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SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/28/2020 10:06:23 AM)

As winners?
As important?
What's the criteria?
That's a wide ranging group to rank.




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/28/2020 10:08:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

As winners?
As important?
What's the criteria?
That's a wide ranging group to rank.

Most intimidating. That's what really counts.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/28/2020 12:19:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Tim Keefe, Eddie Plank, and Pud Galvin

Trying to think if that's a good list to be on or a bad one. [:D]


Kid Nichols


Pud Galvin

Must have some distant relatives. Several Puds played for the Twins in 2020




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/28/2020 12:24:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Tim Keefe, Eddie Plank, and Pud Galvin

Trying to think if that's a good list to be on or a bad one. [:D]


Kid Nichols


Pud Galvin

Must have some distant relatives. Several Puds played for the Twins in 2020

I think he was in The Natural
Or was that "Bump"?
[&:]
Tim Keefe sounds like the type of guy that set a record for "most teams in a 3 year span"




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/28/2020 12:26:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Tim Keefe, Eddie Plank, and Pud Galvin

Trying to think if that's a good list to be on or a bad one. [:D]


Kid Nichols


Pud Galvin

Must have some distant relatives. Several Puds played for the Twins in 2020

I think he was in The Natural
Or was that "Bump"?
[&:]
Tim Keefe sounds like the type of guy that set a record for "most teams in a 3 year span"



[&:][&:]




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/28/2020 1:32:41 PM)

Word is that after getting Snell, Pads are trying to pull the trigger on picking up Darvish.

Leaving Sonny Gray or Castillo(Reds) for the Twins to Swoop In on....[&o]




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/28/2020 1:49:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Tim Keefe, Eddie Plank, and Pud Galvin

Trying to think if that's a good list to be on or a bad one. [:D]


Kid Nichols


Pud Galvin

Must have some distant relatives. Several Puds played for the Twins in 2020

I think he was in The Natural
Or was that "Bump"?
[&:]
Tim Keefe sounds like the type of guy that set a record for "most teams in a 3 year span"



[&:][&:]

You're thinking of Keefe Cato.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/28/2020 2:02:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Word is that after getting Snell, Pads are trying to pull the trigger on picking up Darvish.

Leaving Sonny Gray or Castillo(Reds) for the Twins to Swoop In on....[&o]

I know ... lets all Boo the shit outta the Padres this year
Ya know, because they are the Evil Empire and stuff ........ [&:][&:]




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/28/2020 2:19:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Word is that after getting Snell, Pads are trying to pull the trigger on picking up Darvish.

Leaving Sonny Gray or Castillo(Reds) for the Twins to Swoop In on....[&o]

I know ... lets all Boo the shit outta the Padres this year
Ya know, because they are the Evil Empire and stuff ........ [&:][&:]



Nah, time to admire them

They're gutting the farm system to go for it vs spending all that FA money

[;)]




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/29/2020 12:22:56 PM)

The "rebuilds are an inevitability" narrative favors no one but owners. Yet somehow fans have accepted it as an unfortunate reality that teams "have to" gut payroll for 3-4 years to be competitive for their next "window."

If you buy that, Tom Ricketts has a bridge to sell, too.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/29/2020 12:54:13 PM)

The Rays, Phillies, and Dodgers are in combination on a three-team deal, according to Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times (Twitter links). As part of the swap, left-hander Jose Alvarado will go from the Rays to the Phillies, and minor league first baseman Dillon Paulson and a player to be named later will go from the Dodgers to Tampa Bay. The Phils announced that left-hander Garrett Cleavinger has been sent to Los Angeles to complete the Dodgers’ end of the trade.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/29/2020 1:07:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

The Rays, Phillies, and Dodgers are in combination on a three-team deal, according to Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times (Twitter links). As part of the swap, left-hander Jose Alvarado will go from the Rays to the Phillies, and minor league first baseman Dillon Paulson and a player to be named later will go from the Dodgers to Tampa Bay. The Phils announced that left-hander Garrett Cleavinger has been sent to Los Angeles to complete the Dodgers’ end of the trade.

They forgot .. it's a four-way
Twins involved

The Twins watched




Trekgeekscott -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (12/29/2020 2:33:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

The Rays, Phillies, and Dodgers are in combination on a three-team deal, according to Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times (Twitter links). As part of the swap, left-hander Jose Alvarado will go from the Rays to the Phillies, and minor league first baseman Dillon Paulson and a player to be named later will go from the Dodgers to Tampa Bay. The Phils announced that left-hander Garrett Cleavinger has been sent to Los Angeles to complete the Dodgers’ end of the trade.


