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Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/8/2016 6:20:14 PM)

Matt you ever been to PNC?




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/8/2016 6:55:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Black 47

Matt you ever been to PNC?

Not yet. Ask me again in a month. [8|]




McMurfy -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/9/2016 1:31:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Bob Costas lists his Top 5 ballparks, in no particular order, as:

Fenway
Wrigley
PNC
AT&T
Camden




Fenway and Wrigley need no defense.
AT&T is spectactular due to the city around it.

Camden was the blueprint for all "New" parks

PNC benefits from the three rivers near it.

Target, while great, is a "me too" park.

I'm OK with his list




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/9/2016 8:42:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: McMurfy

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Bob Costas lists his Top 5 ballparks, in no particular order, as:

Fenway
Wrigley
PNC
AT&T
Camden




Fenway and Wrigley need no defense.
AT&T is spectactular due to the city around it.

Camden was the blueprint for all "New" parks

PNC benefits from the three rivers near it.

Target, while great, is a "me too" park.

I'm OK with his list

Me too.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/11/2016 7:27:29 PM)

My God these Padre-inspired unis are HIDEOUS

Poop brown and calf-shit yellow ... whats not to like?




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/11/2016 7:59:35 PM)

Stanton hits 24 in one round ... and almost hit one 500 feet [:-][:-]




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/11/2016 10:10:05 PM)

Stanton wins it with a Maris.




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/11/2016 10:14:28 PM)

Anybody listen to Common ridiculing Ben Zobrist's whiny comments today about the Cubs "grueling" schedule is unfair to fans? I swear, in the sports world, baseball players are the most pathetic. They hit the ball. They run around the bases. They stand out in the field. They have a five month offseason. And somehow we're supposed to feel sorry for them.

Like Cuddyer said, the average Joe doesn't know how hard it is. How ironic that Cuddyer, Zobrist, and this entire league of wussies have never worked a real job in their life. Yet we're the ones who don't understand THEIR pain?




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/11/2016 10:38:19 PM)

Ridiculous to think its too much for them.
Hockey FB, and even Basketball guys get beat up.
Baseball players chase butterflies most days.
Suck it up SALLY.

Cubs last 20 games were the worst in baseball.
Looking for excuses.
Had liked Zobrist. Now I think he's a whiny pussy.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/12/2016 5:32:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Ridiculous to think its too much for them.
Hockey FB, and even Basketball guys get beat up.
Baseball players chase butterflies most days.
Suck it up SALLY.

Cubs last 20 games were the worst in baseball.
Looking for excuses.
Had liked Zobrist. Now I think he's a whiny pussy.



Really pulling for someone...anyone...to knock the Cubs out.

Please.

More of the self-righteous woe is us/me-first mentality that is too engrained in athletics.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/12/2016 8:22:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Black 47

Anybody listen to Common ridiculing Ben Zobrist's whiny comments today about the Cubs "grueling" schedule is unfair to fans? I swear, in the sports world, baseball players are the most pathetic. They hit the ball. They run around the bases. They stand out in the field. They have a five month offseason. And somehow we're supposed to feel sorry for them.

Like Cuddyer said, the average Joe doesn't know how hard it is. How ironic that Cuddyer, Zobrist, and this entire league of wussies have never worked a real job in their life. Yet we're the ones who don't understand THEIR pain?

I heard it. I don't miss much of The Progrum. [8|]

What was it?...he was complaining that the Cubs didn't have an off day for 20 straight days or something. WAAAAHHHHH!!




MDK -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/12/2016 10:15:35 AM)

My hope for the NL Central is that the Pirates continue to stay hot and the Cubs struggle after the all star break but the cubs have way too much talent to go completely into the dumper. So my next hope if for the Cubs, despite all this talent and great front office and manager, always get close but never ever win a WS. If Zobrist is a whiny pussy, it just matches up with the Cub fans. Cub fans used to be great. Than the rich yuppies invaded Wrigley Field and the fan base changed. The one good thing about the White Sox winning it all in 2005, they won before the Cubs did.

