.26 ERA over 113 1/3 innings with 8.5 K/9 against 1.8 BB/9. That performance largely made the option decision an easy one, except that — as the innings tally would indicate — the righty again experienced injury issues.



ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/3/2015 5:18:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

The BoSox greaser has option exercised

The Red Sox have exercised their club option over righty Clay Buchholz, the club announced. He’ll cost the club $13MM next year and also comes with one more season of control via option (at $13.5MM).

Buchholz, 31, endured a rough 2014 campaign but bounced back nicely last season, posting a 3.26 ERA over 113 1/3 innings with 8.5 K/9 against 1.8 BB/9. That performance largely made the option decision an easy one, except that — as the innings tally would indicate — the righty again experienced injury issues.


I get ill just looking at him. His hair is as disgusting as it gets. When him and Saltalamacchia were a battery it was tough to watch.

I think those two shampoo with Crisco.[sm=vomit.gif]



SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 9:34:09 AM)

Greinke out on the market.
TR getting his tire-kicking shoes on, I bet. [&o]

And here's where everyone will say ..... But but but he's expensive, and our salary cap, and it's scary, and .... And .....

Meanwhile one of the top feeders will pay him, he will once again be among the leagues best, and that top feeder will appreciate his work and move on. While we keep throwing out 32 year old reclamation projects who can't get thru four innings most nights.
Same old, same old.



drew -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 9:40:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Greinke out on the market.
TR getting his tire-kicking shoes on, I bet. [&o]

And here's where everyone will say ..... But but but he's expensive, and our salary cap, and it's scary, and .... And .....

Meanwhile one of the top feeders will pay him, he will once again be among the leagues best, and that top feeder will appreciate his work and move on. While we keep throwing out 32 year old reclamation projects who can't get thru four innings most nights.
Same old, same old.


If the Twins want to be serious contenders this upcoming year, they need to go get Greinke, Price, or Cueto. I think Greinke is the most realistic as he likes being in a small market. If we had an ACE, our rotation would all of a sudden look pretty good with Berrios coming along soon as well.

Now is the time to do that move. Our lineup is about to be really good. Go get an ace and show us you're really in this thing with the objective of winning. If the Twins are winning 90 games a year, TF will be packed every night and it'll pay for the contracts.



SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 9:44:09 AM)

Yup, he's the FIT for us.
Wants to toil and succeed in a small market. Check
Wants to pitch his innings and be left alone. Check
Quietly does his job, usually at or near best-in-the-league level. Check.

Screwed up last time he was available, and we will watch him disappear this time again.
And then we will whine for the next five years about having no leader of our pitching staff.
Lather
Rinse
Repeat



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 9:48:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Yup, he's the FIT for us.
Wants to toil and succeed in a small market. Check
Wants to pitch his innings and be left alone. Check
Quietly does his job, usually at or near best-in-the-league level. Check.

Screwed up last time he was available, and we will watch him disappear this time again.
And then we will whine for the next five years about having no leader of our pitching staff.
Lather
Rinse
Repeat


ERV is the man
PHILPANTS is the man

Don't need no stinkin' ace [;)]



SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 9:51:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Yup, he's the FIT for us.
Wants to toil and succeed in a small market. Check
Wants to pitch his innings and be left alone. Check
Quietly does his job, usually at or near best-in-the-league level. Check.

Screwed up last time he was available, and we will watch him disappear this time again.
And then we will whine for the next five years about having no leader of our pitching staff.
Lather
Rinse
Repeat


ERV is the man
PHILPANTS is the man

Don't need no stinkin' ace [;)]

Sadly, the Twins think that is what Aces look like.
Sadly, the Twins will never see how allowing types like those two, to be a two or a three or a four ..... Would make them/us so much better.



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 9:54:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Yup, he's the FIT for us.
Wants to toil and succeed in a small market. Check
Wants to pitch his innings and be left alone. Check
Quietly does his job, usually at or near best-in-the-league level. Check.

Screwed up last time he was available, and we will watch him disappear this time again.
And then we will whine for the next five years about having no leader of our pitching staff.
Lather
Rinse
Repeat


ERV is the man
PHILPANTS is the man

Don't need no stinkin' ace [;)]

Sadly, the Twins think that is what Aces look like.