Meanwhile the Twins continued to twiddle their thumbs and put all their hopes in minor league contracts with invites to spring training.

God this is frustrating watching teams that want it go out of their way to make their teams better, while my team keeps sitting on its ****ing hands.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/5/2021 1:27:33 PM)

Jason Kipnis
@TheJK_Kid
A week late but I’d like to thank the Padres for that small bit of excitement! Refreshing to see! MLB offseason have become the worst in terms of action and keeping fans excited..Also..when the hell are we starting this year? Feb? March? It’d be nice to let us know maybe...
@MLB




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/6/2021 8:56:41 AM)

Apparently MLB has told organizations they'll delay the start of the minors season, for AA and A-ball

Requesting those players wait until the MLB and AAA rosters have left the spring training facilities.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/6/2021 8:57:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

Apparently MLB has told organizations they'll delay the start of the minors season, for AA and A-ball

Requesting those players wait until the MLB and AAA rosters have left the spring training facilities.



This will have an impact on ST games. Teams like to use AA/A filler at the end of contests.




Mark Anderson -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/7/2021 12:16:01 PM)

Good news, Twins fans.

Lindor traded.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/7/2021 12:17:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Good news, Twins fans.

Lindor traded.


Out of the American League, and the Divisoni.

The Indians are in full rebuild.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/7/2021 12:29:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Trekgeekscott

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ORIGINAL: Mark Anderson

Good news, Twins fans.

Lindor traded.


Out of the American League, and the Divisoni.

The Indians are in full rebuild.



Starter Carrasco also gone

The Mets and Indians have agreed to a major blockbuster, announcing that New York has acquired shortstop Francisco Lindor and right-hander Carlos Carrasco as part of a six-player trade. To replace their star shortstop, Cleveland will receive two prominent young infielders in Amed Rosario and Andres Gimenez and a pair of Mets prospects — right-hander Josh Wolf and outfielder Isaiah Greene.


Wonder when their third baseman will want out. The cupboard is pretty bare.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/7/2021 12:30:28 PM)

The #Mets system isn't good and they got both while giving up:

A 25-year-old failed top prospect, a former borderline top 100 prospect, their 9th best prospect, and their 10th best prospect.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/8/2021 8:28:02 AM)

A revealing text message from star pitcher Gerrit Cole has been submitted as evidence in Brian Harkins' quest to prove he was unfairly made a scapegoat when the Los Angeles Angels fired him as their clubhouse attendant for supplying ball-doctoring substances to pitchers.

The message -- dated Jan. 17, 2019 -- was filed in Orange County (California) Superior Court on Thursday as opposition to a request to dismiss the original lawsuit submitted by Harkins' attorneys in August.

"Hey Bubba, it's Gerrit Cole," the text reads. "I was wondering if you could help me out with this sticky situation [winky face emoji]. We don't see you until May, but we have some road games in April that are in cold weather places. The stuff I had last year seizes up when it gets cold ..."

Harkins was fired last March, ending a nearly four-decade run with the Angels, after the organization was informed by Major League Baseball that he was providing pitchers with an illegal blend of rosin and pine tar, a violation of a rule that had never been strictly enforced.

Harkins' attorneys, Daniel Rasmussen and Matthew Brown, filed suit against the Angels and MLB in late August, and the defendants filed a motion to dismiss it in early November. A Jan. 21 hearing has been scheduled to determine whether the case will move forward.

The original complaint outlined the reasons why applying rosin and pine tar on baseballs by pitchers has been a long-held, accepted practice done largely for safety reasons and insinuated that Harkins was fired without proper warning. It stated that Harkins never received a copy of the Feb. 28, 2020, memo issued by Chris Young -- the former MLB vice president of on-field operations who is now general manager of the Texas Rangers -- that reemphasized the rule disallowing the application of foreign substances and stated that club personnel would be forbidden from facilitating the practice.

The opposition, first reported on by the Los Angeles Times, states that Harkins absorbed undeserved hits to his reputation in the wake of his firing, leaving him unable to find other employment, and that nobody else has been punished amid baseball's efforts to curb the practice of applying sticky substances to baseballs.

