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SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 7:15:39 AM)

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What are your team loses a lot when you're in the lineup.

Whaaaaaa?
Many will tell you Punto is the ultimate WINNER
Theres
Bert
Ernie
Gardy
etc .....




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 7:16:37 AM)

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Aaron Judge hits another homer today ... welcome to the bigs kid.


Your boy seems to like being a Yankee.

Knocked in the only run in the game tonight.

Futures so bright
[8|]




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 7:20:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: JT2

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Aaron Judge hits another homer today ... welcome to the bigs kid.


Your boy seems to like being a Yankee.

Knocked in the only run in the game tonight.

Futures so bright
[8|]


How is it that some rooks come up and tear it up

Some rooks fall down, get back up and tear it up

and the Twins rooks seem to piss all over themselves far too often(Kepler the exception, and Sano, overall)




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 7:20:52 AM)

Maybe part of the scouting process by other teams is finding out how big of balls the kids have. Twins shrivel up and cower too much.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 7:33:23 AM)

Definitely in a kids make-up ... to rise to the occasion, or shrivel up
We do seem to lean towards shrivelers.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 8:53:25 AM)

Werth is hitting .255/.345/.455, has played in 105 of the team's 117 games, and along with leadoff hitter Trea Turner gives the Nationals a nice top of the order in front of Daniel Murphy and Bryce Harper. Remember when Werth signed that seven-year, $126 million contract before the 2011 season? It was heavily criticized at the time, mostly because it covered Werth's age-32 through -38 seasons (he still has one year remaining). He had a poor first season, an injury-riddled second season when he played just 81 games, and then played well in 2013 and 2014. Last year was a mess, however, as he hit .221/.302/.384 in 88 games, and the final two seasons didn't look promising. Anyway, it hasn't been a great contract for the Nationals, but it has worked out reasonably well compared to many $100 million contracts.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 10:18:06 AM)

Future HOF candidate is in a spat with his team:

ARLINGTON, Texas — Coco Crisp has served the A’s long and, for the most part, very well, playing a major role with a trio of playoff teams in Oakland.
But now the A’s longest-tenured player is upset and told The Chronicle he is convinced that the team is deliberately not using him to avoid having his $13 million vesting option for 2017 kick in.

“I’m extremely hurt, the way things are being handled,” said Crisp, who did not play in Monday’s 5-2 loss at Texas. “I’m not calling anyone names, but this is really frustrating and disappointing. This has been my favorite organization going back to when I was a kid, because of Rickey Henderson, and I’ve enjoyed playing here so much, and I’ve put it all out there. … Up until recently, it’s been tremendously enjoyable.”

Crisp, 36, needs to play in 130 games this season for his option to vest. He has played in 93 of Oakland’s 119 games, but he is not starting against left-handed pitchers, and manager Bob Melvin, who uses his bench liberally, has not been using Crisp to pinch hit. That has heightened suspicions that Crisp is being held out for contract reasons.

“This is shady. Everyone else is getting used off the bench,” Crisp said. “BoMel can’t even look me in the eye right now.”




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 10:19:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Future HOF candidate is in a spat with his team:

ARLINGTON, Texas — Coco Crisp has served the A’s long and, for the most part, very well, playing a major role with a trio of playoff teams in Oakland.
But now the A’s longest-tenured player is upset and told The Chronicle he is convinced that the team is deliberately not using him to avoid having his $13 million vesting option for 2017 kick in.

“I’m extremely hurt, the way things are being handled,” said Crisp, who did not play in Monday’s 5-2 loss at Texas. “I’m not calling anyone names, but this is really frustrating and disappointing. This has been my favorite organization going back to when I was a kid, because of Rickey Henderson, and I’ve enjoyed playing here so much, and I’ve put it all out there. … Up until recently, it’s been tremendously enjoyable.”

Crisp, 36, needs to play in 130 games this season for his option to vest. He has played in 93 of Oakland’s 119 games, but he is not starting against left-handed pitchers, and manager Bob Melvin, who uses his bench liberally, has not been using Crisp to pinch hit. That has heightened suspicions that Crisp is being held out for contract reasons.

“This is shady. Everyone else is getting used off the bench,” Crisp said. “BoMel can’t even look me in the eye right now.”




