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Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/19/2016 8:13:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Chapman hit 105 on the gun last night. [:-]
Several more times, over 100.


And that delivery is so smooth. 105 without a ton of effort..it seems.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/19/2016 8:18:49 AM)

[&:]
Was going to elaborate on the exact same thing
Liveliest arm I've ever seen. It just explodes out of the hand.
Effortless looking ... and BAM its by you.
Still think that night in Cinncy when we got to him ... was a career highlight for a couple of our guys.
Willingham and Mauer, if I remember correctly. Great at-bats.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/19/2016 8:19:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

[&:]
Was going to elaborate on the exact same thing
Liveliest arm I've ever seen. It just explodes out of the hand.
Effortless looking ... and BAM its by you.
Still think that night in Cinncy when we got to him ... was a career highlight for a couple of our guys.
Willingham and Mauer, if I remember correctly. Great at-bats.


Yep. those were the 2. About the last time Joe accepted a challenge.

What a fall off the cliff he's been.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/19/2016 8:21:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

[&:]
Was going to elaborate on the exact same thing
Liveliest arm I've ever seen. It just explodes out of the hand.
Effortless looking ... and BAM its by you.
Still think that night in Cinncy when we got to him ... was a career highlight for a couple of our guys.
Willingham and Mauer, if I remember correctly. Great at-bats.


Yep. those were the 2. About the last time Joe accepted a challenge.

What a fall off the cliff he's been.

Really thought around that time he was on his way to being THE GUY we expected.
Like when Morneaus rocket off the 100 mph cheese in Detroit sent him on to better things.
Nope.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/19/2016 8:44:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

[&:]
Was going to elaborate on the exact same thing
Liveliest arm I've ever seen. It just explodes out of the hand.
Effortless looking ... and BAM its by you.
Still think that night in Cinncy when we got to him ... was a career highlight for a couple of our guys.
Willingham and Mauer, if I remember correctly. Great at-bats.


Yep. those were the 2. About the last time Joe accepted a challenge.

What a fall off the cliff he's been.

You guys are really finding a way to turn everything down an anti-Mauer road, no matter the original subject. [&:]




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/19/2016 8:56:42 AM)

???
Now I'm gonna play the ... "Me? I was praising him, duh!" card.
And ... I was.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/19/2016 8:59:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

???
Now I'm gonna play the ... "Me? I was praising him, duh!" card.
And ... I was.


Yeah, it was all me. Joe sucks. And it's getting worse. [:D]




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/19/2016 9:03:54 AM)

No, I know what he means ... but hasn't he declined every day since?
That's not bashing, that's truth.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/19/2016 9:11:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

No, I know what he means ... but hasn't he declined every day since?
That's not bashing, that's truth.



June 25 2012 is when it happened.

Joe hit .319, slugged .446.
10 homers
31 doubles.
147 games

The end was 2013

113 games 35 doubles 11 HRs, .324/.slg .476

'14 120 games 27 doubles 4 homers .277, SLG .371
'15 34 doubles 10 hrs .265 SLG .380

and he's at .265 in 87 games this year. But 9 doubles/7HRs slg .371

go back through the stats. 28 HRs in the salary drive year. Hit .365
next best? 13


So....was it the salary drive?

Something else?


Year before hit .328, that's's 3rd best ever for him, .347 with 26 doubles and the 13 hrs in 2006




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/19/2016 9:46:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

???
Now I'm gonna play the ... "Me? I was praising him, duh!" card.
And ... I was.


Yeah, it was all me. Joe sucks. And it's getting worse. [:D]

But it looked like SMF was setting it on a tee for you.[8|]




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/19/2016 2:06:52 PM)

Matt Eddy of Baseball America reports that the Giants have signed pitcher Kyle Drabek to a minor league deal. The club intends to convert him into a shortstop. Eddy adds that the Giants also haven’t ruled out Drabek returning to pitching at some point.

Drabek, 28, was released near the end of June by the Diamondbacks. He was originally drafted in the first round — 18th overall — by the Phillies in the 2006 draft. A few years later, the club sent him along with Michael Taylor and Travis d'Arnaud to the Blue Jays in the Roy Halladay trade.

Drabek couldn’t find any success in the major leagues, compiling a 5.26 ERA with an even more disappointing 123/117 K/BB ratio over 179 2/3 career innings. He is the son of former Cy Young Award winner Doug Drabek.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/20/2016 9:15:19 PM)

Texas Rangers first baseman Prince Fielder could miss the rest of the season due to a herniated disc in his neck, according to TR Sullivan of MLB.com.

Fielder will undergo further testing and should know more about his status on Friday. He underwent an MRI on Tuesday. He previously underwent neck surgery on May 27, 2014 and missed the rest of that season.




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/21/2016 6:05:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

[&:]
Was going to elaborate on the exact same thing

Liveliest arm I've ever seen. It just explodes out of the hand.
Effortless looking ... and BAM its by you.
Still think that night in Cinncy when we got to him ... was a career highlight for a couple of our guys.
Willingham and Mauer, if I remember correctly. Great at-bats.