"MLB and the Angels have artificially created a one-person scandal," the opposition claims, "and in doing so, have avoided disciplining the players they repeatedly protect from their rule breaking."

The opposition also includes a declaration from Harkins in which he recalled a March 26 interview with attorneys from MLB and the Angels. During the interview, Harkins claims, he identified Cole, Justin Verlander, Edwin Jackson, Max Scherzer, Felix Hernandez, Corey Kluber, Joba Chamberlain, Adam Wainwright and Tyler Chatwood among the pitchers who previously asked for his specific blend of pine tar and rosin, which became popular throughout the league after he made it for former closer Troy Percival more than 20 years ago.

Harkins also named several current and former Angels -- Percival, Brendan Donnelly, Kevin Jepsen, Cam Bedrosian, Keynan Middleton, Yusmeiro Petit, Luke Bard, Matt Andriese, Dylan Peters, Jose Suarez, Kaleb Cowart and Dylan Bundy -- who used the blend.

A spokesperson for the Angels said the organization does not comment on pending legal matters. A league spokesman could not be reached for comment.

"The termination of my employment came as a complete surprise to me since I had never received anything but compliments for my hard work and dedication to the team and my management of the visitor's clubhouse," Harkins wrote in his declaration. "To my knowledge, there are no negative reviews in my personnel file. I have never received a warning or been counseled against any activity related to my employment."

Harkins, known throughout the league as "Bubba," joined the Angels as a bat boy in 1981 and worked as the visiting clubhouse manager from 1990 until the day of his termination on March 3, 2020. In the 1990s, Percival taught him to place rosin, pine tar and Mota stick -- a firmer pine tar -- in the bottom of a soda can and melt it with a lighter to create the sticky substance that would be widely distributed to home and away pitchers. Harkins provided this blend "as a courtesy," the opposition states, adding that it was "not a money-making venture" and that "many people within the Angels organization knew about the Sticky Stuff."

The opposition also included declarations from 16-year major league players Wally Joyner and Mike Sweeney, who emphasized the commonality and acceptance of the practice and lauded Harkins' reputation. Declarations were also made by longtime Chicago White Sox clubhouse manager Gabe Morell and former Angels bat boy and clubhouse attendant Vince Willet.

Willet noted that Harkins' mixture of rosin and pine tar was a constant presence in the Angels' bullpen bag.

"To my knowledge," Willet wrote, "all of the Angels pitchers, coaches and managers knew about and encouraged the use of Bubba's mixture. I specifically recall one occasion when Angels pitcher C.J. Wilson approached Bubba and me in the clubhouse lobby between the two clubhouses. In the conversation, Wilson referred to the mixture as 'the stuff from the bullpen bag.'"

A text message from Verlander and notes from a subsequent phone call were also presented as evidence by Harkins' attorneys. In the phone call, Verlander -- who pitched alongside Cole on the Houston Astros before Cole left for the New York Yankees in December 2019 -- alleged that MLB began to crack down on pitchers' use of ball-doctoring substances when it found out teams were conducting studies to concoct more advanced blends to maximize a pitcher's spin rate, according to Harkins' notes.

The opposition also includes a text message from Angels bench coach Mike Gallego, who wrote in part: "I'm sorry this game is using you as a scapegoat."


I'm sure our law and order commissioner will crack the whip




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/8/2021 8:30:33 AM)

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I'm sure our law and order commissioner will crack the whip


Worst commissioner ever. Any sport.

He's so incompetent official decisions on the universal DH training camp, roster sizes

All undone.

Leaving a number of players out in the cold for Free Agency.

Collusion? Methinks the players association should be prepping to bust their balls.




TJSweens -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/8/2021 8:39:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

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I'm sure our law and order commissioner will crack the whip


Worst commissioner ever. Any sport.

AHEM! Some of us NHL fans would beg to differ.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/11/2021 10:26:15 AM)

MLB venturing into the sportsBook stuff

Nationals reach multi-year, exclusive partnership with BetMGM. Will include the opening of a BetMGM Sportsbook connected to Nationals Park and the launch of a mobile app within the permitted area around the Park.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (1/14/2021 1:24:42 PM)

Breaking news -Theo Epstein will join the commissioners office as a consultant regarding on field matters. MLB will announce today.

Hopefully will tell Manfred what a bad commissioner is and how MLB can start making up for all the gaffes.




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