I really really like the Pirates. And the Pirates, unlike the old Padres uniforms, make use of yellow for their uniforms in a good way rather than the piss yellow and sh** brown of the old Padres uniforms.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/12/2016 10:32:16 AM)

Any discussion of Wilson Ramos’ offensive breakthrough this season naturally begins with the obvious: his eyes.
Ramos had LASIK surgery in March after his annual spring training exam suggested his vision could be improved. And almost instantaneously, the 28-year-old catcher began seeing the ball like never before. Those sliders off the plate he used to flail helplessly at now are clear as day, so he just lets them go by, waiting instead for a pitch over the plate he can hit.
But ask Ramos the biggest reason for his breakthrough - a .330 batting average, .918 OPS and his first career All-Star selection - and you’ll get a different answer.
“I believe the biggest factor was the work I put in during the offseason,” he said through interpreter Octavio Martinez. “I really worked hard to make sure I was healthy. It’s one of those things I think I’m going to stay consistent with my work that I did this offseason because it’s helped tremendously to stay on the field. Obviously the LASIK surgery helped out quite a bit, helping me recognize pitches. But the work I did this offseason is the big thing.”
And the fact that work was done here in the United States, not Ramos’ native Venezuela, with his family staying with him throughout the offseason thanks to some behind-the-scenes work by the Nationals front office, may have played just as significant a role as anything.

Ramos used to spend most of his winters in Venezuela because family members weren’t free to come and go to the United States as they pleased. Given the violence and constant sense of uncertainty for those living there, the catcher couldn’t help but spend much of his time making sure they were safe and secure, not to mention making sure he was as well.
That’s not an ideal way to prepare for an upcoming baseball season, your time and attention split between work and family. So with the assistance of the Nationals, most notably Harolyn Cardozo (general manager Mike Rizzo’s longtime special assistant for major league administration), Ramos was able to secure visitors visas for several family members, a complex process that ultimately ensured he could spend his offseason with loved ones by his side.
“It definitely helped me out, especially emotionally I’ve been more relaxed and at peace in the offseason just focusing on what I had to do,” Ramos said. “The other offseasons, as soon as the season would finish, I would go back to Venezuela, try to spend time with my family. And the resources down there are obviously not the same as we have here. So it makes it a little more difficult to do the things I had to do to stay ready for the long season. But having them here, I’m able to do both, work and focus on my job at hand as well as enjoy time with my family, which has made a big difference. I just feel more relaxed and more comfortable having them around.”
“You know how much red tape that can be,” Rizzo said. “(Cardozo) got his family over here. He stayed all winter with us. That really put him over the edge.”
And that alone made a significant difference?
“I think so,” Rizzo said. “I think the feeling of security that your family is in the United States with you, I don’t know if you could quantify that. But I think it was really important.”
It was particularly important in this case, of course, because Ramos’ personal background is unlike any other in the majors. Four-and-a-half years ago, while standing outside his family’s house in Valencia, he was abducted by four armed men, whisked away in an SUV and held captive for more than two days before a successful rescue operation brought him back home.
Ramos was never physically harmed during the ordeal, but the emotional toll was significant. And it has never fully gone away, even though Ramos has made a concerted effort to move beyond it.
“I’ve surpassed that time in my life,” he said. “I thank God for that. There’s moments where I still reflect on it a little bit, just mainly asking myself why did things happen the way they did. But the fact I’ve spent so much time here working on what I have to do, in terms of getting ready to stay on the field, and off the field spending time with my family, it gives me very little time to think about what has happened. Every now and then, but for the most part it’s been out of my mind and I just focus on what I have to do.”
The incident remains fresh in the minds of the Nationals executives who found themselves thrust into the middle of an overseas kidnapping, with no protocols for dealing with an event that had never previously occurred. (Ramos was, and remains, the only active major league player to be kidnapped in Venezuela.)
“I think about it all the time. I still do,” Rizzo said. “It’s hard. He’s a quiet, introverted guy for the most part. I saw a lot of emotion, though. It’s easy to say: ‘Hey, forget about it. It’s in the past.’ But there had to be some harrowing moments. And I imagine he wakes up sometimes thinking about it.”
In the 4 1/2 years since the abduction, Ramos and the Nationals have maintained a particularly strong relationship. Rizzo has been among the catcher’s biggest supporters throughout, still recalling how highly he thought of him upon completing the July 2010 trade that brought Ramos to Washington from Minnesota for veteran closer Matt Capps.
Ramos has been through plenty in his big league career, suffering major injuries in 2012, 2013 and 2014 that limited him to a total of 191 games. He finally avoided the disabled list last season but regressed at the plate, hitting a scant .229 with a .616 OPS.
The manner in which Ramos has put it all together at last this season has been particularly meaningful to the organization that stuck with him all this time.

