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Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/9/2016 10:04:30 AM)

Tony Clark at camp:

"The draft-pick compensation concept is antiquated anyway. ... Seems to be causing issues on both sides of the equation."

on tweaking Cuban amateur process: "That is a four-way conversation. It's more than just a baseball conversation."

on protective netting being added over dugouts at Target Field, Fenway Park: "We’re glad that considerations are being made."

if Korean posting system could be brought more in line w/recently tweaked Japanese system -- more negotiating options. "We’re aware of considerations being discussed even as we speak that would be more reflective of that (Japanese) system."

quoted late union chief Michael Weiner on CBA goal: "Labor peace is never the focus. A fair and equitable deal is."

said clubhouse media access will NOT be an issue: "We have a lot of other issues. Literally it’s just not on the radar screen."




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/9/2016 11:33:30 AM)

Any of you guys watch a lot of MLBN?
I'll never understand how Mad Dog Russo keeps a job.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/9/2016 12:43:52 PM)

Hadn't thought of it this way ....
Greinke will make $1mil PER START. [:-]




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/9/2016 12:46:50 PM)

Aaron Hicks looking good against DeGrom today.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/9/2016 12:48:39 PM)

Good for Hicks.

I see the Orioles are going to try and slug their way through the season with the Alvarez signing.

Going to be a lot of dingers and K's at Camden this year.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/9/2016 12:52:03 PM)

Headley appears to be a nice fit as well for the Yanks.




CPAMAN -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/9/2016 5:29:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Hadn't thought of it this way ....
Greinke will make $1mil PER START. [:-]


That is simply repulsive. Assuming the average price of a ticket is $40 (and that is not a high estimate), each Greinke start requires 25,000 paid fans in attendance to pay for his start. Sure the teams make money elsewhere, but when you have 25 other players on the roster, coaches, the manager, field support staff, office and administrative staff, how can any team justify this nonsense?




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/9/2016 5:44:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Hadn't thought of it this way ....
Greinke will make $1mil PER START. [:-]


That is simply repulsive. Assuming the average price of a ticket is $40 (and that is not a high estimate), each Greinke start requires 25,000 paid fans in attendance to pay for his start. Sure the teams make money elsewhere, but when you have 25 other players on the roster, coaches, the manager, field support staff, office and administrative staff, how can any team justify this nonsense?

Doesn't work that way. Are you guys saying his practice time, bullpen throwing, travel time, meetings, etc. are non-working days? He's supposed to do those things for free?




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/9/2016 11:25:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Hadn't thought of it this way ....
Greinke will make $1mil PER START. [:-]


That is simply repulsive. Assuming the average price of a ticket is $40 (and that is not a high estimate), each Greinke start requires 25,000 paid fans in attendance to pay for his start. Sure the teams make money elsewhere, but when you have 25 other players on the roster, coaches, the manager, field support staff, office and administrative staff, how can any team justify this nonsense?

Doesn't work that way. Are you guys saying his practice time, bullpen throwing, travel time, meetings, etc. are non-working days? He's supposed to do those things for free?



Hey, don't yell at me.
Yell at Ron Darling.
He's the one who pointed it out to me. [:D]




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/10/2016 8:35:38 AM)

One scout in attendance has Jered Weaver topping out at 80 mph in two innings today. He threw a 78-mph fastball Austin Barnes hit for a HR.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/10/2016 3:34:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

One scout in attendance has Jered Weaver topping out at 80 mph in two innings today. He threw a 78-mph fastball Austin Barnes hit for a HR.

Whoa.
Not ML-worthy, my friend ...




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/10/2016 7:43:49 PM)

Make no mistake about it, Bryce Harper is fed up with baseball's unwritten rules. And emboldened by a season where he was unanimously awarded the National League MVP, the Washington Nationals star is ready to unleash on those restraints like he does on a fastball left up over the middle of the plate.

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In a lengthy profile written by ESPN The Magazine's Tim Keown, Harper takes on the code that keeps players from showing their emotions:

"Baseball's tired," he says. "It's a tired sport, because you can't express yourself. You can't do what people in other sports do. I'm not saying baseball is, you know, boring or anything like that, but it's the excitement of the young guys who are coming into the game now who have flair. If that's Matt Harvey or Jacob deGrom or Manny Machado or Joc Pederson or Andrew McCutchen or Yasiel Puig – there's so many guys in the game now who are so much fun.

