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Steve Lentz -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/17/2014 8:12:49 PM)

The Royals are starting to look like the team I believe they are. They are the Tigers only serious threat in the Central.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/18/2014 8:40:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Steve Lentz

The Royals are starting to look like the team I believe they are. They are the Tigers only serious threat in the Central.



9 Straight wins.

Smokin'


Don't know how the Twins could go on a run like that.They're too inconsistent in too many areas.




Dave E -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/18/2014 9:02:56 AM)

Tigers are underachieving again, in my mind.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/19/2014 5:29:20 AM)

Kershaw no-hitter/15k's

beast




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/19/2014 8:09:23 AM)

I was watching MLB Network when he was perfect thru 5. But there was just no way I could stay up. Had to turn it off. It definitely felt like we was gonna get a no-hitter. Should have been a perfect game. Error on Hanley Ramirez. Bet he feels like crap for partially ruining what was probably the best pitched game in baseball history.




Dave E -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/19/2014 9:03:08 AM)

Game score has it only behind Wood's 20 K effort. Wow.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/19/2014 9:15:03 AM)

Having an Ace ... is underrated.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/19/2014 9:16:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Having an Ace ... is underrated.



In MN it's overrated.

Who cares if you have an ace? You lose 90+ games, you don't need a stinkin' ace.




Trekgeekscott -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/19/2014 9:22:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Having an Ace ... is underrated.



In MN it's overrated.

Who cares if you have an ace? You lose 90+ games, you don't need a stinkin' ace.


You lose 90+ games, part of the reason is you don't have a stinkin' ace.




Jim Frenette -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/19/2014 10:34:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twinsfan

I was watching MLB Network when he was perfect thru 5. But there was just no way I could stay up. Had to turn it off. It definitely felt like we was gonna get a no-hitter. Should have been a perfect game. Error on Hanley Ramirez. Bet he feels like crap for partially ruining what was probably the best pitched game in baseball history.


And I bet Vin Scully didn't mention No Hitter like our guys do. Just seconds after Jack mentioned perfect game yesterday, Nava got his double. Probably nothing to do with it, but is still prefer not hearing it.




Dave E -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/19/2014 11:18:56 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

I was watching MLB Network when he was perfect thru 5. But there was just no way I could stay up. Had to turn it off. It definitely felt like we was gonna get a no-hitter. Should have been a perfect game. Error on Hanley Ramirez. Bet he feels like crap for partially ruining what was probably the best pitched game in baseball history.


And I bet Vin Scully didn't mention No Hitter like our guys do. Just seconds after Jack mentioned perfect game yesterday, Nava got his double. Probably nothing to do with it, but is still prefer not hearing it.


Not probably. It had nothing to do with it.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/19/2014 11:24:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

I was watching MLB Network when he was perfect thru 5. But there was just no way I could stay up. Had to turn it off. It definitely felt like we was gonna get a no-hitter. Should have been a perfect game. Error on Hanley Ramirez. Bet he feels like crap for partially ruining what was probably the best pitched game in baseball history.


And I bet Vin Scully didn't mention No Hitter like our guys do. Just seconds after Jack mentioned perfect game yesterday, Nava got his double. Probably nothing to do with it, but is still prefer not hearing it.


Not probably. It had nothing to do with it.



Ahhhhhh ..... I don't knowwwwwwwwwwwwww [&:]




twinsfan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/19/2014 11:24:36 AM)

It is a tricky one.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/19/2014 11:26:10 AM)

I get smacked on the bench all the time in hockey ... when our goalie has a shutout going, I usually mention it.
Pisses them all off.
Pffft, get their mind off it, gets em pissed at me instead, good. [:D]




MDK -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/19/2014 11:27:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dave E

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim Frenette

quote:

ORIGINAL: twinsfan

I was watching MLB Network when he was perfect thru 5. But there was just no way I could stay up. Had to turn it off. It definitely felt like we was gonna get a no-hitter. Should have been a perfect game. Error on Hanley Ramirez. Bet he feels like crap for partially ruining what was probably the best pitched game in baseball history.