Yep. those were the 2. About the last time Joe accepted a challenge.

What a fall off the cliff he's been.

Really thought around that time he was on his way to being THE GUY we expected.
Like when Morneaus rocket off the 100 mph cheese in Detroit sent him on to better things.
Nope.

I remember that Morneau shot like it was yesterday. Didn't think it was ever going to come down. But I think it was only a few rows deep.

That was off Zumaya. Lost all respect for that dude when he signed here, threw a bullpen session, tore his UCL, and walked away with what, a couple hundred grand? There's little doubt in my mind he was already injured when he signed, but found a sucker to give him one last paycheck. Embarrassing moment for Ryan. Among many.




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/21/2016 6:29:43 AM)

Just looked it up. Zumaya got $400,000 from us for one bullpen session.




ewen21 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/21/2016 7:59:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Black 47

I remember that Morneau shot like it was yesterday. Didn't think it was ever going to come down. But I think it was only a few rows deep.

That was off Zumaya. Lost all respect for that dude when he signed here, threw a bullpen session, tore his UCL, and walked away with what, a couple hundred grand? There's little doubt in my mind he was already injured when he signed, but found a sucker to give him one last paycheck. Embarrassing moment for Ryan. Among many.


Line drive right down the line. I think that was the day game in Detroit where we came back?




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/21/2016 8:47:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ewen21

quote:

ORIGINAL: Black 47

I remember that Morneau shot like it was yesterday. Didn't think it was ever going to come down. But I think it was only a few rows deep.

That was off Zumaya. Lost all respect for that dude when he signed here, threw a bullpen session, tore his UCL, and walked away with what, a couple hundred grand? There's little doubt in my mind he was already injured when he signed, but found a sucker to give him one last paycheck. Embarrassing moment for Ryan. Among many.


Line drive right down the line. I think that was the day game in Detroit where we came back?


http://espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=260809106

http://espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=260809106

clear in the weather conditions usually indicates a night game. 19th win for Johan, 36th save for Nathan.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/21/2016 8:54:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Texas Rangers first baseman Prince Fielder could miss the rest of the season due to a herniated disc in his neck, according to TR Sullivan of MLB.com.

Fielder will undergo further testing and should know more about his status on Friday. He underwent an MRI on Tuesday. He previously underwent neck surgery on May 27, 2014 and missed the rest of that season.


Detroit won that trade in a landslide




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/21/2016 1:42:19 PM)

The White Sox appear to have reversed course in the midst of a significant slump, as Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports that the club is now poised to sell off veteran pieces this summer (Twitter links). The Sox intend to keep their rotation intact — taking Chris Sale, Jose Quintana and presumably Carson Fulmer and Carlos Rodon off the table, much to the chagrin of interested parties — and are intent on holding onto top shortstop prospect Tim Anderson as well. Other than that, however, Nightengale suggests that the rest of the roster is “in play.”

Optimistic fans will likely take the report and try to come up with ways in which the potentially selling Sox could be overwhelmed to part with Sale or Quintana, but FOX’s Ken Rosenthal emphasizes (via Twitter) that Sale won’t be moved, reporting that an unnamed team is said to have offered Chicago a “king’s ransom” for its ace within the past 48 hours, only to be met with a flat “no.” Another rival executive tells Rosenthal that teams have been asking for Quintana in trades for years, and the Sox have steadfastly refused (Twitter link).

Nightengale’s report is fairly surprising, as it suggests that Sox will at least entertain the notion of trading outfielder Adam Eaton, who has become one of baseball’s biggest bargains thanks to his elite all-around play and affordable contract. Eaton is hitting .271/.353/.393 with five homers, 11 steals and exceptional defense in right field, and he’s guaranteed just $21MM through the 2019 season (plus two options valued at $9.5MM and $10.5MM for the 2020 and 2021 campaigns). FanRag’s Jon Heyman reported earlier this morning that the Sox have already been receiving calls on Eaton, although I have to imagine that the asking price on him would be exorbitant.

Slugging first baseman Jose Abreu, too, would be a consideration under such criteria. He’s had a bit of a down season overall, slashing .266/.323/.423 but has turned things around at the plate dating back to June 1 (.299/.349/.478). He’s owed $38.04MM through the end of the 2019 season, including the remainder of this year’s salary, though his contract allows him to opt into arbitration following the 2016 season if he wishes.

Heyman also reported this morning that closer David Robertson is receiving quite a bit of attention on the trade market as clubs look to acquire impact relievers. While Robertson’s 4.03 ERA on this season is a departure from his normal excellence, he’s been clobbered for 10 of his 17 earned runs in just two of his 37 appearances this season but has been largely effective outside of those hiccups. He’s owed $29.45MM through the end of the 2018 season and is still averaging 10.7 strikeouts per nine innings, though he’s also averaging 4.9 walks in that same stretch as well. Both Nate Jones and Dan Jennings are having strong seasons and come with three-plus years affordable control (Jones via a three-year, $8MM extension with a pair of club options and Jennings via arbitration). Jones’ strong season and considerable control could make him tough to surrender, though.