"Jose Fernandez is a great example. Jose Fernandez will strike you out and stare you down into the dugout and pump his fist. And if you hit a homer and pimp it? He doesn't care. Because you got him. That's part of the game. It's not the old feeling – hoorah ... if you pimp a homer, I'm going to hit you right in the teeth. No. If a guy pimps a homer for a game-winning shot ... I mean – sorry."

"If a guy pumps his fist at me on the mound, I'm going to go, 'Yeah, you got me. Good for you. Hopefully I get you next time.' That's what makes the game fun. You want kids to play the game, right? What are kids playing these days? Football, basketball. Look at those players – Steph Curry, LeBron James. It's exciting to see those players in those sports. Cam Newton – I love the way Cam goes about it. He smiles, he laughs. It's that flair. The dramatic."
There are plenty of other great anecdotes about Harper in the story, particularly from his days before he was a MLB superstar, but let's zero in on what he said above about baseball's lack of self expression. What Harper's talking about has been the subject of discussion around here for a good while now.


Harper is polarizing because he dares step out of that box on occasion. We demand that athletes care – so much so that perceived lack of effort is punished as one of the worst sports crimes – but when an athlete cares so much that their reaction to a big moment in a game is to celebrate? Don't care that much. And Harper's right, that sentiment is even more prevalent in baseball than it is in other sports. It's especially infuriating because what's fair game and what isn't is unbelievably arbitrary. In many cases, the divide is brought on by generational and culturue differences.

Baseball would be more fun if it was played Bryce Harper's way. And if anyone can engender change in a sport where progress isn't always a priority, it's got to be Harper.


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/bryce-harper-laments-lack-of-self-expression-in-baseball-151201285.html




CPAMAN -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/12/2016 6:34:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: CPAMAN

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Hadn't thought of it this way ....
Greinke will make $1mil PER START. [:-]


That is simply repulsive. Assuming the average price of a ticket is $40 (and that is not a high estimate), each Greinke start requires 25,000 paid fans in attendance to pay for his start. Sure the teams make money elsewhere, but when you have 25 other players on the roster, coaches, the manager, field support staff, office and administrative staff, how can any team justify this nonsense?

Doesn't work that way. Are you guys saying his practice time, bullpen throwing, travel time, meetings, etc. are non-working days? He's supposed to do those things for free?


You know what we are talking about here Matt. A top-end starting pitcher has "at most" 33 and maybe 34 starts in a season assuming no injuries and they start the first game of the season, do not miss a start during the entire season, and pitch right up to the end of the season with no September call-ups taking a start from them. Ultimately, they play in about 20% of all games played for the season. Very few pitchers these days win 20 games in a season. And despite what Dustin says, you are paying a starting pitcher to WIN GAMES when they start, not put your team in a position to win or be involved in a tie game when they leave the in the 7th or 8th inning. This was simply stupid money spent on a pitcher who isn't that great. Greinke is a very good pitcher, but he is not Nolan Ryan, Tom Seaver, Tom Glavine, Greg Maddux type good. Shame on teams for paying pitchers the money that they do. It is absolutely ridiculous! [X(]




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/13/2016 8:18:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

One scout in attendance has Jered Weaver topping out at 80 mph in two innings today. He threw a 78-mph fastball Austin Barnes hit for a HR.

Whoa.
Not ML-worthy, my friend ...



Los Angeles Angels pitcher Jered Weaver will visit a spine specialist on Monday after being diagnosed with mild degenerative changes in his cervical spine, reports Mike DiGiovanni of the Los Angeles Times.

Weaver, 33, was limited in spring training action last week after dealing with stiffness in his neck. An MRI on Thursday revealed the condition in his spine.

He will be scratched from his scheduled start on Monday, but the team is not that concerned about him moving forward.

"It's not alarming because Jered is not in a lot of pain," General Manager Billy Eppler said to the Times. "It's more like a stiffness that has limited his range of motion."

The team has not considered surgery moving forward, and hopes to find a proper treatment program after the specialist can look at Weaver’s neck.




Stacey King -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/14/2016 3:39:07 PM)

Buck: Wieters' MRI "looked good structurally."




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/14/2016 3:41:51 PM)

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Buck: Wieters' MRI "looked good structurally."