“It’s really gratifying, especially with all the trials and tribulations he’s gone through,” Rizzo said. “I’m glad it’s happened for him this year because he’s been on that precipice for a couple years, and then something always went wrong. It’s really good to see him putting everything together and becoming a great player.”
As thrilled as the Nationals have been to see Ramos thrive this season and earn his way into tonight’s All-Star Game in San Diego, they also know this could end up costing them a whole lot of money sometime soon. Or perhaps even cost them Ramos himself.
This just so happens to be Ramos’ contract year; he’ll be eligible for free agency come November. And he stands to make a pretty penny on the open market, which could lead to some mixed feelings from the Nationals.
“No, not mixed,” Rizzo insisted. “Love it. Love that he’s having this big year, anytime, but a contract year is fine with me. He deserves to make a lot of money. He’s going to make a lot of money. We like having him around. He and I have a personal relationship, and I know he’s got a relationship with the team. I know he’s happy to be here.”
Whether Ramos ultimately chooses happiness and familiarity or chooses to play elsewhere in 2017, his relationship with the Nationals organization won’t change. This is the franchise that went out of its way to acquire him when he was stuck in the Twins farm system, with little chance at the time to supplant Joe Mauer behind the plate at Target Field.
This is the franchise that worked with authorities to rescue him during his darkest hours. This is the franchise that stuck with him during that spate of injuries. And this is the organization that made sure his family could leave Venezuela last winter and join him in the United States, no small feat.
Ramos won’t soon forget that.
“I’m very thankful the way I’ve been treated here,” he said. “They gave me an opportunity, and I’ll always be thankful for the opportunity Mike Rizzo has given me. The front office has treated me great. They’ve always treated me great. ... Obviously I would enjoy staying here the rest of my career, if that was possible. I’m very grateful that I’ve been given this opportunity. And the way the organization has treated me, I appreciate that very much.”




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/12/2016 10:36:15 AM)

Miami Marlins right fielder Giancarlo Stanton hit so many home runs on his way to winning the Home Run Derby on Monday night that he caused at least a temporary marketing nightmare for his team.

Earlier in the day, the Marlins sent an email to their fans advertising that "when Giancarlo homers, you score!"

The offer said that "each time G launches a home run out of Petco Park, we'll knock a percentage point off future Marlins tickets."

Stanton proceeded to launch 61 home runs, besting Bobby Abreu's 2005 record in the contest by 20 homers. His final competitor, Todd Frazier, also broke the record by one (42 home runs).

So did that mean that Marlins fans got 61 percent off future games?

Well, not exactly. Fans who clicked on the link, which activated after the contest, discovered they would get just 25 percent off on all seats for 35 specified future Marlins games.

A $26 seat becomes $20.

A $218 seat is $164.

With a 61 percent discount, a $26 seat would be $10.14. The $218 seat would be $85.02.

When reached Monday night, team president David Samson said that, although the terms were not specified in the initial email to fans, Major League Baseball Advanced Media, which runs team websites, sets a maximum on these type of offers at 25 percent.

