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Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/13/2020 9:53:17 AM)
Edwards let go as the defensive scapegoat

SoMnFan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/13/2020 9:55:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed Edwards let go as the defensive scapegoat What the? Thought he was a positive.

Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/13/2020 10:00:42 AM)
Well I guess the defense play caller can’t get whacked Leave him a lame duck Please No extension

TJSweens -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/13/2020 10:04:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SoMnFan quote: ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed Edwards let go as the defensive scapegoat What the? Thought he was a positive. Which is a joke because everybody knows that Zim is the real defensive coordinator. Edwards was just a conduit for his will. The secondary had a serious issue with communication and spacing all year long. The transition of coverage was just bad. Time after time the first level back either needed to be a step deeper in the initial or the next level back need to be a step forward. Teams constantly completed passes in between defensive levels.

Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/13/2020 10:10:43 AM)
Edwards probably didn’t covey the boss’ desires well enough while the boss was neutering the offense

TJSweens -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/13/2020 1:09:02 PM)
Biggest thing to change on offense is the middle of the O-line. Bradbury gets some slack for being a rookie at arguably the hardest line position to learn in the NFL. Elf needs to go. I get the the idea that guards in the Vikings blocking scheme need to be athletic and be able to move to the next tier of blockers, but they still need to be stout and strong enough to hold the point of attack in the passing game. Cousins got put in a lot of bad situations this year because Elf consistently just got trucked right off the snap. As a whole, that inside trio couldn't move bodies at all in the run game against the better d-lines. I actually liked our GCG backups in the Chicago game. At least those guys played with a bit of a chip on their shoulders and showed a little bit of nasty. There is a lot more sin to cover up on defense. They need to upgrade DT, at least one corner and the slot defender. If Andrew Pendejo is playing a significant role next year, then the off season will be a failure from a defensive perspective. They also need to fix the spacing and communication in the secondary. Finally, they either need to find a way to use Barr to his abilities or cut bait.

Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 8:08:14 AM)
LSU rolls Moss got in twice QB legend now takes his accuracy to the Bengals Who have less WR talent overall than LSU A number of NFL squads have less

SoMnFan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 8:38:19 AM)
That's what is frightening about these latest college juggernauts They go 4-5 deep in TALENT Would love to see them revive the old college-vs-pros game they used to play when I was a kid. Look up what Rex Kern did to the NFL one year Loved that stuff. Yeah, I know, I know …. men vs boys I don't think so, anymore.

SoMnFan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 8:40:20 AM)
Still hard to believe that Ohio State had 3 of the 4 Heisman candidates in their fold at one time. Liked Burrows until last night The oversaturation of one guy just irritates me after awhile. And he got VERY cocky at the end of that game. Needs a smack down at some point. Everyone does.

Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 8:41:49 AM)
Watching LSU get going and score score score Was a near replay of KC Sunday Titans won 35-32 at Tennessee in regular season Will be entertaining Vrabel has his hands full with Mahomes Reid has his hands full with Henry

Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 8:43:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SoMnFan Still hard to believe that Ohio State had 3 of the 4 Heisman candidates in their fold at one time. Liked Burrows until last night The oversaturation of one guy just irritates me after awhile. And he got VERY cocky at the end of that game. Needs a smack down at some point. Everyone does. Without a flak jacket Burrow doesn’t finish the game Seriously drilled in the ribs on first TD to Moss

SoMnFan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 8:44:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed Watching LSU get going and score score score Was a near replay of KC Sunday Titans won 35-32 at Tennessee in regular season Will be entertaining Vrabel has his hands full with Mahomes Reid has his hands full with Henry Watching Henry stroll around after the win this weekend among the other players It's amazing anyone can tackle that beast There's simply nothing to grab on to He's bigger than almost anyone out there. Can't get your arms around him unless you are huge yourself. KC's weakness is their D, hoping it kills them this weekend.

Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 8:45:28 AM)
So apparently the Vikings also whacked Jerry Gray as well Dbacks coach scapegoat 2 Zimmer has less fall guys now

Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 8:48:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SoMnFan quote: ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed Watching LSU get going and score score score Was a near replay of KC Sunday Titans won 35-32 at Tennessee in regular season Will be entertaining Vrabel has his hands full with Mahomes Reid has his hands full with Henry Watching Henry stroll around after the win this weekend among the other players It's amazing anyone can tackle that beast There's simply nothing to grab on to He's bigger than almost anyone out there. Can't get your arms around him unless you are huge yourself. KC's weakness is their D, hoping it kills them this weekend. Absolutely loved Earl Thomas being shoved aside by Henry TWICE In the same running play. And the jump pass td I can see how he gets dinged But when healthy Yikes

Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 8:52:45 AM)
Rumors already suggested Zimmer junior will be next d coordinator

SoMnFan -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 8:53:35 AM)
I keep trying to imagine the DBs of my youth coming up and trying to tackle a guy like him Little Bobby Bryant or old Paul Krause, sticking their heads into those knees? Oh boy. Might have seen on-field deaths. Oh, but … but …. the old guys were better. Pffffffffft. I always remember my dad having arguments with those blowhards who think the old days were "better" "George Mikan couldn't have played on a HS JV team" OL in those days couldn't run the full 40 yards, much less do it under 5 seconds. Humans have become amazing creatures in the last 50 years. Bigger faster stronger

Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 8:59:45 AM)
Lol Paul Krause duck and dive Or getting a ride for multiple yards by Larry Csonka in the Super Bowl Henry would drag those guys to the end zone Or yeah seriously hurt someone

TJSweens -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 9:00:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SoMnFan I keep trying to imagine the DBs of my youth coming up and trying to tackle a guy like him Little Bobby Bryant or old Paul Krause, sticking their heads into those knees? Oh boy. Might have seen on-field deaths. Oh, but … but …. the old guys were better. Pffffffffft. I always remember my dad having arguments with those blowhards who think the old days were "better" "George Mikan couldn't have played on a HS JV team" OL in those days couldn't run the full 40 yards, much less do it under 5 seconds. Humans have become amazing creatures in the last 50 years. Bigger faster stronger In the early days of the Vikings, if you wanted to play, you had to be able to drink with Norm Van Brocklin. Guys like Bryant, Ersal McBee and Wright were actually pretty good technique tacklers in the Winfield mold. Krause was a grab on and drag you down over the course of 10 yards type of tacker, while Sharockman, Hackbart and Kasulke were pure head hunters.

TJSweens -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 9:06:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed Rumors already suggested Zimmer junior will be next d coordinator What difference does it make? Whoever is named DC will have the title in name only. Zim isn't giving up control of the defense.

Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 9:06:43 AM)
For a long time I was upset over all the times Krause got by passed for the Hall Was basing that in interceptions total He did get in But I wonder how many picks were simply the result of playing centerfield with a great pass rush

Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 9:08:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TJSweens quote: ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed Rumors already suggested Zimmer junior will be next d coordinator What difference does it make? Whoever is named DC will have the title in name only. Zim isn't giving up control of the defense. Right Just save some money and name him that too If it’s the kid would be tougher to make him the scapegoat

Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 9:13:20 AM)
Vikings success back in the day A result of better organization of resources Having a good run of talent Both. When they kept drafting late there were, many more misses than hits The league caught up to them And been stuck in the non stud era since The 98 year was pissed away As was thr Favre season

Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 9:30:42 AM)
Franchise futility Since the 1976 super bowl loss The franchise has been to the conference title game Six Times in 43 years Terrible 1977 1987 1998 2000 2009 2107

TJSweens -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 9:34:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mr. Ed For a long time I was upset over all the times Krause got by passed for the Hall Was basing that in interceptions total He did get in But I wonder how many picks were simply the result of playing centerfield with a great pass rush Playing CF behind a great rush was definitely part of it, but Krause had great instincts. As our D-backs have shown in recent years, it's one thing to be in position to make the play. It's another thing all together to know how to make the play. Krause knew how to make the play. He knew how to time it and he was one of the best at jumping passing lanes.

Mr. Ed -> RE: Vikes talk for Twins Fans (1/14/2020 9:37:41 AM)
The way both overall play the pass Sendejo and Smith should have been linebackers Harris has more of those instincts Sweens mentioned And now he’ll need to get paid as a FA

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