And I bet Vin Scully didn't mention No Hitter like our guys do. Just seconds after Jack mentioned perfect game yesterday, Nava got his double. Probably nothing to do with it, but is still prefer not hearing it.


Not probably. It had nothing to do with it.


It messes up the space-time continuum.

I am working on the equation now.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/19/2014 12:23:37 PM)

KC sees the Tiggers bleeding, and just wont let them up ... up already again today in the first inning.
They smell blood in the water.
Maybe KC has turned the corner?




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/19/2014 1:39:00 PM)

Tigers respond
Take a 2-1 lead in the 6th




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/19/2014 2:43:47 PM)

Detroit hangs on by their chinny chin chin.
Just escape the sweepage.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/20/2014 8:18:06 AM)

Yankees maneuvering their way towards David Price.
Couple nice phenoms going for Marlins and Mets last night.
Love the power shift ... the As are as good as it gets this year. Pounded the whiny Saaawks last night.
Swisher with a Granny walk-off. Tribe not going away yet either.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/20/2014 8:32:23 AM)

And NYY is only 1 1/2 out of first with a lot of nobodies on that roster.

Oakland is consistently good.

22-14 at home, 23-14 on the road.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/20/2014 8:37:42 AM)

Its always interesting to see the differences in thought process.
NYY have a legit Ace.
Guess what?
They want another. And work every day to find ways to get one. Funny how that works.




Mr. Ed -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/20/2014 8:39:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SoMnFan

Its always interesting to see the differences in thought process.
NYY have a legit Ace.
Guess what?
They want another. And work every day to find ways to get one. Funny how that works.


Hey now

The Twins just added a 30-year old wanna-be who can strike out 1/inning.

That's a bold move for them.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/20/2014 8:41:53 AM)

Some teams pushpushpush to win titles and get back to greatness
Some teams pushpushpush to keep .500 within sight




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/20/2014 9:53:29 AM)

Olneys Insider stuff this week


The volume of calls and text messages between general managers is growing as teams look to improve through trades, through adding help from outside of the organization.

But as has been noted many times since Major League Baseball expanded its playoff field from eight to 10, the extra wild-card team reduces the field of potential sellers, because more teams have hope and reason to wait to break up their teams.

There is another factor depressing the trade market as well, according to some executives who have taken the pulse of rival evaluators: parity.

The Oakland Athletics have been a great team this season, with the best record in the majors at 44-28 and a run differential of plus-132. The Giants own the second-best run differential -- 85 runs less, at plus-47. Twenty-six of the 30 teams have run differentials ranging between the Giants' plus-47 and the minus-40 of the Texas Rangers and the Houston Astros.

Oh, sure, you could go out and make an aggressive trade and pay what are perceived to be extremely high asking prices for the Cubs' Jeff Samardzija or Jason Hammel, and inevitably, teams will do that. But given the relative mediocrity of the teams in 2014, some executives privately ask the question: Is the addition of a player really going to make that much of a difference, given how deeply flawed most teams are?

General managers will weigh the cost/benefit equation of adding someone such as Samardzija or David Price, and for now, some are saying that it might make more business sense to wait to see if their current teams can play better, or if internal adjustments would be more effective.

The Kansas City Royals are a great example of this.

Three weeks ago, there was speculation that manager Ned Yost and/or GM Dayton Moore might be in jeopardy of being fired. Now, the Royals have zoomed into first place with essentially the same cast of players because they're playing better and because the Tigers have regressed. The Dodgers have made up a ton of ground in the standings in just a week because the Giants started losing.


[+] EnlargeDaniel Murphy

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Daniel Murphy could be a player the Mets look to move.
The Yankees could use a starting pitcher, undoubtedly, and they may well land someone before the deadline. But because Toronto is much less than a super team, New York sits just 2.5 games out of first place -- and Brian McCann, Jacoby Ellsbury and Carlos Beltran really haven't performed as expected. The Red Sox have been shocking in their struggles, and yet they're just four games out in the wild-card race. They have improved the back end of their rotation with the performances of Brandon Workman and Rubby De La Rosa, and they are weeding through their internal options; it's hardly out of the realm of possibility that they could keep the current cast and get better results.