About the only thing w/Baltimore that has looked good this spring.




Stacey King -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/14/2016 3:45:11 PM)

Happy Pi Day to all

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Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/14/2016 4:12:11 PM)

More trouble for LAA


Angels lefty C.J. Wilson suffered another setback in his recovery from shoulder pain, and his status for the first month or two of the season is “in question,” reports Mike DiGiovanna of the Los Angeles Times. Wilson felt discomfort in his shoulder after a bullpen session on Saturday and will only play catch on flat ground for the time being. A date hasn’t been set for another bullpen session, per manager Mike Scioscia, who simply said, “He’ll be ready when he’s ready.” Wilson is slated to earn $20MM this season in the final year of a five-year, $77.5MM contract signed prior to the 2012 season. His 2015 season came to an end when he underwent surgery to remove bone spurs in his elbow.




Stacey King -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/14/2016 4:45:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

More trouble for LAA


Angels lefty C.J. Wilson suffered another setback in his recovery from shoulder pain, and his status for the first month or two of the season is “in question,” reports Mike DiGiovanna of the Los Angeles Times. Wilson felt discomfort in his shoulder after a bullpen session on Saturday and will only play catch on flat ground for the time being. A date hasn’t been set for another bullpen session, per manager Mike Scioscia, who simply said, “He’ll be ready when he’s ready.” Wilson is slated to earn $20MM this season in the final year of a five-year, $77.5MM contract signed prior to the 2012 season. His 2015 season came to an end when he underwent surgery to remove bone spurs in his elbow.




They have by most experts account either the 29th or 30th ranked org for Prospects as well.

They are in rough shape maybe even right now but definitively for the future.

Trout is the best and Garret Richards is a great pitcher but the future does not look bright for Mr. Arte Moreno




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/15/2016 6:26:58 AM)

Giants starter Johnny Cueto was hit in the head on a Billy Burns liner on the first pitch of his outing Monday night, according to various reporters, including the San Francisco Chronicle’s Henry Schulman. Cueto stayed in the game and pitched three innings, but was checked by team doctors after pitching and will head to the hospital in accordance with team protocol (Twitter links). One would think the Giants would have removed Cueto from the game after the incident if they had considered the issue serious (acknowledging, of course, that pro sports teams have at times underestimated the impact of potential concussions). There would have been no reason for the Giants to keep Cueto in a Spring Training game if they had any indication he was hurt. Still, the situation bears monitoring.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/15/2016 6:40:50 AM)

The scout shook his head, delivering a two-word report on Dodgers pitcher Scott Kazmir.

"No bueno," the scout said.

For the last two years, Kazmir's fastball has averaged 91 mph, according to Fangraphs. On Monday, his fastball sat in the 86-89 mph range. The last time his fastball was so slow, in 2011, the results were so bad that the Angels released him, and it took him two years to recover the arm strength necessary to return to the major leagues.

After Kazmir posted a 17.18 earned-run average in his first two Cactus League starts, with opponents batting .571, the Dodgers used him in the controlled environment of a B game against the Chicago White Sox on Monday.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/15/2016 5:03:28 PM)

Adam LaRoche bails on the White Sox.
Retires.
Won't break my heart.
The kind of guy who hit big ones against us.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/15/2016 8:15:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Adam LaRoche bails on the White Sox.
Retires.
Won't break my heart.
The kind of guy who hit big ones against us.


I'd bet they figgered on that, one reason they chased down Frazier.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/16/2016 10:57:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Adam LaRoche bails on the White Sox.
Retires.
Won't break my heart.
The kind of guy who hit big ones against us.


I'd bet they figgered on that, one reason they chased down Frazier.

The White Sox are gonna be tough.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (3/16/2016 10:58:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

The scout shook his head, delivering a two-word report on Dodgers pitcher Scott Kazmir.

"No bueno," the scout said.

For the last two years, Kazmir's fastball has averaged 91 mph, according to Fangraphs. On Monday, his fastball sat in the 86-89 mph range. The last time his fastball was so slow, in 2011, the results were so bad that the Angels released him, and it took him two years to recover the arm strength necessary to return to the major leagues.

After Kazmir posted a 17.18 earned-run average in his first two Cactus League starts, with opponents batting .571, the Dodgers used him in the controlled environment of a B game against the Chicago White Sox on Monday.


TR's head just perked up.




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