Correct

Gibson is a #2/borderline ace
The new guy pitched like an ace
Berrios could be an ace at some point.

I don't see them going after starters, because of what you posted.



SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 9:57:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Yup, he's the FIT for us.
Wants to toil and succeed in a small market. Check
Wants to pitch his innings and be left alone. Check
Quietly does his job, usually at or near best-in-the-league level. Check.

Screwed up last time he was available, and we will watch him disappear this time again.
And then we will whine for the next five years about having no leader of our pitching staff.
Lather
Rinse
Repeat


ERV is the man
PHILPANTS is the man

Don't need no stinkin' ace [;)]

Sadly, the Twins think that is what Aces look like.


Correct

Gibson is a #2/borderline ace
The new guy pitched like an ace
Berrios could be an ace at some point.

I don't see them going after starters, because of what you posted.

We actually have some decent 2-3-4 options.
What's missing?

Yup.



MDK -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 10:22:41 AM)

There is no way TR would go after Price or Greinke....

We all know it and it is one of the main reasons it is sooooo frustrating to follow the Twins.

KC, a small market team, made some huge midseason acquisitions. Both cost them but it worked out.

Even if we didn't have Nolasco, Santana and Hughes signed for 2+ years, TR would still not pursue Price or Greinke.

He never will. It is not in his DNA.

Cueto stunk for the Royals in the regular season and that is what TR would see.....he wouldn't see that his 9 inning performance in a game the Royals had to have at home......he was a killer in that game. Price was key to Toronto getting to the playoffs but TR would focus in on Price's post season performances. In his mind, none of this front line pitchers would be worth the money.

But Greinke would immediately change the staff.....no doubt.

But we know it won't happen. Not on TR's watch.

Even with the young talent we have, I doubt that TR will ever see a WS as the GM for the Twins.



SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 11:06:42 AM)

Exactly my points Miles

Cueto did not help regular season
They paid for a couple really solid postseason showings, and I bet no one in KC regrets one dime.

All of you who think it doesn't matter having an ace ...
Think about the end of our regular season.
We were excited about maybe having an opp to play a one game playoff
We were all devastated to realize we had NO ONE we felt comfy with in that scenario
Greinke gives you a chance to advance. None of our current options would.
Once you advance and once you win it all, no one cares what it cost you.
Anyone bring up salaries at the parade yesterday? Doubt it.
As has been said, if you're gonna own a pro team, get IN or get the hell OUT.



SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 11:35:06 AM)

Please, Dodgers .... Hire Gardy.
I'd love to see that implosion.
He'd make "Bobby Vee in Boston" seem like a great idea.
If Donnie Baseball couldn't get it done there, no one will.
Place is ticking, the worst time bomb in baseball.

Mattingly on MLB Network this morning sounded like a guy released from death row.



sixthwi -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 11:57:18 AM)

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Please, Dodgers .... Hire Gardy.
I'd love to see that implosion.
He'd make "Bobby Vee in Boston" seem like a great idea.
If Donnie Baseball couldn't get it done there, no one will.
Place is ticking, the worst time bomb in baseball.

Mattingly on MLB Network this morning sounded like a guy released from death row.


But going to the Marlins? That may actually kill him.



SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 1:18:52 PM)

Some pretty decent young talent there.
Strong up the middle.
Couple good arms. Relief to get out of Dodger Blue.
Puigs gonna either be moved or get another manager fired.
Greinkes moving on. Couple oft-injured big contracts are gonna tie that mess up for years.



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 1:52:48 PM)

The White Sox have declined their $10MM club option on shortstop Alexei Ramirez, the team announced. Instead, Chicago will pay him a $1MM buyout.



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 1:53:24 PM)

Fresh off of their World Series triumph, the Royals will open their offseason by bidding adieu to outfielder Alex Rios and righty Jeremy Guthrie. The players officially became free agents today, per an MLBPA press release.



MDK -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 2:19:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Fresh off of their World Series triumph, the Royals will open their offseason by bidding adieu to outfielder Alex Rios and righty Jeremy Guthrie. The players officially became free agents today, per an MLBPA press release.


Rios got $11 million in 2015.