Beyond those long-term assets, the South Siders have several other short-term and mid-term assets that are controllable through the end of the 2017 campaign as well as a few rentals. Todd Frazier, Brett Lawrie, Melky Cabrera and Zach Duke are each free agents at the end of the 2017 season, while Dioner Navarro, Alex Avila and Justin Morneau are free agents following the current season. Frazier is tied for the Major League lead with 28 homers and is due an arbitration raise on his $8.25MM salary, while Lawrie has been about league-average at the plate and will get a bump from his $4.125MM salary. Cabrera has quietly been quite solid at the plate dating back to June 1 of last season, hitting .294/.338/.456 with 20 homers in 827 plate appearances, but the remaining $20.66MM on his deal is fairly steep. Duke is owed about $7.52MM from now through the end of his own contract and has logged a 2.97 ERA with 10.5 K/9, 3.8 BB/9 and a 58.1 percent ground-ball rate this year.

The change in course is a fairly surprising turn of events for a White Sox team that just last month proactively sprung to add James Shields in a trade with the Padres (Shields has righted the ship after a pair of early implosions with Chicago) and also added Justin Morneau while shedding Jimmy Rollins to open shortstop for Anderson. That series of win-now moves hasn’t changed the club’s fortunes, though, leading to a potentially uncharacteristic sell-off from a Sox club that is typically loath to do so. Owner Jerry Reinsdorf has long been said to be against such sales, and indeed, the Sox chose to hold onto the majority of their pieces last summer in spite of an opportunity to ship out veteran pieces, most notably Jeff Samardzija.

It remains, of course, far from clear that the Sox will clean house in any way. The very fact that they’re insistent in holding onto Sale, Quintana, etc. suggests they intend to aim for better results as soon as the 2017 season. As such, major dealings shouldn’t necessarily be the expectation, but the very fact that the Sox are open to the idea represents a rather significant philosophical change from where the team stood four to six weeks ago.




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/21/2016 3:25:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ewen21

quote:

ORIGINAL: Black 47

I remember that Morneau shot like it was yesterday. Didn't think it was ever going to come down. But I think it was only a few rows deep.

That was off Zumaya. Lost all respect for that dude when he signed here, threw a bullpen session, tore his UCL, and walked away with what, a couple hundred grand? There's little doubt in my mind he was already injured when he signed, but found a sucker to give him one last paycheck. Embarrassing moment for Ryan. Among many.


Line drive right down the line. I think that was the day game in Detroit where we came back?

Wrong and wrong. [:D]

It was a night game, and the HR was a towering shot that hung in the air forever, and I'm pretty sure it was only a few rows deep.

That was a pretty awesome run, only to be ruined by the gm ignoring gaping holes in the rotation and at DH and making no trade deadline acquisitions.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/21/2016 3:45:59 PM)

Do the Royals really have a less than 1% chance of winning the World Series?

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-mlb-predictions/?ex_cid=rrpromo




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/21/2016 4:10:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Black 47

quote:

ORIGINAL: ewen21

quote:

ORIGINAL: Black 47

I remember that Morneau shot like it was yesterday. Didn't think it was ever going to come down. But I think it was only a few rows deep.

That was off Zumaya. Lost all respect for that dude when he signed here, threw a bullpen session, tore his UCL, and walked away with what, a couple hundred grand? There's little doubt in my mind he was already injured when he signed, but found a sucker to give him one last paycheck. Embarrassing moment for Ryan. Among many.


Line drive right down the line. I think that was the day game in Detroit where we came back?

Wrong and wrong. [:D]

It was a night game, and the HR was a towering shot that hung in the air forever, and I'm pretty sure it was only a few rows deep.

That was a pretty awesome run, only to be ruined by the gm ignoring gaping holes in the rotation and at DH and making no trade deadline acquisitions.


I remember it was a night game ..
And I thought the ball damn near left the stadium.
It was the old Ron Davis Theory
...
What comes in straight and fast ... leaves faster




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/21/2016 5:10:59 PM)

Strasburg finally loses one.
Nats 1-5 vs the Dodgers this year




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/23/2016 5:37:23 PM)

Chris Sale, scratched by #WhiteSox today, is not believed to be ill, according to two sources.

The Rangers are “making [a] serious effort” to pry Sale loose from the White Sox, according to MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan (via Twitter). Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News reported recently that the two teams were already chatting about Sale (and Quintana, too) before it became apparent that Chicago was leaning toward selling.




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/24/2016 8:36:59 AM)

Sale is 71-43 in his career and entered the day leading the majors with 133 innings pitched and three complete games.

In his last outing Monday, Sale allowed one hit over eight shutout innings before closer David Robertson gave up four runs in the ninth in Chicago's loss to Seattle.


Talk about utter insanity. 8 shutout one hit innings, and they pulled him from the game. The cookbook just kills me.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/25/2016 8:49:07 AM)

Asshole didn't like throwback unis so he "cut them up"
Glad they suspended the entitled prick.
Should be longer.




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