A's should just waive him then.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 10:20:06 AM)

He said "BoMel" [&:][&:][&:]




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 10:20:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Future HOF candidate is in a spat with his team:

ARLINGTON, Texas — Coco Crisp has served the A’s long and, for the most part, very well, playing a major role with a trio of playoff teams in Oakland.
But now the A’s longest-tenured player is upset and told The Chronicle he is convinced that the team is deliberately not using him to avoid having his $13 million vesting option for 2017 kick in.

“I’m extremely hurt, the way things are being handled,” said Crisp, who did not play in Monday’s 5-2 loss at Texas. “I’m not calling anyone names, but this is really frustrating and disappointing. This has been my favorite organization going back to when I was a kid, because of Rickey Henderson, and I’ve enjoyed playing here so much, and I’ve put it all out there. … Up until recently, it’s been tremendously enjoyable.”

Crisp, 36, needs to play in 130 games this season for his option to vest. He has played in 93 of Oakland’s 119 games, but he is not starting against left-handed pitchers, and manager Bob Melvin, who uses his bench liberally, has not been using Crisp to pinch hit. That has heightened suspicions that Crisp is being held out for contract reasons.

“This is shady. Everyone else is getting used off the bench,” Crisp said. “BoMel can’t even look me in the eye right now.”




A's should just waive him then.

They know he's their best player though. They're gonna use him as close to 130 games as they can without going over. Smart and shady on their part.[8|]




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 10:21:09 AM)

Danny Vee had a spot on MLB the other day ... went on and on about what a great proud franchise the A's are.
Uhhhh, yah, kinda.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 10:23:08 AM)

Crisp said that manipulating his playing time to avoid paying him is unfair. The games-played minimum was put in the agreement to reward good health, which he has had this season, thanks to hard work, preparation and medication.

Absolutely. I really see his point. The clause was because he's had a history of injuries. He's healthy, he should be playing.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 10:24:14 AM)

“Let me play my way out, and if I get hurt, I get hurt, but if I’m in good health, I should get the chance to play,” Crisp said. “I’m healthy, I’m playing hard, and this has surprised me. This calls their integrity into question. It’s very sad.”

Crisp has been on the disabled list six times in his seven seasons with Oakland, including much of last season with a severe and chronic neck injury that was the result of crashing into the wall in center.

“I’ve left a lot of blood, sweat and even broken bones out there for them. I’ve gone through everything you can go through to get out there,” he said. “That makes this tough.”


Call me soft, but I feel bad for him. He's getting screwed.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 10:25:13 AM)

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“Let me play my way out, and if I get hurt, I get hurt, but if I’m in good health, I should get the chance to play,” Crisp said. “I’m healthy, I’m playing hard, and this has surprised me. This calls their integrity into question. It’s very sad.”

Crisp has been on the disabled list six times in his seven seasons with Oakland, including much of last season with a severe and chronic neck injury that was the result of crashing into the wall in center.

“I’ve left a lot of blood, sweat and even broken bones out there for them. I’ve gone through everything you can go through to get out there,” he said. “That makes this tough.”


Call me soft, but I feel bad for him. He's getting screwed.



Softy

He's pissin' and moanin' because he knows no one will pay him 13 mill next year.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 10:25:38 AM)

“I want to suit up, but there are some nights where there is no point — they’re not going to put me out there anyway, and there isn’t anything I can do about it,” he said Monday. “I’m down there waiting on the bench, wearing my batting gloves, holding my bat. I’m like that kid in class who when the teacher asks a question is waving his hand up and down, ‘I know, I know, call on me, I’m right here!’ and the teacher says, ‘Is there anyone else?’”

[:@]




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 10:31:46 AM)

NEW YORK -- Joe Girardi says there has been a different feeling in the New York Yankees clubhouse since the decision was made at the trade deadline to shed some of the aging bodies on the roster -- and bloated contracts on the payroll -- and go younger.

"I think a clubhouse always changes when different people come in," Girardi said. "It's definitely different. It's a different group of guys. Very professional, ready to go every day, like the other guys. But it's just different. There's a little more energy, but that happens when you have young players."

So far, that energy has translated into runs -- 69 in the 14 games played in August, a healthy 4.9 runs per game -- and wins. The Yankees are 9-5 since the trading deadline and, at 4½ games out of the second wild-card berth, can even legitimately claim to be in a playoff hunt.