Guthrie had a $10M Team Option for 2016 with a $3.2M Buyout

That gives them some money to sign Gordon.

Still, they have the Omar Infante albatross contract around their neck....

$7,750,000 for 2016
$8,000,000 for 2017
option year in 2018 for *$10,000,000 with a $2M Buyout

Wonder how they could eat some of his contract, move him and sign Zobrist.

Maybe their dealings with Infante could provide inspiration in what the Twins could do with Mauer.

NAH......Mauer a Twin through 2018.

Maybe after the 2018, Mauer is done, TR steps down and the Twins have a real chance to do something in the playoffs.

Only 3 years to go.....maybe I'll make that my signature line.....only 3 years to go.



SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 2:27:46 PM)

Mets re-up Collns for two more years, oldest manager in the game.
Dodgers looking at Kirk Gibson to manage, even tho he was diagnosed with Parkinson's.

Hmmm, Gardy not exactly a hot commodity I guess. [:D]



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 2:37:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Mets re-up Collns for two more years, oldest manager in the game.
Dodgers looking at Kirk Gibson to manage, even tho he was diagnosed with Parkinson's.

Hmmm, Gardy not exactly a hot commodity I guess. [:D]


Gabe Kapler
Darin Erstad
Bud Black
Gibson

all mentioned as candidates.

Gardy can't even get a sniff there.



SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 2:39:29 PM)

Welcome back, mr Kotttttahhhhhhh

The leading candidate I hear. Been in the system.



MDK -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 2:53:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Mets re-up Collns for two more years, oldest manager in the game.
Dodgers looking at Kirk Gibson to manage, even tho he was diagnosed with Parkinson's.

Hmmm, Gardy not exactly a hot commodity I guess. [:D]



This could create a ton of Gardy Gibson comparison jokes but I just don't think it would be fair to Gibson to joke about his condition.

Nor is it nice to joke about Gardy and his disability........managerially impaired.



Trekgeekscott -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 3:36:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MDK

There is no way TR would go after Price or Greinke....



Too True.

But I don't care if he has to add $50 mil to the budget. I would go like gangbusters at signing both of them.



twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 3:38:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: MDK

There is no way TR would go after Price or Greinke....



Too True.

But I don't care if he has to add $50 mil to the budget. I would go like gangbusters at signing both of them.

Did TR kick your dog, Trekkie?



Steve Lentz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 3:50:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Mets re-up Collns for two more years, oldest manager in the game.
Dodgers looking at Kirk Gibson to manage, even tho he was diagnosed with Parkinson's.

Hmmm, Gardy not exactly a hot commodity I guess. [:D]


TR said they would be standing in line to hire Gardy?



Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (11/4/2015 4:42:33 PM)

Though each player just had his option exercised yesterday, Padres right-hander Joaquin Benoit and Brewers first baseman Adam Lind are both available in trade talks right now, tweets ESPN’s Buster Olney.

While the news isn’t necessarily unexpected, especially in Lind’s case, it could certainly have an impact on the offseason direction of multiple clubs. A team that acquires Lind in the near future — and it’s worth keeping in mind that he was traded from Toronto to Milwaukee on Nov. 1 last year, making a near-future deal plenty possible — would likely be plugging a hole at first base or designated hitter, thereby removing them from the free agent market at said positions. Clubs in possible need of first base/DH help could include the Pirates, Orioles, Rockies, Mariners, White Sox, Astros and A’s, depending on roster decisions made by each club early in the offseason.

Olney further tweets that catcher Jonathan Lucroy and closer Francisco Rodriguez “are available for trade talks” as well, as new Milwaukee GM David Stearns aims to make his team younger and build for the future. Any of the three Brewers players mentioned by Olney would have value to another team, with Lind controlled for one year at $8MM, Rodriguez owed $7.5MM this coming season (plus a $2MM buyout or $6MM club option for 2017) and Lucroy owed $4MM in 2016 (plus a $5.25MM club option for 2017).

As for Benoit, the Padres exercised a $7.5MM club option over him yesterday rather than paying a $1MM buyout. The 38-year-old is coming off three exceptionally strong seasons split between the Tigers and Padres, having worked to a 1.98 ERA with 9.6 K/9, 2.8 BB/9 and a 41.7 percent ground-ball rate.



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