"What Giancarlo did was so cool that we are working on an additional offer," Samson said. "We're thinking about picking a game and offering 61 percent off."

Some fans might argue that's what they thought they were guaranteed when the contest ended.




MDK -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/12/2016 10:38:39 AM)

Whether Ramos ultimately chooses happiness and familiarity or chooses to play elsewhere in 2017, his relationship with the Nationals organization won’t change. This is the franchise that went out of its way to acquire him when he was stuck in the Twins farm system, with little chance at the time to supplant Joe Mauer behind the plate at Target Field.

Good thing no one here on this forum proposed a split of catcher duties between an effective Mauer at the time and a young Ramos. Good thing no one proposed having Mauer split his time at catcher with a LF assignment and have Ramos serve as a catcher and DH.

So glad we got rid of Rod Barajas for a closer who was the key component for our central division title.

And who needs a catcher now anyway.....we have Suzuki.




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/15/2016 7:02:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Black 47

Anybody listen to Common ridiculing Ben Zobrist's whiny comments today about the Cubs "grueling" schedule is unfair to fans? I swear, in the sports world, baseball players are the most pathetic. They hit the ball. They run around the bases. They stand out in the field. They have a five month offseason. And somehow we're supposed to feel sorry for them.

Like Cuddyer said, the average Joe doesn't know how hard it is. How ironic that Cuddyer, Zobrist, and this entire league of wussies have never worked a real job in their life. Yet we're the ones who don't understand THEIR pain?

I heard it. I don't miss much of The Progrum. [8|]

What was it?...he was complaining that the Cubs didn't have an off day for 20 straight days or something. WAAAAHHHHH!!

Pretty much. Common loves ripping baseball players when they whine about how tough they have it. 100% agree. The game has changed for the worse in so many ways. I bet if we all put our heads together we could list 50 things that have gotten worse about the game in the last 25 years.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/15/2016 7:04:45 AM)

In today's MLB that window isn't open long


Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports covers a lot of ground in his latest Inside Baseball column, beginning with a look at the Royals and the closing window of Kansas City’s core players (Eric Hosmer, Lorenzo Cain, Mike Moustakas). Hosmer is controllable through 2017, and while the Royals would love to keep him in K.C. forever, Heyman writes that Royals brass feels Hosmer and agent Scott Boras could seek $20MM+ on a 10-year deal. Those numbers may sound jarring for Hosmer, especially in light of Brandon Belt’s $79MM price tag this offseason, but a pair of GMs to whom Heyman spoke invoked contractual comparisons of Jason Heyward and Jacoby Ellsbury when looking ahead to Hosmer’s market. Hosmer will be entering his age-28 season when he hits the free-agent market, so he’ll certainly have youth on his side in addition to consistently improving performance.




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/15/2016 7:05:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MDK

Whether Ramos ultimately chooses happiness and familiarity or chooses to play elsewhere in 2017, his relationship with the Nationals organization won’t change. This is the franchise that went out of its way to acquire him when he was stuck in the Twins farm system, with little chance at the time to supplant Joe Mauer behind the plate at Target Field.

Good thing no one here on this forum proposed a split of catcher duties between an effective Mauer at the time and a young Ramos. Good thing no one proposed having Mauer split his time at catcher with a LF assignment and have Ramos serve as a catcher and DH.

So glad we got rid of Rod Barajas for a closer who was the key component for our central division title.
And who needs a catcher now anyway.....we have Suzuki.

I'd love him back, but why would he come back to the organization that stabbed him in the back. Treated him like Perkins treated Pinto. Went out of their way to say he was fat and uncommitted. Didn't they even say his defensive game was subpar? Almost as if they wanted him to fail.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/15/2016 7:07:42 AM)

The Rays and right-hander Kevin Jepsen, who was released by the Twins recently following a DFA, have agreed to a Major League deal, reports SB Nation’s Chris Cotillo (links to Twitter). Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times reported shortly before that news that the two sides were nearing a deal (via Twitter) and had first mentioned the Rays’ interest in a reunion with Jepsen last week, while Cotillo tweeted yesterday that the Rays were one of many teams to whom Jepsen and his agents at the Beverly Hills Sports Council had spoken.