Some things have not changed: They left a whopping 14 men on base Monday and went 2-for-18 with runners in scoring position, and one of those hits didn't even drive in a run. The "old guard" -- Jacoby Ellsbury, Chase Headley, Brian McCann and Mark Teixeira -- went 3-for-13 with four strikeouts.

As a result, their 1-0 victory on Monday night over the Toronto Blue Jays, one of the teams they are chasing, was mainly to the credit of three of the newest Yankees -- Chad Green, who turned in one of the best starts of any Yankees pitcher this year; Gary Sanchez, who had two more hits to raise his average to .302 and whose familiar presence behind the plate provided a level of comfort for Green; and Aaron Judge, who for the first time in his big league career did not hit a home run.

But Judge did the next best thing -- driving in the only run of the game with a fourth-inning double. And in the process, he became the first Yankees player to do something neither Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio nor Derek Jeter ever did -- collect an extra-base hit in each of his first three games with the club.

The kids got some help from a veteran, Headley, who picked Edwin Encarnacion's one-hopper on his backhand with the tying run at third in the ninth to start a game-ending double play, and from a quasi-veteran, Dellin Betances, who picked up his fifth save since becoming the new closer when Aroldis Chapman and Andrew Miller were traded away.

It was Green who made the biggest impression of the night. Green's previous appearances as a Yankee -- he has made the trip back and forth between Scranton and the Bronx five times this season, the most recent on Monday morning -- have shown flashes of great promise and gut-wrenching failure.

In four of his prior big league performances this year, he held opponents scoreless; in the other four, three of them starts, he allowed 15 earned runs and eight home runs in 18 innings for an unsightly ERA of 7.50.

With Nathan Eovaldi on the disabled list, Ivan Nova traded to Pittsburgh and Luis Severino back in Scranton trying to find his lost effectiveness, the Yankees had no choice but to give Green another shot at MLB success. For Scranton, he had been lights-out, his 7-6 record a misleading blot on a season in which he had a stingy 1.52 ERA and 100 strikeouts and just 21 walks in 94 innings.

What Green did on Monday night surpassed anything he had done at Scranton all season. Shutting down the Blue Jays' lineup, even minus Jose Bautista, is no easy task, and to stifle it the way Green did even more impressive. Mixing in a newly nasty slider with his 95 mph fastball, Green retired the first 12 batters he faced before Troy Tulowitzki singled with one out in the fifth. Darrell Ceciliani followed with a single, and with runners on second and third, the Blue Jays seemed to be in business.

But that is where Green did his best work of the night, getting Justin Smoak to chase a slider for strike three and winning a nine-pitch duel with Melvin Upton Jr. by blowing a 94 mph fastball by him. The two hits were the only ones Green allowed all game; he finished up his six-inning stint with no walks and 11 strikeouts, the most by a Yankees rookie starter since Masahiro Tanaka did it in 2014.

"Since we've seen him in spring training, his slider has improved drastically," Girardi said. "Everything's gotten better. We loved his arm, and that's why we traded for him."

Green was acquired along with Luis Cessa last winter for Justin Wilson, who was a useful situational lefty for the Yankees last season. One of the things that most impressed Girardi about him was his refusal to mope over his frequent demotions and those dispiriting trips on the Scranton Shuttle.

"Each time, he took his demotion the right way and said, this is what I need to work on and I'm going to get better," Girardi said. "He never got down on himself, never hung his head and just went to work. And he works extremely hard."

Green acknowledged the improvement in his slider but attributed it more to attitude than execution.

"I didn't really change the grip on it too much," he said. "I think it was more like a mindset. Just how I went about it, I guess. Being confident with it is huge."

Green too can be huge for the Yankees down the stretch, if he can continue to pitch the way he did Monday night. With the starting staff decimated by injury, trades and demotions, he will remain in the rotation for as long he continues to produce, and the chances are Cessa will get his chance, as well.

"I think every time we go out there, they're evaluating us," Green said. "We're always playing for the next day, I guess. Every time I run out there, it's almost like a tryout."

On Monday, Green passed his latest tryout. The next one will come in five days or so on the Yankees' upcoming West Coast trip. And whether the Yankees are better, worse or pretty much the same the rest of the way, the new makeup of their clubhouse at least guarantees they will be different.