Think of MLB as a marathon. Oakland is way out in front of the pack right now, and behind them is a pack of 23 to 25 teams, at the 11th mile. And no one else in the pack appears ready to break away.

They can wait. The trade market can wait.

Parity could be a plus for the Yankees, writes Tyler Kepner. Brian Cashman is ready to deal, writes John Harper.

Among possible sellers:

1. The Mets should deal now, writes Joel Sherman. Daniel Murphy would have some value.

2. Samardzija is no closer to signing with the Cubs.

3. It’s time for the Rays to start selling, writes Gary Shelton.

4. The Rangers are buried deeper in the AL West after their latest loss.

Kershaw's no-hitter

The reaction of A.J. Ellis at the moment Clayton Kershaw finished his no-hitter says it all: He takes a moment to set down his helmet and mask before moving to congratulate Kershaw. Ellis and the Dodgers have been expecting this. It seemed inevitable that Kershaw would pitch a no-hitter, given his effort and his talent and his preparation, detailed in this piece from March.

From ESPN Stats & Information, how Kershaw threw a no-nitter:

1. Fourteen of Kershaw's 15 strikeouts came with his breaking pitches. That's two more than any other pitcher in any start since 2009.
2. Thirteen of Kershaw's strikeouts came in five pitches or fewer, one shy of the most by any pitcher since 2009.
3. Early in the count (0-0, 0-1, 1-0, 1-1), Kershaw threw his fastball a season-high 72 percent of the time. In all other counts, he threw it 28 percent of the time, his second-lowest percentage of the season.
4. Kershaw went to only one 2-0 count and only one three-ball count.
5. He threw 19 sliders out of the zone and the Rockies chased on 14 of them (74 percent). That's the second-highest chase percentage against his slider in any start in which he threw at least 20 total. Overall, he had 15 K's, nine ground outs, and three fly outs.

The Rockies had no answers. The Dodgers celebrated with Kershaw. Hanley Ramirez didn’t make a excuse about his error.

Notables

• You knew it was going to be another bad day for the Tigers when a first-inning ground ball skipped off the corner of second base and caromed sideways, allowing the Royals' first run to score.

Jeremy Guthrie was dominant, as Andy McCullough writes. How Guthrie won:

1. He got the Tigers to chase 32 percent of his pitches out of the strike zone, his second-highest rate this season.
2. He kept hitters off balance: The Tigers were 1-for-13 with five strikeouts in at-bats ending in a fastball, and 1-for-6 in at-bats ending in a changeup.
3. He put hitters away: Detroit went 0-for-14 in at-bats that reached two strikes.

Right now, the Tigers stink, writes Drew Sharp.

• On Wednesday’s podcast, Tim Kurkjian and Jason Beck discussed the Tigers' issues, and we spoke with Cubs first baseman Anthony Rizzo, who told a story about Tony Gwynn. On Tuesday’s podcast, Jayson Stark and I reminisced about Tony and who he was.

• Anibal Sanchez has become the stopper for the Tigers.

• I hope Major League Baseball issues a statement detailing exactly why this play involving Russell Martin was reversed, and what it is he needed to do differently. I have not seen a play generate more frustration on Twitter, as baseball fans tried to figure out what happened. The folks in uniform felt the same way.

"Russell tagged the plate and got out of the way," Pirates manager Clint Hurdle said. "The runner slid cleanly across the plate: He wasn't obstructed."

During the game, Hurdle called MLB executive vice president for baseball operations Joe Torre to discuss the ruling from New York. "We're still working our way through finding out what is and what isn't obstruction," Hurdle said.

• The Reds are on a roll: Eight wins in 11 games, and they got another multihit game from Billy Hamilton, who just keeps getting better and better.

• Kevin Gausman continues to look like someone who could be a difference-maker in the AL East race: he shut down the Rays, as Eduardo Encina writes.




SoMnFan -> RE: MLB General Information PT 4 (6/20/2014 9:54:55 AM)

You weren't the only frustrated follower of replay-gate, matt!




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