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/15/2016 7:08:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

In today's MLB that window isn't open long


Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports covers a lot of ground in his latest Inside Baseball column, beginning with a look at the Royals and the closing window of Kansas City’s core players (Eric Hosmer, Lorenzo Cain, Mike Moustakas).
Hosmer is controllable through 2017, and while the Royals would love to keep him in K.C. forever, Heyman writes that Royals brass feels Hosmer and agent Scott Boras could seek $20MM+ on a 10-year deal. Those numbers may sound jarring for Hosmer, especially in light of Brandon Belt’s $79MM price tag this offseason, but a pair of GMs to whom Heyman spoke invoked contractual comparisons of Jason Heyward and Jacoby Ellsbury when looking ahead to Hosmer’s market. Hosmer will be entering his age-28 season when he hits the free-agent market, so he’ll certainly have youth on his side in
addition to consistently improving performance.


My gosh if hosmer thinks he's worth that much. That's insanity.




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/15/2016 7:09:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

The Rays and right-hander Kevin Jepsen, who was released by the Twins recently following a DFA, have agreed to a Major League deal, reports SB Nation’s Chris Cotillo (links to Twitter). Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times reported shortly before that news that the two sides were nearing a deal (via Twitter) and had first mentioned the Rays’ interest in a reunion with Jepsen last week, while Cotillo tweeted yesterday that the Rays were one of many teams to whom Jepsen and his agents at the Beverly Hills Sports Council had spoken.

While Hu is on his way to becoming the next Darvish.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/15/2016 7:12:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Black 47

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

The Rays and right-hander Kevin Jepsen, who was released by the Twins recently following a DFA, have agreed to a Major League deal, reports SB Nation’s Chris Cotillo (links to Twitter). Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times reported shortly before that news that the two sides were nearing a deal (via Twitter) and had first mentioned the Rays’ interest in a reunion with Jepsen last week, while Cotillo tweeted yesterday that the Rays were one of many teams to whom Jepsen and his agents at the Beverly Hills Sports Council had spoken.

While Hu is on his way to becoming the next Darvish.


Jepsen was huge last year, nothing this year. Wound being a bad trade. Was too much to give up for a reliever in the first place. 2 pitchers for a bullpen guy who was a set up man at the time. And average at that.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/15/2016 7:13:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Black 47

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

In today's MLB that window isn't open long


Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports covers a lot of ground in his latest Inside Baseball column, beginning with a look at the Royals and the closing window of Kansas City’s core players (Eric Hosmer, Lorenzo Cain, Mike Moustakas).
Hosmer is controllable through 2017, and while the Royals would love to keep him in K.C. forever, Heyman writes that Royals brass feels Hosmer and agent Scott Boras could seek $20MM+ on a 10-year deal. Those numbers may sound jarring for Hosmer, especially in light of Brandon Belt’s $79MM price tag this offseason, but a pair of GMs to whom Heyman spoke invoked contractual comparisons of Jason Heyward and Jacoby Ellsbury when looking ahead to Hosmer’s market. Hosmer will be entering his age-28 season when he hits the free-agent market, so he’ll certainly have youth on his side in
addition to consistently improving performance.


My gosh if hosmer thinks he's worth that much. That's insanity.


That's MLB today. Greed, aka "what the market will bear".




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/15/2016 7:20:19 AM)

Next CBA negotiation they should shut it down for as long as it takes until the union agrees to non guaranteed contracts. Like the NFL system. You perform or you get cut. Blow it up. I don't care if they shut down MLB for three years. I'll watch the Saints.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (7/15/2016 10:26:03 AM)

Watched 30/30 on gooden/strawberry

Amazed either of them isn't dead.

Doc looks like he's 1/2 step from the grave; and looks like a relapse is right around the corner.




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