"It's always fun to see young guys play," said Teixeira, a member of the old guard who is in his final weeks as a Yankee. "They bring a type of energy that sometimes you need. We've really enjoyed those guys coming up so far."




CPAMAN -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 10:40:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

Future HOF candidate is in a spat with his team:

ARLINGTON, Texas — Coco Crisp has served the A’s long and, for the most part, very well, playing a major role with a trio of playoff teams in Oakland.
But now the A’s longest-tenured player is upset and told The Chronicle he is convinced that the team is deliberately not using him to avoid having his $13 million vesting option for 2017 kick in.

“I’m extremely hurt, the way things are being handled,” said Crisp, who did not play in Monday’s 5-2 loss at Texas. “I’m not calling anyone names, but this is really frustrating and disappointing. This has been my favorite organization going back to when I was a kid, because of Rickey Henderson, and I’ve enjoyed playing here so much, and I’ve put it all out there. … Up until recently, it’s been tremendously enjoyable.”

Crisp, 36, needs to play in 130 games this season for his option to vest. He has played in 93 of Oakland’s 119 games, but he is not starting against left-handed pitchers, and manager Bob Melvin, who uses his bench liberally, has not been using Crisp to pinch hit. That has heightened suspicions that Crisp is being held out for contract reasons.

“This is shady. Everyone else is getting used off the bench,” Crisp said. “BoMel can’t even look me in the eye right now.”



Entirely correct decision by the Oakland A's. Baseball contracts are over-tilted in the direction of the players and it keeps getting worse. About time a team showed that they are not going to give away money to a declining player. The Twins need to do the same with Trevor Plouffe. Simply tell him that there will be no contract offer extended to him after the season.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 10:55:19 AM)

PHOENIX -- Bartolo Colon is having a big season at the plate.

First, that unforgettable home run, and now -- at last -- a walk.

The 43-year-old New York Mets pitcher drew the first base on balls of his career Monday night against Arizona Diamondbacks left-hander Robbie Ray. It came in Colon's 282nd plate appearance over 19 major league seasons.

No other player in big league history had appeared at the plate that many times without a walk, according to ESPN Stats & Info.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 11:03:16 AM)

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PHOENIX -- Bartolo Colon is having a big season at the plate.

First, that unforgettable home run, and now -- at last -- a walk.

The 43-year-old New York Mets pitcher drew the first base on balls of his career Monday night against Arizona Diamondbacks left-hander Robbie Ray. It came in Colon's 282nd plate appearance over 19 major league seasons.

No other player in big league history had appeared at the plate that many times without a walk, according to ESPN Stats & Info.



Rosario and Polanco should have challenged that. Maybe they can with their next run of non-walk at bats.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 11:06:51 AM)

Was thinking the same thing Ed [&:]

We've got guys who thinking "hitting" means taking a walk, and we have guys who think "hitting" means YOUHAVETOSWING




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 11:20:49 AM)

Sorry CoCo. You signed the contract. Unless there's a clause that says you must play if you're healthy, the team is within it's rights to do whatever it wants.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 11:33:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Black 47

Sorry CoCo. You signed the contract. Unless there's a clause that says you must play if you're healthy, the team is within it's rights to do whatever it wants.

This is true.

But he can still call it shady. [8|]




CPAMAN -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 11:42:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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Sorry CoCo. You signed the contract. Unless there's a clause that says you must play if you're healthy, the team is within it's rights to do whatever it wants.

This is true.

But he can still call it shady. [8|]


I cannot defend any player in MLB who thinks they are getting screwed by their team/employer. The magnitude of the money these players are making, the guaranteed contracts being paid for players who constantly get hurt and/or ill-perform is ridiculous. How did it ever come down to this? It defies all business logic. The Players Union needs to be suppressed in the next CBA.




Black 47 -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 1:51:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

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Sorry CoCo. You signed the contract. Unless there's a clause that says you must play if you're healthy, the team is within it's rights to do whatever it wants.

This is true.

But he can still call it shady. [8|]

Yeah. But Oakland has paid him well the last two years. It's amazing how players making this kind of money still feel disrespected. He'll get barely over the veterans minimum on the open market. How he thinks they owe him that club option is beyond me.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (8/16/2016 1:57:03 PM)

This is a version of bait & switch by the A's.




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